Hughesy Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. The context is, it seems the club knew Liverpool weren't going to sell him to us a month ago and the whole stuff going on from that has been a smokescreen to keep the fans happy by apparently look like we were interested in him still. That's pretty much undiluted crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. The context is, it seems the club knew Liverpool weren't going to sell him to us a month ago and the whole stuff going on from that has been a smokescreen to keep the fans happy by apparently look like we were interested in him still. I'm sorry Nessy, but I really don't think that's what it actually means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. The context is, it seems the club knew Liverpool weren't going to sell him to us a month ago and the whole stuff going on from that has been a smokescreen to keep the fans happy by apparently look like we were interested in him still. Mate, you are literally the most negative person I've ever come across. You literally try to see the worst in every situation. Why is that? Jog on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think he meant it was politically sensitive, i.e. Liverpool would be embarrassed if they sold him back to us for a big discount. Thats fair enough Ian, it is open to debate how you interpret the comments. I'm just fed up this morning. I actually think it was the "we will look at if we need to bring someone in now Raylor's injured". If, its just insulting to our intelligence to suggest its an if. Nothing about his quotes suggest anything other than what people have said many times above, it was politically damaging for Liverpool to sell to us. It's nothing to do with the wider transfer situation really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. Read above "a politcal move by us" Read above, he didnt say that Yes he did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. The context is, it seems the club knew Liverpool weren't going to sell him to us a month ago and the whole stuff going on from that has been a smokescreen to keep the fans happy by apparently look like we were interested in him still. Mate, you are literally the most negative person I've ever come across. You literally try to see the worst in every situation. Why is that? Jog on. With hope in your heart. YNJA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. The context is, it seems the club knew Liverpool weren't going to sell him to us a month ago and the whole stuff going on from that has been a smokescreen to keep the fans happy by apparently look like we were interested in him still. That's pretty much undiluted saturated crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. Read above "a politcal move by us" Read above, he didnt say that Yes he did. He really didnt at all. Your quote was much longer, in a different order and had a different meaning. Other than that you are right though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I think he meant it was politically sensitive, i.e. Liverpool would be embarrassed if they sold him back to us for a big discount. Thats fair enough Ian, it is open to debate how you interpret the comments. I'm just fed up this morning. I actually think it was the "we will look at if we need to bring someone in now Raylor's injured". If, its just insulting to our intelligence to suggest its an if. Nothing about his quotes suggest anything other than what people have said many times above, it was politically damaging for Liverpool to sell to us. It's nothing to do with the wider transfer situation really. Again its open to interpretation but i see the point. Just very fed up when a chance to kick on is right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's started already! There's going to be ructions on here tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Thats how everyone other than Bimpy/Neesy sees it yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 It's been clear for weeks Liverpool were never ever going to allow Carroll back to us. 1) To Save Face. 2) They consider us a rival to them now clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. Read above "a politcal move by us" Read above, he didnt say that Yes he did. He really didnt at all. Your quote was much longer, in a different order and had a different meaning. Other than that you are right though I know i put it wrong to begin with, ignore me mate i'm just fed up and grumpy this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Feel a bit sad not being able to do the Cage meme here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Thats how everyone other than Bimpy/Neesy sees it yeah. How very arrogant of you. But thanks for the input. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Wouldnt be surprised if we cash in on Tiote next year as he will be 27 going on 28?, but only if Bigi continues to perform.....but that will be good business as far as I am concerned. If we can get say £25m for Tiote, then Bigi will be his ready made replacement. I make that a cool £20.5m profit with a younger version of the same player already in situ, and that profit can be used to bring in yet more young players so they can be groomed to replace other senior players who can be sold at a vast profit, because we already have their replacements in situ, and thus generating even more funds to take the club up to the next level. I think we will find it a refreshing change to not have to make panic buys to replace star players that have been sold because of an Andy Carrol type offer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. Read above "a politcal move by us" Read above, he didnt say that Yes he did. He really didnt at all. Your quote was much longer, in a different order and had a different meaning. Other than that you are right though I know it put it wrong to begin with, ignore me mate i'm just fed up and grumpy this morning. Its ok, i know you arent usually grumpy. Pretty glad i have a shit party to attend tonight so wont see the real fallout on here later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Wouldnt be surprised if we cash in on Tiote next year as he will be 27 going on 28?, but only if Bigi continues to perform.....but that will be good business as far as I am concerned. If we can get say £25m for Tiote, then Bigi will be his ready made replacement. I make that a cool £20.5m profit with a younger version of the same player already in situ, and that profit can be used to bring in yet more young players so they can be groomed to replace other senior players who can be sold at a vast profit, because we already have their replacements in situ, and thus generating even more funds to take the club up to the next level. I think we will find it a refreshing change to not have to make panic buys to replace star players that have been sold because of an Andy Carrol type offer! Tioté's contract runs until 2017. No rush to cash in. He's 26 btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Thats how everyone other than Bimpy/Neesy sees it yeah. How very arrogant of you. But thanks for the input. Its arrogant to say that only two people discussing it in this thread think one thing and the rest think the other? Deary me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Pardew never said it was a political bid by us. It would help if people read what he actually said and the context. Read above "a politcal move by us" Read above, he didnt say that Yes he did. He really didnt at all. Your quote was much longer, in a different order and had a different meaning. Other than that you are right though I know it put it wrong to begin with, ignore me mate i'm just fed up and grumpy this morning. Its ok, i know you arent usually grumpy. Pretty glad i have a shit party to attend tonight so wont see the real fallout on here later I'm stuck at home blubbling away, usually work on the transfer windows. I might just go to bed for the rest of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Does he not mean the move of Carroll back to Newcastle would be 'political' because it would make Liverpool look like fucking idiots more so than selling to anyone else? Thats how everyone other than Bimpy/Neesy sees it yeah. How very arrogant of you. But thanks for the input. Its arrogant to say that only two people discussing it in this thread think one thing and the rest think the other? Deary me Dismissive then ?. Just because Nessy and i see the comments different doesn't mean we are wrong does it. Doesn't meant we are right either. The same applies to you too doesn't it ?. Only person who knows how he meant it was Pardew. We are all just guessing at what we think he meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Remember that talk in at the end of last season when Pardew said he wanted a 8 goal a season defender. Where is he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Remember that talk in at the end of last season when Pardew said he wanted a 8 goal a season defender. Where is he? I dont blame him for that, thats down to transfers and the board allowing them, tbf to Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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