Newcastle 1 - 3 Man City - 26/12/2010 - Post-Match Reaction From Page 15

[ohmelads]

The better team lost but we only have ourselves to blame by gifting chances in the first 5 minutes.

 

I can't believe some people are trying to blame Steven Taylor because it's nowt to do with him. The first goal is entirely Krul's fault, the second was Tiote. Both Taylor and Coloccini should have got goal side of Tevez instead of ballwatching, but Coloccini was in the better position to make the block. The third goal was a bloody double deflection.

 

We knew we'd concede more goals this month or so because we're playing better teams. Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City and Spurs.

 

We have the team spirit and the quality to finish midtable but we're in a precarious position because we have no squad depth. Our backup players will struggle if called upon - we saw that against West Brom. Injuries will decide our fate unless Ashley takes action in January to bolster the squad.

[leffe186]

Still can't believe how jammy their third goal was.  c***s.

 

I was absolutely raging at how flukey they'd been after everything.

 

I feel like I say that after every bloody City match (Fulham excepted). Of course I'm wildly biased, but I genuinely feel that I've never seen a team get more breaks before.

[Errol82]

From the Suns match report: "Roberto Mancini's midfield was superb with Nigel de Jong and James Milner outstanding. "

 

I've probably seen a different match over here in Norway then, because i thought Milner was poor, and certainly not outstanding...

[Doug]

Some journos must have their stories written before the games are even played then just fit the scoreline into it afterwards.

[womblemaster]

I thought we made city look like title winners today. We were very ave all over the pitch.

 

def, midfield, attk, ave ave ave.

 

NO real cutting edge.

 

In an ideal game, he would have subbed nolan, and brought on a real striker.....nolan was off form, and carrolls shooting was rough as a dog.

 

I couldnt tell if routledge was playing or not, imo he was anonymous.  Didnt notice him till he came off.

 

overall we still look poor in attk.  we still got the same problem, we are playing for headers, with ineffective crossers.  only plan B is free kicks, we have nowt else in the locker. NO skill players to dribble intot he box.  Hatem cant come back soon enough really.

 

MOre ave performances to come for 6 weeks....

[Guest]

For those calling for Forster after this game, didn't he make a massive balls up pretty much costing them the Old Firm game in the one game against half decent opposition he's played against? I'd stick with Krul.

[merlin]

For those calling for Forster after this game, didn't he make a massive balls up pretty much costing them the Old Firm game in the one game against half decent opposition he's played against? I'd stick with Krul.

 

How many errors has Krul got away with this season ? And how many times has Forster saved his respective teams during the past year or so ?

 

I don't think Norwich fans - as one example - would agree with your view...incidentally, how many times have YOU seen Forster play ? That's why we need to assess him in the PL .

 

I am unconvinced by Krul this season and hope Harper is soon back in goal.

[Guest]

I've seen him once for Norwich where a poor kick lead to a goal and the Old Firm game where he did the same again. Maybe he's just been unlucky and I just happened to see his two mistakes.

[Ronaldo]

I thought we made city look like title winners today. We were very ave all over the pitch.

 

def, midfield, attk, ave ave ave.

 

NO real cutting edge.

 

In an ideal game, he would have subbed nolan, and brought on a real striker.....nolan was off form, and carrolls shooting was rough as a dog.

 

I couldnt tell if routledge was playing or not, imo he was anonymous.  Didnt notice him till he came off.

 

overall we still look poor in attk.  we still got the same problem, we are playing for headers, with ineffective crossers.  only plan B is free kicks, we have nowt else in the locker. NO skill players to dribble intot he box.  Hatem cant come back soon enough really.

 

MOre ave performances to come for 6 weeks....

 

Absolutely incredible. This idiot is far worse than the journos.

[Guest neesy111]

I thought we made city look like title winners today. We were very ave all over the pitch.

 

def, midfield, attk, ave ave ave.

 

NO real cutting edge.

