Dr.Spaceman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, toon25 said: That's not the same as 'normalising' though. And before you start wheeling out shite like folk are 'scum of the earth', perhaps think about the broad spectrum of perspectives people approach issues like this from Nah, you're alright thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 2 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Nah, you're alright thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) Scum of the earth for thinking someone shouldn't have their career ruined for snorting coke Are you alright? Edited December 9 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 13 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: You're absolute scum of the earth if you think a Premier League football referee openly doing class A drugs is behaviour that should be normalised. Scum of the earth is a bit much like. They have an uninformed opinion, they aren't nonces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) I’ve long said CF is the scum of the earth and the power rankings support this. Edited December 9 by Shays Given Tim Flowers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Scum of the earth for thinking someone shouldn't have their career ruined for snorting coke Are you alright? More accurate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Scum of the earth Rapists, nonces, murderers... and a man in a high profile job who took drugs. Shoulder to shoulder in the vulnerable prisons unit at the maximum security nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Joe1984 said: Scum of the earth is a bit much like. They have an uninformed opinion, they aren't nonces. They have a different opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Scum of the earth for thinking someone shouldn't have their career ruined for snorting coke Are you alright? It's not the fact that he did coke, it's the fact that it's been plastered all over the internet. I'm under no illusion that it goes on all the time, people do what they do, but once the evidence is there for all to see it's a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Joe1984 said: Scum of the earth is a bit much like. They have an uninformed opinion, they aren't nonces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: It's not the fact that he did coke, it's the fact that it's been plastered all over the internet. I'm under no illusion that it goes on all the time, people do what they do, but once the evidence is there for all to see it's a different matter. You're not helping yourself here. So you're now arguing that it's the fact he's all over the internet - something over which he had no control - is the thing which meant he should lose his job? And not the fact he took drugs in the first place? So where does your scum of the earth/normalising shite fit in here? Edited December 9 by toon25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Just now, toon25 said: You're not helping yourself here. So you're now arguing that it's the fact he's all over the internet - something over which he had no control - is the thing which meant he should lose his job? And not the fact he took drugs in the first place? Well yeah. You can't have kids googling "David Coote the Premier League referee" and seeing stuff like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: It's not the fact that he did coke, it's the fact that it's been plastered all over the internet. I'm under no illusion that it goes on all the time, people do what they do, but once the evidence is there for all to see it's a different matter. Still makes no sense to me. Reading between the lines, what's the reason? That he's uniquely damaging the brand so deserves to lose his job, shattering naive illusions, setting a bad example? Still not sure how thinking he shouldn't lose his job for it makes you scum of the earth like, as you said yourself you're under no illusion that it goes on all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Well yeah. You can't have kids googling "David Coote the Premier League referee" and seeing stuff like that. You're going back on yourself. One minute you're saying folk are scum of the earth because they want to see a bit of compassion, the next you're saying it's actually got nothing to do with the fact he took drugs, but rather that the video ended up on the internet. Edited December 9 by toon25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) When my daughter starts using the internet and googling stuff, her seeing one specific referee doing coke is probably the least of my worries as a parent like. Edited December 9 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 25 minutes ago, toon25 said: They have a different opinion. 🤣 fair correction! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: When my daughter starts using the internet and googling stuff, her seeing one specific referee doing coke is probably the least of my worries as a parent like. You're letting her Google, man? Sounds like normalising behaviour that. Scum of the earth, you, KI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Did what most folk will be doing up and down the country at their Christmas parties this month, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 21 minutes ago, toon25 said: You're going back on yourself. One minute you're saying folk are scum of the earth because they want to see a bit of compassion, the next you're saying it's actually got nothing to do with the fact he took drugs, but rather that the video ended up on the internet. I don't think people who do coke deserve compassion in instances like these, come at me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Still makes no sense to me. Reading between the lines, what's the reason? That he's uniquely damaging the brand so deserves to lose his job, shattering naive illusions, setting a bad example? Still not sure how thinking he shouldn't lose his job for it makes you scum of the earth like, as you said yourself you're under no illusion that it goes on all the time. Most people just chat absolute shite non-stop at high volume between the lines Edited December 9 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: I don't think people who do coke deserve compassion in instances like these, come at me That's not what you've said above though, man. What you've said is that they don't deserve compassion because they've ended up on the internet And tbf, calling people scum of the earth because they have a different opinion to yours is pretty lame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Just now, toon25 said: That's not what you've said above though, man. What you've said is that they don't deserve compassion because they've ended up on the internet And tbf, calling people scum of the earth because they have a different opinion to yours is pretty lame. I'm not calling people scum of the earth because they have a different opinion to me (check my post history if you like, you will see that I am an advocate for people voicing different opinions), I'm calling people scum of the earth for normalising the use of class A's, particularly when linked to a high profile individual in something very popular amongst kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Thanks for clarifying, but yeah that's the same as what I thought you were saying from the start and I can't speak for anyone else, but changes nothing about the reaction to it as a completely mental position for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Genuinely couldn't care less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 Wouldnt expect you to, but you obviously cared enough to call someone scum of the earth, make your point and then defend it like, so you do care to that (extremely far) extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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