Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Knowing our luck he'd avoid a booking at Chelsea then be booked against West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 We know how vital he is to the team and if we end up struggling next season, every point counts. Lets not do anything silly and end up regretting it. It mightn't be 100% fair to the travelling fans, but its the smart thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I would rest Play Barton in the middle and give ranger/ raylor a run on the right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Knowing our luck he'd avoid a booking at Chelsea then be booked against West Brom. Aye wouldnt surprise me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I would rest Play Barton in the middle and give ranger/ raylor a run on the right Yep. Shola-Ranger, Jonas-Nolan-Barton-Raylor for last two games with Fergie coming on for some gametime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? If a player we want to sign say no because we ended at 12th place with 2 points up to 9th, he can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Does it send the right message to the rest of the squad though? There's been players equally deserving of a break for all the efforts they've put in, the likes of Coloccini, Enrique, Nolan, Barton...can't see them being exactly chuffed if Tiote gets a few extra weeks off just because of how many bookings he's picked up. I know a few have been harsh, but harsh or not, a lot have been silly & wreckless tackles too, 14 is ridiculous in 30 odd games. i think the others you mentioned would understand under the circumstances. fwiw didn't think todays booking was worthy of yellow but will probably be proved wrong on motd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? Realistically how likely is it? I know Stoke are fucked(Citeh & Arsenal) but the rest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Does it send the right message to the rest of the squad though? There's been players equally deserving of a break for all the efforts they've put in, the likes of Coloccini, Enrique, Nolan, Barton...can't see them being exactly chuffed if Tiote gets a few extra weeks off just because of how many bookings he's picked up. I know a few have been harsh, but harsh or not, a lot have been silly & wreckless tackles too, 14 is ridiculous in 30 odd games. i think the others you mentioned would understand under the circumstances. fwiw didn't think todays booking was worthy of yellow but will probably be proved wrong on motd. It wasnt but MOTD will show you sometime else to say thank god Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? If a player we want to sign say no because we ended at 12th place with 2 points up to 9th, he can f*** off. Ok then, as a fan in a few years time, how good will it be to look back at a first season back in the Premier League having finished top half in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? If a player we want to sign say no because we ended at 12th place with 2 points up to 9th, he can f*** off. Ok then, as a fan in a few years time, how good will it be to look back at a first season back in the Premier League having finished top half in the league? I dont care tbh. Next season are more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? If a player we want to sign say no because we ended at 12th place with 2 points up to 9th, he can f*** off. Ok then, as a fan in a few years time, how good will it be to look back at a first season back in the Premier League having finished top half in the league? I dont care tbh. Next season are more important. This for me is massive. Its how we move on as opposed to how we fare coming back up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He's not getting a break. We're preventing him getting himself suspended. He'll still be training and possibly even on the bench, just won't be picked. If Pardew has any sense that is. It's only the same as not risking someone who has a niggling injury. The next two games are important to us as fans, but ultimately meaningless at this stage. The first three matches of next season are anything but. Totally agree, we all want to think we can get 4 points or more from the last two games but in reality losing him for the first three of next year isnt worth the hassle. He misses 2 games this season where we have two games to finish top 10, or he misses 2-3 games where we have the whole season to go, where the aim will be pretty much the same. I say play him and go all out for it. If he gets booked at Chelsea its 1 plus two next year, we have a good chance without him at home to WBA so why waste the extra games when it could mean more? By the same token, first 2 games next year we'll have Ben Arfa & Gosling fit, probably a proper centre-forward in the team, and missing Tiote won't be as big a deal as it is now. True but why bother? We are safe, should get 11th or more so its worth it. How much better will it look though in the summer trying to attract players, etc. if we've finished 8th or 9th? If a player we want to sign say no because we ended at 12th place with 2 points up to 9th, he can f*** off. Ok then, as a fan in a few years time, how good will it be to look back at a first season back in the Premier League having finished top half in the league? I dont care tbh. Next season are more important. Live for the moment man. If you can't look forward to try and finish top half of the Premier League when 17th was most people's objectives then we might as well give up. We'll not be going down next season so try and enjoy the rest, and for me that includes seeing Tiote up against Essien seeing how we get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'd rest him against Chelsea but gamble on him against Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'd rest him against Chelsea but gamble on him against Brom. If anything at all I'd be the other way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'd rest him against Chelsea but gamble on him against Brom. If anything at all I'd be the other way around. The best we can hope for against Chelsea is scrapping a point (and that's being very optimistic), 3 are achievable against West Brom. Save our best team for the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Is being a supporter not about seeing our team against the best though? I'd love to see Tiote v Essien next week that could be an immense battle and would be proud as fuck seeing him come out on top. I don't want to miss out on that because we're worried he's going to get booked and miss a few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Given the season Essien's had, I think that battle's a forgone conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I would rest Play Barton in the middle and give ranger/ raylor a run on the right Yep. Shola-Ranger, Jonas-Nolan-Barton-Raylor for last two games with Fergie coming on for some gametime. Meanwhile, back in reality... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I would rest Play Barton in the middle and give ranger/ raylor a run on the right Yep. Shola-Ranger, Jonas-Nolan-Barton-Raylor for last two games with Fergie coming on for some gametime. Meanwhile, back in reality... Obviously but it makes sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 He shouldn't play another game this season, we're safe and hopefully need him for the first three games of next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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