 

In an ideal game, he would have subbed nolan, and brought on a real striker.....nolan was off form, and carrolls shooting was rough as a dog.

 

I couldnt tell if routledge was playing or not, imo he was anonymous.  Didnt notice him till he came off.

 

overall we still look poor in attk.  we still got the same problem, we are playing for headers, with ineffective crossers.  only plan B is free kicks, we have nowt else in the locker. NO skill players to dribble intot he box.  Hatem cant come back soon enough really.

 

MOre ave performances to come for 6 weeks....

 

Don't know what game you were watching, probably one of the idiots next to me at the match complaining all game.  Routledge was one of best players in the game.

[Colos Curls]

I feel quite sorry for Wayne as I was quite pleased with his input into the game, his crossing was a little bit better aswell, less said about Gutierrez this time the better.

 

We need fresh faces all around the pitch so people like Gutierrez can be dropped and give them the kick up the arse they need, no players place should be guaranteed.

[Guest andrew]

I thought we made city look like title winners today. We were very ave all over the pitch.

 

def, midfield, attk, ave ave ave.

 

NO real cutting edge.

 

In an ideal game, he would have subbed nolan, and brought on a real striker.....nolan was off form, and carrolls shooting was rough as a dog.

 

I couldnt tell if routledge was playing or not, imo he was anonymous.  Didnt notice him till he came off.

 

overall we still look poor in attk.  we still got the same problem, we are playing for headers, with ineffective crossers.  only plan B is free kicks, we have nowt else in the locker. NO skill players to dribble intot he box.  Hatem cant come back soon enough really.

 

MOre ave performances to come for 6 weeks....

 

Jesus. Routledge was one of our best players, impressed by him. Far better than jonas, who has been piss poor for months

[9]

just seen this on opta, Carrol attempted 9 shots (excl blocked) vs city, no plays has attempted that many since 06/07 season

[Dr Venkman]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

[JH]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

[Dr Venkman]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

[JH]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

[Dr Venkman]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

 

so you'd boo if we played badly and got a decent result then?

 

booing a draw against anyone is drastically missing the bigger picture when we've just been promoted and we're 7th in the league, but this is just re-hashing an old argument that we'll never see eye to eye on i reckon.

 

i agree the ashley chants wont achieve anything, but the ultimate pathetic act is giving the bloke your money in the first place.

[Benwell Lad]

It was our "group of lads" versus a team of world class players, and while we pushed them hard and statistics show we dominated over 90 minutes, gifting such a side a two goal lead makes it an impossible task as the original game plan is tossed in the bin.

Decent performances pretty much all round, special mention for Routledge who probably had his best PL outing for us, his substitution had nothing to do with his performance.

 

Finally must say I absolutely despise their football club, their plastic fans and what they have done to football propped up by dubious wealth. Tevez' behaviour and tantrums sum them up and  I hope the Arab cock sucking bastads fall from the artificial height they have climbed to back to the insignificance they naturally belong to. 

[Fatwax]

I thought they looked poor yesterday and are relying massively on Tevez. I doubt they would have scored if he wasn't playing yesterday, he scored two and assisted the first.

 

On the other hand, we rely massively on Carroll. Their team just has more quality throughout and never had to get out of 3rd gear since they'd shut up shop after 5 minutes.

[JH]

It's amazing. Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields. The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation.

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

 

so you'd boo if we played badly and got a decent result then?

 

booing a draw against anyone is drastically missing the bigger picture when we've just been promoted and we're 7th in the league, but this is just re-hashing an old argument that we'll never see eye to eye on i reckon.

 

i agree the ashley chants wont achieve anything, but the ultimate pathetic act is giving the bloke your money in the first place.

 

No I wouldn't boo after a decent result/poor performance, but that's the point - I don't think it was a decent enough result. They were there for the taking and we failed to grab it with both hands, and West Ham showed yesterday just how poor Fulham are when pushed.

 

But aye, it's an old argument and completely irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in carrying it on.

