Sifu Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 OMG is this a joke right people lets have a look at Charlton - Relegated West Ham - Would've been relegated if he hadn't have been sacked. Souphamtpon - League one f*** off. Newcastle - Wow I'll just use Hughtons team and win four matches but lose against Stevanage = Better than Hughton who has won more trophies than Pardew in his career. This is stupid folks really stupid, please wake up next year this is going to be embarrising. I think you're wrong. He did it very well the first season. (promotion). In the second he achieved a FA-cup final which they were unlucky not to win and qualified for Europe . The third season however, Ashton was also ruled KO. He was in his prime form. It would have been the same as removing either Colo or Titoe from our team. As a manager for a newly promoted team, you're always sensitive for injuries on key players. Some players are irreplaceable, period. As Pardew himself pointed out, without Ashton's injury he probably would have kept the job. And he's right. Too bad that boards often do not consider the effect of injuries on important players. And this is in particular important for newly promoted/small teams. In Soton he was treated like s***, according to some rapports. But he should not have poked Mr. Johnson into "reserved holes", of course. He was not sacked due to lack of results, but because Soton wished a more humble and down to earth manager. Charlton was already a sinking ship when he took over. He had no money to use at all. Every player that has trained under Pardew say he's a very skilled manager, and that he's good with people. His critics has pointed out that he can probably sound arrogant and uses too much authority because he knows he's right. The point is that almost every person learns from his mistakes. It's how we become better humans and function better in our jobs. And this goes for Pardew too. He's now done his mistakes, he will never do what he did in Soton again. And that's why he will not be that arrogant in NUFC. He's actually been quite humble in his approach to this job. In particular his respect for CH's work has been impressive. In sum MA has appointed a highly motivated, skilled manager, that is interested in rectifying previous errors. He had bloody Tevez and Mascherno, it's like removing Colo for Puyol and Tiote for Xabi Alonso Players he didn't want and couldn't fit into his system. Come on they're both world class, you make the system fit around them. Indeed they are but I remember at the time, West Ham were doing alright. However, having two players being pretty much forced on you at the last minute doesn't do a manager any favours (especially when you're under pressure to start them in almost every game). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well then sit on your hands and criticise him in the Summer. Far too many look for problems where there aren't any and far too many point the finger before someone has even had a chance to prove themselves - it's f***ing pathetic. People slate Ashley and Pardew on here as if this Summer has already come and gone. It's weird that we're only ever allowed to judge on our next transfer window and only at the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well then sit on your hands and criticise him in the Summer. Far too many look for problems where there aren't any and far too many point the finger before someone has even had a chance to prove themselves - it's f***ing pathetic. People slate Ashley and Pardew on here as if this Summer has already come and gone. It's weird that we're only ever allowed to judge on our next transfer window and only at the end of it. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Indeed they are but I remember at the time, West Ham were doing alright. However, having two players being pretty much forced on you at the last minute doesn't do a manager any favours (especially when you're under pressure to start them in almost every game). At the start of the season when Tevez and Mascherno arrived, West Ham had their worst run of results in over half a century. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Well then sit on your hands and criticise him in the Summer. Far too many look for problems where there aren't any and far too many point the finger before someone has even had a chance to prove themselves - it's f***ing pathetic. People slate Ashley and Pardew on here as if this Summer has already come and gone. It's weird that we're only ever allowed to judge on our next transfer window and only at the end of it. What? He said: It's weird that we're only ever allowed to judge on our next transfer window and only at the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What's with the influx of incredibly shite posters? Seriously, man, Ethi opened the floodgates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What? I'm guessing that by saying "criticise him in the Summer" you're meaning after the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 OMG is this a joke right people lets have a look at Charlton - Relegated West Ham - Would've been relegated if he hadn't have been sacked. Souphamtpon - League one f*** off. Newcastle - Wow I'll just use Hughtons team and win four matches but lose against Stevanage = Better than Hughton who has won more trophies than Pardew in his career. This is stupid folks really stupid, please wake up next year this is going to be embarrising. I think you're wrong. He did it very well the first season. (promotion). In the second he achieved a FA-cup final which they were unlucky not to win and qualified for Europe . The third season however, Ashton was also ruled KO. He was in his prime form. It would have been the same as removing either Colo or Titoe from our team. As a manager for a newly promoted team, you're always sensitive for injuries on key players. Some players are irreplaceable, period. As Pardew himself pointed out, without Ashton's injury he probably would have kept the job. And he's right. Too bad that boards often