gray Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 doesnt hold weight with me. our defence is useless. the reason we dont concede is because teams go in front of us 1-0, then the KNOW we're not going to score so they sit back and let us panick around them. You go 1-0, 2-1 up against this newcastle team, and you can relax knowing you have won, no need to tire yourself chasing more goals when we have no fight in us. so forget this 'we are sorted apart from we're not scoring', because our defence concedes when it matters. imho tbh etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ticaL Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 What's it now, 5 clean sheets in 8. In that time we've scored 7 and conceded 4. I wouldn't agree with you given the stats, but it's the fact we are playing shite teams and looking even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If anyone thinks that Bramble or Moore are good enough to be in our first team in the medium/long term, they are mental. Our defence is abysmal. We rely on having good 'keepers to carry the appalling defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eyeball_tickler Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 everytime the other team gets a corner or advanced throw in i just assume they will score. but to an outsider, the clean sheet stat looks quite impressive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ticaL Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 everytime the other team gets a corner or advanced throw in i just assume they will score. but to an outsider, the clean sheet stat looks quite impressive Or to the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If anyone thinks that Bramble or Moore are good enough to be in our first team in the medium/long term, they are mental. Our defence is abysmal. We rely on having good 'keepers to carry the appalling defence. Please add Carr, Babyaro and Ramage to that as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Typical Toon, we cant do both in one game, score and we concede, don't concede and we don't score. Its like all defend or all attack, but nowhere near as good as those Keegan days. bluebiggrin.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Our defence is pretty shit, but they have looked much better since Pearson came in. Boro 0-1 Pompey 3-0 Charlton 0-0 Palermo 1-0 Sheff Utd 0-1 Watford 2-2 Man City 0-0 Thats 3 clean sheets out of 6 and only a last minute winner at Boro stopped it being 6. Certain improvement, thought Taylor had a good game on Saturday aswell, best all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I tell you what, that's a very good point about Pearson, Ally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If only we had a top class defence like Liverpool or Spurs, or signed Woodgate & Huth instead of Middlesbrough, this season would have been so different :PMT: imho tbh etc PS It's your opinion that's the theory, not the fact that our goals conceded stats, season after season, are mid-table at worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Agree that our defense is not sorted, but our attack is even worse atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If only we had a top class defence like Liverpool or Spurs, or signed Woodgate & Huth instead of Middlesbrough, this season would have been so different :PMT: imho tbh etc PS It's your opinion that's the theory, not the fact that our goals conceded stats, season after season, are mid-table at worst. Top class defence like Spurs or Liverpool. Liverpool have let in more than us, and King & Dawson made Boumsong & Bramble look like world-beaters at Reading yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Village Idiot Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Imho, Palermo is the only decent team Newcastle has kept a clean sheet against. Keeping a CS or conceding just one against the likes of Boro, ManCity, Charlton, Sheffield, etc... is not a great achievement by any means. So the defence isn't sorted, imho. And I fear Arsenal will see to it being exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Exactly. If we hold Arsenal to one goal, then we can talk about progress. At the moment, new defenders are still top priority. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Exactly. If we hold Arsenal to one goal, then we can talk about progress. At the moment, new defenders are still top priority. We held Arsenal to 1 (or possibly 2) under Bobby but got battered and only poor finishing prevented a rout. Particulary in the Palmero game the Defence looked like it was solid and wouldn't concede. It should be that which determines progress, not simply a scoreline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Exactly. If we hold Arsenal to one goal, then we can talk about progress. At the moment, new defenders are still top priority. We held Arsenal to 1 (or possibly 2) under Bobby but got battered and only poor finishing prevented a rout. Particulary in the Palmero game the Defence looked like it was solid and wouldn't concede. It should be that which determines progress, not simply a scoreline I think that had a lot to do with the choice of back four though, no Carr or Babayaro we played four CB's and we were miles better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Man City could have had a few on Saturday, we kept a clean sheet but were lucky to do so. Our defence and attack have serious problems and nobody should be in doubt of that. We have potential in Ramage and Taylor but thats all, we cannot rely on potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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