 

That's the point I was trying to make with the original post that you quoted - we're stuck in a hard place here. People buying tickets for the match, buying replica shirts etc. aren't necessarily doing so to put money in Ashley's pockets. It's our aim to support the team and the club (otherwise we wouldn't be supporters), if we go out of our way to stop putting money in Ashley's pocket, we'll start harming the team be it through support in the stands, or money into the coffers. Ashley is stubborn, and will probably hold on a lot longer than the club could cling on for.

 

If we put our hands in our pockets, we hand it to Ashley. If we don't, we starve the club. It's a tough one.

[Dr Venkman]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

 

so you'd boo if we played badly and got a decent result then?

 

booing a draw against anyone is drastically missing the bigger picture when we've just been promoted and we're 7th in the league, but this is just re-hashing an old argument that we'll never see eye to eye on i reckon.

 

i agree the ashley chants wont achieve anything, but the ultimate pathetic act is giving the bloke your money in the first place.

 

No I wouldn't boo after a decent result/poor performance, but that's the point - I don't think it was a decent enough result. They were there for the taking and we failed to grab it with both hands, and West Ham showed yesterday just how poor Fulham are when pushed.

 

But aye, it's an old argument and completely irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in carrying it on.

 

That's the point I was trying to make with the original post that you quoted - we're stuck in a hard place here. People buying tickets for the match, buying replica shirts etc. aren't necessarily doing so to put money in Ashley's pockets. It's our aim to support the team and the club (otherwise we wouldn't be supporters), if we go out of our way to stop putting money in Ashley's pocket, we'll start harming the team be it through support in the stands, or money into the coffers. Ashley is stubborn, and will probably hold on a lot longer than the club could cling on for.

 

If we put our hands in our pockets, we hand it to Ashley. If we don't, we starve the club. It's a tough one.

 

it'd be interesting to hear someone with decent knowledge of finances comment on how starving the club of cash would affect it, and ashley in turn. i happen to think that if the club was losing money weekly, on massive scale that he'd cut his losses.

[JH]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

 

so you'd boo if we played badly and got a decent result then?

 

booing a draw against anyone is drastically missing the bigger picture when we've just been promoted and we're 7th in the league, but this is just re-hashing an old argument that we'll never see eye to eye on i reckon.

 

i agree the ashley chants wont achieve anything, but the ultimate pathetic act is giving the bloke your money in the first place.

 

No I wouldn't boo after a decent result/poor performance, but that's the point - I don't think it was a decent enough result. They were there for the taking and we failed to grab it with both hands, and West Ham showed yesterday just how poor Fulham are when pushed.

 

But aye, it's an old argument and completely irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in carrying it on.

 

That's the point I was trying to make with the original post that you quoted - we're stuck in a hard place here. People buying tickets for the match, buying replica shirts etc. aren't necessarily doing so to put money in Ashley's pockets. It's our aim to support the team and the club (otherwise we wouldn't be supporters), if we go out of our way to stop putting money in Ashley's pocket, we'll start harming the team be it through support in the stands, or money into the coffers. Ashley is stubborn, and will probably hold on a lot longer than the club could cling on for.

 

If we put our hands in our pockets, we hand it to Ashley. If we don't, we starve the club. It's a tough one.

 

it'd be interesting to hear someone with decent knowledge of finances comment on how starving the club of cash would affect it, and ashley in turn. i happen to think that if the club was losing money weekly, on massive scale that he'd cut his losses.

 

Unfortunately if that was the case, he'd have jump shipped after relegation.

[Dr Venkman]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

 

so you'd boo if we played badly and got a decent result then?

 

booing a draw against anyone is drastically missing the bigger picture when we've just been promoted and we're 7th in the league, but this is just re-hashing an old argument that we'll never see eye to eye on i reckon.

 

i agree the ashley chants wont achieve anything, but the ultimate pathetic act is giving the bloke your money in the first place.