do not consider the effect of injuries on important players. And this is in particular important for newly promoted/small teams. In Soton he was treated like s***, according to some rapports. But he should not have poked Mr. Johnson into "reserved holes", of course. He was not sacked due to lack of results, but because Soton wished a more humble and down to earth manager. Charlton was already a sinking ship when he took over. He had no money to use at all. Every player that has trained under Pardew say he's a very skilled manager, and that he's good with people. His critics has pointed out that he can probably sound arrogant and uses too much authority because he knows he's right. The point is that almost every person learns from his mistakes. It's how we become better humans and function better in our jobs. And this goes for Pardew too. He's now done his mistakes, he will never do what he did in Soton again. And that's why he will not be that arrogant in NUFC. He's actually been quite humble in his approach to this job. In particular his respect for CH's work has been impressive. In sum MA has appointed a highly motivated, skilled manager, that is interested in rectifying previous errors. He had bloody Tevez and Mascherno, it's like removing Colo for Puyol and Tiote for Xabi Alonso Players he didn't want and couldn't fit into his system. Come on they're both world class, you make the system fit around them. Neither were world class back then. Mascherano isn't even world class right now. I'd rather have Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What's with the influx of incredibly shite posters? Seriously, man, Ethi opened the floodgates. I don't look so stupid now for once on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I don't look so stupid now for once on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 OMG is this a joke right people lets have a look at Charlton - Relegated West Ham - Would've been relegated if he hadn't have been sacked. Souphamtpon - League one fuck off. Newcastle - Wow I'll just use Hughtons team and win four matches but lose against Stevanage = Better than Hughton who has won more trophies than Pardew in his career. This is stupid folks really stupid, please wake up next year this is going to be embarrising. Are you EthiGeordie in disguise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 OMG is this a joke right people lets have a look at Charlton - Relegated West Ham - Would've been relegated if he hadn't have been sacked. Souphamtpon - League one f*** off. Newcastle - Wow I'll just use Hughtons team and win four matches but lose against Stevanage = Better than Hughton who has won more trophies than Pardew in his career. This is stupid folks really stupid, please wake up next year this is going to be embarrising. Are you EthiGeordie in disguise? Nope just at one point Tdeans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 This thread the last few pages has been great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 OMG is this a joke right people lets have a look at Charlton - Relegated West Ham - Would've been relegated if he hadn't have been sacked. Souphamtpon - League one f*** off. Newcastle - Wow I'll just use Hughtons team and win four matches but lose against Stevanage = Better than Hughton who has won more trophies than Pardew in his career. This is stupid folks really stupid, please wake up next year this is going to be embarrising. Are you EthiGeordie in disguise? Nope just at one point Tdeans Aye, sorry, that was a bit unfair to EthiGeordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What? I'm guessing that by saying "criticise him in the Summer" you're meaning after the transfer window. Yes. When else do you criticise someone's transfer dealings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Yes. When else do you criticise someone's transfer dealings? Now if you think the last one wasn't up to scratch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Yes. When else do you criticise someone's transfer dealings? Now if you think the last one wasn't up to scratch. I don't. But I don't blame him for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I don't. But I don't blame him for it. He can't lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I don't. But I don't blame him for it. He can't lose. With some, he arguably can't win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 tdeans :lol: Deary me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What's with the influx of incredibly s**** posters? Seriously, man, Ethi opened the floodgates. I don't look so stupid now for once on here. neesy you look like an Oxford graduate compared to this guy. We've lost 3 league games in almost 3 months ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 With some, he arguably can't win. I was actually sticking up for him before the game because not everything he does is wrong. I couldn’t defend his decision to bring out the same front 2 which had been abysmal in the first half and I couldn't defend bringing on Taylor for Jonas. I praised him for the 2nd half performance against Arsenal but not the first half of the same game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 What's with the influx of incredibly s**** posters? Seriously, man, Ethi opened the floodgates. I don't look so stupid now for once on here. neesy you look like an Oxford graduate compared to this guy. We've lost 3 league games in almost 3 months ffs. What a scathing compliment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 neesy you look like an Oxford graduate compared to this guy. We've lost 3 league games in almost 3 months ffs. How many have we won in 3 months? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 neesy you look like an Oxford graduate compared to this guy. We've lost 3 league games in almost 3 months ffs. How many have we won in 3 months? 4 with 5 draws. With 2 of those against teams occupying the top four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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