Taylor Swift Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Three of those four were against the best sides in the league, and he was then dropped when playing against a newly promoted side away from home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 FWIW, i don't think Pardew is that stubborn and will probably drop Obertan sooner or later if the performances keep up. He's done it before by dropping Williamson. Have you not heard of Tevez and Mascherano? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 It's astounding the lack of patience shown to Ben Arfa considering that he's had only 5 games in the Premiership in his career and has just returned from a year-long injury. You would think that someone of his quality would be given a lot more chances to settle into a new league. I'm pretty ashamed of it to be honest. How anyone can claim that Sammy's a better option as it stands I honestly don't know, and I like Sammy. Ben Arfa was not entirely ineffective in the last three games. At City he laid a chance on a plate for Ba through clever play and hit the post himself, he won us a penalty at Old Trafford! I like Sammy but the contributions are nowhere near comparable. Pardew needs to take a long hard look at himself over this not playing HBA on the wings thing because if the alternative is Obertan things aren't looking great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Listen, for the record I'd probably start Ben Arfa 8 times out of 10, simply because Obertan is crap. With Ba, he HAS to start regardless. There's nobody that can replace what he gives us or even come close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 [Pardew have a daugther because ben arfa is known for same reason that giggs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Listen, for the record I'd probably start Ben Arfa 8 times out of 10, simply because Obertan is crap. With Ba, he HAS to start regardless. There's nobody that can replace what he gives us or even come close. Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 One of three things has happened. Pardew's decided Ben Arfa isn't a winger. Ben Arfa's decided he's not a winger. Neither of the above but Pardew thinks Obertan offers more to the team. Whichever one it is it's worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 One of three things has happened. Pardew's decided Ben Arfa isn't a winger. Ben Arfa's decided he's not a winger. Neither of the above but Pardew thinks Obertan offers more to the team. Whichever one it is it's worrying. Nice and conscise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 One of three things has happened. Pardew's decided Ben Arfa isn't a winger. Ben Arfa's decided he's not a winger. Neither of the above but Pardew thinks Obertan offers more to the team. Whichever one it is it's worrying. Ben Arfa's decided he's not a winger. It is a joke ben arfa wants play on the wing in french team and ben arfa hates stay on the bench; The reality pardew is a coach afraid with the player genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 And again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krybel Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 What the f*** is he saying here at 1.58? http://www.skysports.com/skysportsnews/video/0,,13987_7369500,00.html "... maybe Davide Santon well have to be carefull with, that will be a bonus." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Punch drunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benarfanufc10 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 And again. pardew is a whore he want dominate the player but ben arfa not listen anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 What the f*** is he saying here at 1.58? http://www.skysports.com/skysportsnews/video/0,,13987_7369500,00.html "... maybe Davide Santon well have to be carefull with, that will be a bonus." He's just missing some brackets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 What the f*** is he saying here at 1.58? http://www.skysports.com/skysportsnews/video/0,,13987_7369500,00.html "... maybe Davide Santon well have to be carefull with, that will be a bonus." he said about coming through the game unscathed, then mentions maybe a slight problem for santon which we need to be careful with, then says it will be a bonus as in a bonus if we havn't picked up anymore serious injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Pardew's insistence on not playing youngsters and playing his 'guys' is becoming more and more frustrating. Which youngsters would you have played? Abeid > Smith. An actual centre back (Kadar) > Perch. Santon > Raylor (before this game obviously). Same Kadar that was actually a full back when he joined but played centre half due to injurys/suspensions/lack of CB's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Fact remains that HBA has only played one great game for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Pardew's insistence on not playing youngsters and playing his 'guys' is becoming more and more frustrating. Which youngsters would you have played? Abeid > Smith. An actual centre back (Kadar) > Perch. Santon > Raylor (before this game obviously). Same Kadar that was actually a full back when he joined but played centre half due to injurys/suspensions/lack of CB's? Fairly sure that's bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Michael vs Michael! Go on Michael. Michael. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I think he was a LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 "I would play in the centre of the defence. I admit this (central) is my favourite place on the pitch." Could still be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 He was a LB come CB who played on the RB once or twice due to injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Michael vs Michael! Go on Michael. Michael. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Michael lost. Take that Michael, you fucking tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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