Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm nopt saying Lukaku is realistic, but wages will be spread over each year's projected income. We're not writing Lukaku a cheque for 4 years's wages in the summer, out of a big bank account called "The Carroll Money". the thing is though, we are. unless we spend more than 35m on fees and contracts. Eh? How does that follow? The club said that the £35 million would contribute to the wages, signing on and transfers fees of any new players. I'm pretty certain 'the club' never said all that Depends whether or not you believe Pardew speaks on behalf of the club. Be nice if he could like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It's pretty obvious anyway, any money that comes in will contribute to all the club's outgoings. What I mean is that we don't have pay a new player for his entire contract right now out of this season's transfer budget, the sums are much more complicated than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm nopt saying Lukaku is realistic, but wages will be spread over each year's projected income. We're not writing Lukaku a cheque for 4 years's wages in the summer, out of a big bank account called "The Carroll Money". the thing is though, we are. unless we spend more than 35m on fees and contracts. Eh? How does that follow? well there may not be a bank account called carroll money, but if pardew's said the fee we got will have to go towards fees and wages, and we dont spend any more on both. then i would suggest that the money is being spent based on what we brought in rather than projected earnings, in fact, doesnt that sort of tie in with how ashley's been running the club? given the table of spending and the fact that he likes to receive fees in a lump sum rather than installments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in recent times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just don't buy that all our financial dealings are based purely around the £35m we got for Carroll. What if we were planning to spend £10m in the summer before we sold Carroll? Do we now have to spend £45m? The club will be run based on what Mike Ashley decides it can afford this season and for the life of any player's contract. I don't think our activity can just be measured against this magical £35m we got for Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm nopt saying Lukaku is realistic, but wages will be spread over each year's projected income. We're not writing Lukaku a cheque for 4 years's wages in the summer, out of a big bank account called "The Carroll Money". the thing is though, we are. unless we spend more than 35m on fees and contracts. Eh? How does that follow? The club said that the £35 million would contribute to the wages, signing on and transfers fees of any new players. I'm pretty certain 'the club' never said all that You're right, it was Pardew - reported by George Caulkin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm nopt saying Lukaku is realistic, but wages will be spread over each year's projected income. We're not writing Lukaku a cheque for 4 years's wages in the summer, out of a big bank account called "The Carroll Money". the thing is though, we are. unless we spend more than 35m on fees and contracts. Eh? How does that follow? The club said that the £35 million would contribute to the wages, signing on and transfers fees of any new players. That's why I put Lukaku's wages as a lump sum. "contribute" could well be the key phrase in that sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spend every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'm nopt saying Lukaku is realistic, but wages will be spread over each year's projected income. We're not writing Lukaku a cheque for 4 years's wages in the summer, out of a big bank account called "The Carroll Money". the thing is though, we are. unless we spend more than 35m on fees and contracts. Eh? How does that follow? The club said that the £35 million would contribute to the wages, signing on and transfers fees of any new players. That's why I put Lukaku's wages as a lump sum. "contribute" could well be the key phrase in that sentence. Let's hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just don't buy that all our financial dealings are based purely around the £35m we got for Carroll. What if we were planning to spend £10m in the summer before we sold Carroll? Do we now have to spend £45m? The club will be run based on what Mike Ashley decides it can afford this season and for the life of any player's contract. I don't think our activity can just be measured against this magical £35m we got for Carroll. i agree. with regard to your first question, i dont reckon we'll spend any more than 35m, meaning not necessarily that we were planning to spend nothing, but due to circumstances we can probably get away with it, which will be preferable to ashley. it was pardew that said the carroll money will go towards fees and wages, and that he'd have to persuade the owner to 'put it all back into the club'. not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. won't satisfy people on this and other similar internet boards, in real life most people will just keep going to the match 9 months is a long time to stay hot and bothered about carroll for most people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spent every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... wouldn't bother me if the club didn't spend 35mill on transfers in the summer providing we have an appreciably better team and squad come september 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just don't buy that all our financial dealings are based purely around the £35m we got for Carroll. What if we were planning to spend £10m in the summer before we sold Carroll? Do we now have to spend £45m? The club will be run based on what Mike Ashley decides it can afford this season and for the life of any player's contract. I don't think our activity can just be measured against this magical £35m we got for Carroll. Probably because the justification all along, from the manager, club and plenty of people on here was that the money would rebuild the first team. We needed a striker before we sold our best one. Llambias himself has said that we didn't 'need' the money, so why is it now acceptable for it to disappear into general running costs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just don't buy that all our financial dealings are based purely around the £35m we got for Carroll. What if we were planning to spend £10m in the summer before we sold Carroll? Do we now have to spend £45m? The club will be run based on what Mike Ashley decides it can afford this season and for the life of any player's contract. I don't think our activity can just be measured against this magical £35m we got for Carroll. Probably because the justification all along, from the manager, club and plenty of people on here was that the money would rebuild the first team. We needed a striker before we sold our best one. Llambias himself has said that we didn't 'need' the money, so why is it now acceptable for it to disappear into general running costs? the 'didn't need the money' could be taken many ways, one interpretation being we didn't need to sell to survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spent every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... wouldn't bother me if the club didn't spend 35mill on transfers in the summer providing we have an appreciably better team and squad come september 1st. It wouldn't bother me either, but I don't often speak for the majority on here! Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. won't satisfy people on this and other similar internet boards, in real life most people will just keep going to the match 9 months is a long time to stay hot and bothered about carroll for most people True, and good to hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spend every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... for someone who preaches financial restraint you'd do well to get off your highhorse. you're not part of a exclusive club you know, i dont want nufc to go bust either. i just dont like seeing the fans getting taken for mugs by a greedy, stupid individual who has no ties to the club other then the money he invested without thinking about it first. being on the conservative side of the financial discussion doesnt make any of you more astute, it just makes you all more passive imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just don't buy that all our financial dealings are based purely around the £35m we got for Carroll. What if we were planning to spend £10m in the summer before we sold Carroll? Do we now have to spend £45m? The club will be run based on what Mike Ashley decides it can afford this season and for the life of any player's contract. I don't think our activity can just be measured against this magical £35m we got for Carroll. By the way, it's widely reported we received £30 million cash, upfront from Liverpool. In my opinion, all of this money should be spent this summer at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spend every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... for someone who preaches financial restraint you'd do well to get off your highhorse. you're not part of a exclusive club you know, i dont want nufc to go bust either. i just dont like seeing the fans getting taken for mugs by a greedy, stupid individual who has no ties to the club other then the money he invested without thinking about it first. being on the conservative side of the financial discussion doesnt make any of you more astute, it just makes you all more passive imo one thing ashley can't be accused of in relation to his dealings re NUFC is greedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spend every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... for someone who preaches financial restraint you'd do well to get off your highhorse. you're not part of a exclusive club you know, i dont want nufc to go bust either. i just dont like seeing the fans getting taken for mugs by a greedy, stupid individual who has no ties to the club other then the money he invested without thinking about it first. being on the conservative side of the financial discussion doesnt make any of you more astute, it just makes you all more passive imo That was a bit unnecessary :-[ I'm just arguing what I think is right, just like everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 i like all the "preaching financial restraint" people me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I just don't buy that all our financial dealings are based purely around the £35m we got for Carroll. What if we were planning to spend £10m in the summer before we sold Carroll? Do we now have to spend £45m? The club will be run based on what Mike Ashley decides it can afford this season and for the life of any player's contract. I don't think our activity can just be measured against this magical £35m we got for Carroll. By the way, it's widely reported we received £30 million cash, upfront from Liverpool. In my opinion, all of this money should be spent this summer at the very least. purely on transfer fees, why ? what if we can afford the transfer fees but each player wants 80kpw ? agreed it would be nice if spent well but the idea of "should" smacks of spending for spendings sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 i like all the "preaching financial restraint" people me like hardly financial restraint, more so that i don't own a new ferrari cos i can't afford one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 i like all the "preaching financial restraint" people me like hardly financial restraint, more so that i don't own a new ferrari cos i can't afford one. sorry, i put that down wrong - i meant i 'like' the people who spout the "preaching financial restraint", in terms of they talk a load of shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think loans with the option to buy, in return times, has brought about the best value for money. Would hate to see that cash spunked against the wall on someone who turns out to be Torres-esque How could that possibly happen when we have such an amazing scout? Anyway, if we don't spend every penny of the £35m then the club will be ripped to shreds. Loans with options to buy won't satisfy people this summer. Calculators at the ready... for someone who preaches financial restraint you'd do well to get off your highhorse. you're not part of a exclusive club you know, i dont want nufc to go bust either. i just dont like seeing the fans getting taken for mugs by a greedy, stupid individual who has no ties to the club other then the money he invested without thinking about it first. being on the conservative side of the financial discussion doesnt make any of you more astute, it just makes you all more passive imo That was a bit unnecessary :-[ I'm just arguing what I think is right, just like everyone else. i dont mean any offence mate, at all. i actually think you're good crack i just resent the idea that i'm penny counting by demanding that we be competitive to a level that we deserve as a club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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