Guest neesy111 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 The handball was a stonewaller like. Bastard saved it. How that bald creep was trusted with a WC Final man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. The linesman was 10 yards from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. The linesman was 10 yards from it. Exactly....and why it's a disgrace it was missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. The linesman was 10 yards from it. As well as four of our own players. If neither they, nor anyone else, spotted it, is it too much of a surprise that the linesman missed it too? It only seemed to graze his arm. Officials aren't blessed with superhuman powers, or slow-motion replays from a variety of angles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. The linesman was 10 yards from it. As well as four of our own players. If neither they, nor anyone else, spotted it, is it too much of a surprise that the linesman missed it too? It only seemed to graze his arm. Officials aren't blessed with superhuman powers, or slow-motion replays from a variety of angles. Well an official ten yards directly behind a ball with a clear view of the Swansea CB raising both hands above his head deflecting the ball as it was crossed. Yeah i can see why he didn't spot it. And fwiw the player who crossed it (gouff) appealed immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. The linesman was 10 yards from it. As well as four of our own players. If neither they, nor anyone else, spotted it, is it too much of a surprise that the linesman missed it too? It only seemed to graze his arm. Officials aren't blessed with superhuman powers, or slow-motion replays from a variety of angles. Well an official ten yards directly behind a ball with a clear view of the Swansea CB raising both hands above his head deflecting the ball as it was crossed. Yeah i can see why he didn't spot it. And fwiw the player who crossed it (gouff) appealed immediately. It didn't look like much of an appeal to me, but in any case, you're deliberately avoiding the point. You can only call a decision 'scandalous' or a 'disgrace' if it's blatant and the official has a clear view. That cannot be described as blatant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 We all knew Webb was going to have a rather shit game. One of the worst refs in the league imho and that is saying something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I still don't understand why Webb is so highly rated within football, absolutely awful ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 But but but, he talks to the players!1! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Didn't realise you had to appeal to get a decision given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Aye, it's just not cricket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. The linesman was 10 yards from it. As well as four of our own players. If neither they, nor anyone else, spotted it, is it too much of a surprise that the linesman missed it too? It only seemed to graze his arm. Officials aren't blessed with superhuman powers, or slow-motion replays from a variety of angles. Well an official ten yards directly behind a ball with a clear view of the Swansea CB raising both hands above his head deflecting the ball as it was crossed. Yeah i can see why he didn't spot it. And fwiw the player who crossed it (gouff) appealed immediately. It didn't look like much of an appeal to me, but in any case, you're deliberately avoiding the point. You can only call a decision 'scandalous' or a 'disgrace' if it's blatant and the official has a clear view. That cannot be described as blatant. How can it not be blatant (a blatant pen, a blatant wrong decision), take your pick, if he has a clear view from ten yards away, and the player he is looking at has his hands above his head, and that player deflects the cross with those raised hands. It's blatantly wrong......avoiding what question by the way, wasn't aware you asked one. Are you blind to what you saw ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Webb was the difference between points for us or not if he had the balls to actually make some crucial decisions. Should be degraded after yesterdays game. Joke of a ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It is one of football's great mysteries how the white Uriah Rennie that is Webb manages to con enough people into believing that he is a top referee. Following hard on the heels of a thoroughly incompetent display from an unfit looking Phil Dowd on Saturday it is embarrassing that the supposed "world's greatest league" has these guys in charge of matches. I recently watched a Bundesliga match and once again was really impressed with the standard of officiating. The ref looked strong and fit for a start, and managed to remain in complete control making all the big decisions quickly and correctly. As we have now reached the stage where most of the managers and players come from abroad maybe we should start recruiting some competent officials from foreign leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 In fairness, Debuchy could have been sent off as well. I thought he made the right decision with a yellow. Many refs would have succumbed to pressure from the crowd and given a red. The two penalty claims were both a bit marginal. Some you get, some you don't. It wasn't much of a push, and those handballs where a shot gets blocked can go either way. The only really poor decision was the Shelvey head-butt. I can only assume he didn't see it. Williams was a blatant handball, arms were all over the place. Both arms above his head, just scandalous it wasn't given. That one was a tough spot, in real time. I don't think anyone noticed it until the TV replays after the game, did they? I didn't see any appeals from the players. Quite a few players appealed for it, all of our players who were within 20 yards or so of it in fact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If it didn't hit his arm it was hitting the back of the net. His arm was outstretched so it's a penalty. Every single time. Also Williams blocked a cross with both hands - Penalty. The push on Gouffran - you seen them given but realistically I wouldn't give it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Webb does have history for missing blatant hand-balls as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Incredibly hard to stomach, when a non-playing individual has such a massive effect on the result. You look at the replays and think, 'how'? How hasn't he seen it? How has he not given the penalty, if he has seen it? Nothing will be said, or done, about it. It's a routine win for a home side, on an evening of higher profile games. Sickener. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Handball should have been a pen. Ref was wrong side to see the push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Wonder what Tron's view is? He thought Cabaye's on Saturday was ball to hand, similar handball last night but it's easier to brush off a refereeing decision when winning than it is when getting beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Both were penalties for me. 'Ball to hand' or not. We've conceded plenty of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Both were penalties for me. 'Ball to hand' or not. We've conceded plenty of them. Anyone think we've suffered for that horrendous pen Stoke got there a few weeks ago.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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