David Icke - Son of God Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something. Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored. Well it's clearly not f***ing working Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim. This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that. Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him? http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/big-toon-survey-alan-pardew-6508505 Very happy (33.4%); Content (48.4%); Content but waiting for results to improve (7.5%); Unhappy (5.9%); Time for change (4.7%). I'm aware of the poll Dave. My point was more the fact it's a open poll which anyone can vote in, even Sunderland fans. Congratulations, in a thread where we've got supporters claiming we've leaked details of us rejecting a bid because we really want £8-10m less for a player than he has been publicly valued suggestion that there is a Mackem-led conspiracy to paint us as satisfied with our manager via the rigging of internet polls is by far and away the most fucking mental thing posted so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Meanwhile the ones who hate him have a tactical lexicon that seldom escapes negative/positive. Not really, It's just more wide ranging than bringing Shola on every time we concede. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Meanwhile the ones who hate him Uncle Alan have a tactical lexicon that seldom escapes negative/positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. We got £9m for Bassong. That's pretty fucking specialist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I would think its very possible that PSG haven't bid formally yet but are in talks. We have realised that talk of getting £20m+ just isnt going to happen so have released this 'rejection' of a £14m bid in the hope it will dampen fans expectations and leave us thinking they have done well to get £16-18m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I would say that it placates fans who are p*ssed off about us not signing anyone ('at least we kept our best players') but other than to laugh at us I'm not convinced they give a f*** what the fans think. Perhaps those half-season ticket sales aren't going well or a lot of people aren't renewing for next season or something. Maybe Joe and Mike were just bored. Well it's clearly not f***ing working Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim. This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that. Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him? http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/big-toon-survey-alan-pardew-6508505 Very happy (33.4%); Content (48.4%); Content but waiting for results to improve (7.5%); Unhappy (5.9%); Time for change (4.7%). I'm aware of the poll Dave. My point was more the fact it's a open poll which anyone can vote in, even Sunderland fans. I just posted the results, wasn't meaning anything by it tbh. Fair play Dave, my reply wasn't mean to be snarky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? Perhaps because none of them have been worth astronomical money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? How many of our star players have we genuinely sold in the past few years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? Perhaps because none of them have been worth astronomical money. Which renders the point useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Meanwhile the ones who hate him Uncle Alan have a tactical lexicon that seldom escapes negative/positive. Oh you!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Congratulations, in a thread where we've got supporters claiming we've leaked details of us rejecting a bid because we really want £8-10m less for a player than he has been publicly valued suggestion that there is a Mackem-led conspiracy to paint us as satisfied with our manager via the rigging of internet polls is by far and away the most f***ing mental thing posted so far. Didn't Shola once come high in a poll for player of the year or something on the Chronicle website, what does that tell you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Meanwhile the ones who hate him Uncle Alan have a tactical lexicon that seldom escapes negative/positive. Oh you!! Sorry just joking, i was going to use 'Dad' but i reserve that for Bretty boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? Apologies, so your point was we don't really sell our best players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? How many of our star players have we genuinely sold in the past few years? At the time of sale Enrique was our best left back. The best one we've had in my 20+ years of supporting the club. Ba was also our best fwd. There's an argument to say Given was the best keeper on our books at the time of sale too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Didn't Shola once come high in a poll for player of the year or something on the Chronicle website, what does that tell you? Chronicle readers are thick as pigshhit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I would think its very possible that PSG haven't bid formally yet but are in talks. We have realised that talk of getting £20m+ just isnt going to happen so have released this 'rejection' of a £14m bid in the hope it will dampen fans expectations and leave us thinking they have done well to get £16-18m for him. Why would we do that though? We don't need the money and I don't imagine we're particularly desperate to sell what with the World Cup on the horizon and inevitable impact that usually has on a players value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Resist all offers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Congratulations, in a thread where we've got supporters claiming we've leaked details of us rejecting a bid because we really want £8-10m less for a player than he has been publicly valued suggestion that there is a Mackem-led conspiracy to paint us as satisfied with our manager via the rigging of internet polls is by far and away the most f***ing mental thing posted so far. Didn't Shola once come high in a poll for player of the year or something on the Chronicle website, what does that tell you? That people just fucking love Shola? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? Apologies, so your point was we don't really sell our best players No my point was, AC apart, we've got no track record of achieving astronomical fees for players, as had been claimed. Hope your maths tutor can bring an English tutor with him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Can't believe people still need convincing that we generally buy and sell players based on the money we can make and not the actual needs of the team at any given time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 To be fair, we have a lot more reason to be negative than positive, with regards to our dealings in the transfer market from recent seasons like. There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Which one went for more than they were worth? Contract clause after signing on a free Contract about to expire Contract about to expire Relegated and wanted out Young, third choice keeper, most surprised we actually got the fee we did Pissed off by Kinnear/stroppy bollocks looking for an excuse to leave after Duff took his place Contract running down and deemed not worth keeping. How many of our "stars" have we actually sold on for a big profit? I count one and if you find a single person who now thinks we shouldn't have sold Carrroll for a British record fee then I have severe concerns about them. That wasn't the point he was making though was it? How many of our players have gone for 'Astronomical fees'? Apologies, so your point was we don't really sell our best players No my point was, AC apart, we've got no track record of achieving astronomical fees for players, as had been claimed. Hope your maths tutor can bring an English tutor with him too. That might be because, AC apart, we don't often sell our best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Why would we do that though? We don't need the money and I don't imagine we're particularly desperate to sell what with the World Cup on the horizon and inevitable impact that usually has on a players value. That can go both ways, the World Cup should have had us running from Guivarc'h when he played shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Resist all offers! www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPcod8IS214 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 That people just f***ing love Shola? If they do they're thick enough to vote for Pardew or are mackems taking the piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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