 

No I wouldn't boo after a decent result/poor performance, but that's the point - I don't think it was a decent enough result. They were there for the taking and we failed to grab it with both hands, and West Ham showed yesterday just how poor Fulham are when pushed.

 

But aye, it's an old argument and completely irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in carrying it on.

 

That's the point I was trying to make with the original post that you quoted - we're stuck in a hard place here. People buying tickets for the match, buying replica shirts etc. aren't necessarily doing so to put money in Ashley's pockets. It's our aim to support the team and the club (otherwise we wouldn't be supporters), if we go out of our way to stop putting money in Ashley's pocket, we'll start harming the team be it through support in the stands, or money into the coffers. Ashley is stubborn, and will probably hold on a lot longer than the club could cling on for.

 

If we put our hands in our pockets, we hand it to Ashley. If we don't, we starve the club. It's a tough one.

 

it'd be interesting to hear someone with decent knowledge of finances comment on how starving the club of cash would affect it, and ashley in turn. i happen to think that if the club was losing money weekly, on massive scale that he'd cut his losses.

 

Unfortunately if that was the case, he'd have jump shipped after relegation.

 

not when he can still rely on 40k plus turning up every week?

[JH]

It's amazing.  Ashley could round up thousands of Geordies, feed them a handful of old rice a day, and toss them into the Killing Fields.  The bedsheet brigade would appear for a game or two before everything dies down into a state of resignation. 

 

This is why there were only three slave revolts in the history of Rome.

 

What are your proposals then?

 

Not to support the team, obviously.

 

coming from someone that advocates booing based on results and not effort or performances. the mind boggles.

 

Don't remember ever saying that like.

 

oh come on, your comments in the Fulham match thread were very much in that vain. you can't be a soopafan who supports through thick and thin AND try and justify your booing a draw of a newly promoted team sitting in 7th. well you can if you want but you don't have much credibility.

 

It wasn't result based, it was performance based. We weren't good enough, and West Ham's performance against Fulham yesterday highlighted exactly that - it shattered the idea on this forum that Fulham were this great team that we handled well - they were there for the taking and we didn't want it enough.

 

As far the whole booing thing, that's after the match. Before or after the match, you can say/do/protest whatever you want, but from the 1st minute to the last, support the team rather than these pathetic Ashley chants.

 

so you'd boo if we played badly and got a decent result then?

 

booing a draw against anyone is drastically missing the bigger picture when we've just been promoted and we're 7th in the league, but this is just re-hashing an old argument that we'll never see eye to eye on i reckon.

 

i agree the ashley chants wont achieve anything, but the ultimate pathetic act is giving the bloke your money in the first place.

 

No I wouldn't boo after a decent result/poor performance, but that's the point - I don't think it was a decent enough result. They were there for the taking and we failed to grab it with both hands, and West Ham showed yesterday just how poor Fulham are when pushed.

 

But aye, it's an old argument and completely irrelevant to this thread, so there's no point in carrying it on.

 

That's the point I was trying to make with the original post that you quoted - we're stuck in a hard place here. People buying tickets for the match, buying replica shirts etc. aren't necessarily doing so to put money in Ashley's pockets. It's our aim to support the team and the club (otherwise we wouldn't be supporters), if we go out of our way to stop putting money in Ashley's pocket, we'll start harming the team be it through support in the stands, or money into the coffers. Ashley is stubborn, and will probably hold on a lot longer than the club could cling on for.

 

If we put our hands in our pockets, we hand it to Ashley. If we don't, we starve the club. It's a tough one.

 

it'd be interesting to hear someone with decent knowledge of finances comment on how starving the club of cash would affect it, and ashley in turn. i happen to think that if the club was losing money weekly, on massive scale that he'd cut his losses.

 

Unfortunately if that was the case, he'd have jump shipped after relegation.

 

not when he can still rely on 40k plus turning up every week?

 

But I imagine we were making massive losses considering the revenue difference between Championship and Premier League - surely more loss than losing a couple of seats and burger sales every week?