Guest Eric Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Better to be well ran club then one in a total financial mess. Better to reinvest on the pitch than have a healthier P&L account. Only if you have the money to hand and the right players are available at the right price. What a bizarre defence of the indefensible? It's short-sighted idiocy. We're generating profits which will grow, the only reason MA has to put his hand in his pocket is because he insists on paying all fees upfront but he lets us get paid on the never never (Carroll aside). You mean to tell me there is not a better RB out there at a reasonable price? What about a French International who did well at the Euros? From a financial perspective if I remember rightly where we also fell down was that our commercial revenue had actually shrank since MA arrived, that's apparently DL's remit and he's failing spectacularly. European football and attracting a better class of football might actually aid DL grow this revenue stream, but it appears we're far more interested in future re-sale value than organic growth as a football club. It's why people continually question motives and intentions. History tells us since MA revealed the type of person he is, one window apart, January just passed, we know what's going to happen. Jesus man, look at the squad we have, quite good right. We are keeping our best players (so far) We are doing something right, our additions have been spot on the last years. I want more players, at least a RB, dont get me wrong. But frankly we have no clue whats going on in the negotiations with Lille or any other clubs. But goddamn man, get some air I'll excuse you for not understanding as you're foreign, but yeah my favourite colour is green as I said above. Yes, me being foreign has a lot to do with my understanding. Such a childish argument, but go on The fact is you get wound up by the media/twitter/forum bandwagon in regards to signing players, while the fact is we know jack s*** of whats going on behind the scene. If everything was as easy as some here are going on about Debuchy, i am sure he would be a NUFC player by now. Obviously its not as straight forward, and i think Lille hold out for top dollar for this lad despite what the media says about rumored transfer fees. What are you going on about? I'n not wound up at all, I've never purported to know anything whatsoever? It is quite straight forward you pay a price a club wants or you don't, that simple, if not you move on to another target, or why look for a RB if we don't need one? Like you, it's very, very simple. But i disagree its so simple. I think we had a "agreement" with Lille what Debuchy would cost, and i think they reassessed the price after the Euros. Even Debuch hinted something like that in a interview he made dident he? So we are playing hardball with Lille regarding the price. I also think that we have other RB`s in mind, but that is hard to tell really. And to be honest, what successful business man agree on the first price the seller gives them? At least on a product like a football player, with no retail price. What are you talking about? I don't have your insider knowledge you've already claimed nobody has, but Lille want a price, we're not willing to pay it, move on. Pardew talked about there not being a B,C, D list etc. I don't even know why I'm acknowledging you and your ramblings, here have some Pardew quotes:- Mathieu Debuchy’s transfer is out of Pardew’s hands: “I’m pretty relaxed about the transfers, it’s out of my hands now to a degree. “Myself, Graham (Carr) and the team have put together what we think is a shortlist and it’s about Derek (Llambias) and Lee (Charnley) and Mike (Ashley) getting a deal that they think is right for the club. Pardew is relaxed about current squad: “If I have to run for the first game or the first week (of the season) with this squad I’m pretty relaxed about that. Having said that, I’m still pretty hopeful there’ll be a body or two in before then. But lets wait and see.” There is no ‘B’ list. “I don’t like to think we have a ‘B’ list. It’s an ‘A’ list and sometimes it’s just whether all the ingredients are there.” “If that isn’t working, you just go to another name on the ‘A’ list. There’s not many names on it – there’s two or three in each position. All of those players would take us forward.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 You can't have it all your own way if you try to run a football club the right way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What is this shit?! We still have money left from the Carroll deal. We have got money from a higher league finish, TV-money and the EL. We haven´t straightened and we have more games. And people are happy Our problem (one of them anyway) is that we hang on to long with one deal. If Lille in fact moved the bar for Debuchy, just say "fuck off" and move on to another deal. We haven´t and have screwed up again. 5th was more than I tought. But I wasn´t surprised that we improved last year. In opposite to others I though we improved a lot. You should always replace the losses (we havent; Best, Lovenkrands, Smith), and this year we also have to make the squad bigger because we have A LOT MORE GAMES! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. sorry for the inaccuracy on the Pav transfer. Brinkmanship is not exactly an exact science is it. Business is often about risks and so many things in life depend on the consequences as to whether or not it proved to be a good idea. On the whole, I agree with brinkmanship because over time I think you'll benefit from it more, but in short-term terms, it can be frustrating. Dembele is a lovely player but not even close to filling Modric's shoes. We haven't however lost anyone, so we don't know whether we'd have anyone lined up to replace them. I certainly could imagine Llambias going for someone who was a bargain on deadline day as long as he had been properly scouted and was what we needed. Our transfer style is to do very long scouts on people and then make sure we get the best deal, I personally think it works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well yeah, they lost Pavlyuchenko, Crouch and brought Ade in very late. Sure if I was a Spurs fan, I'd have been frustrated. I really liked Guthrie but can understand why he left, think Anita is a much better player than him though (certainly will become one as he's much more-rounded). I can only talk about it being fine right now and disappointed if we don't get a RB in if it doesn't happen. Do you want me to say I'm disappointed about something that hasn't happened? Spurs are in a better position to get a player like Dembele because of his London connection + their financial situation and likelihood of a top five finish. I think we operate in a very similar manner to Spurs. They've lost Modric really late in the window which a lot of fans would worry about when they'd have expected it to happen all summer. Every club has its gripes. We have been steadily improving for a while now, we have a lot of talented youngsters who I think may well make an impact this season with all the games we'll have to play Pav never left until February this Year, however irrlevant that was. I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. Never thought I'd see the day when someone called me an apologist for Ashley n Decker. Eric, if its so simple why are we not doing what you say? Gbandit is Gimp? Why did we not sign a striker last summer when Pardew ended up livid like the entire fanbase, after 9 Months of searching? Why did we not buy a CB in January when MA was asking Pardew when one would arrive apparently? Perhaps this money we might not have has disappeared after we bid for De Jong and Andy Carroll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 “If that isn’t working, you just go to another name on the ‘A’ list. There’s not many names on it – there’s two or three in each position. All of those players would take us forward.” And were the hell is these players now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What is this s***?! We still have money left from the Carroll deal. We have got money from a higher league finish, TV-money and the EL. We haven´t straightened and we have more games. And people are happy Our problem (one of them anyway) is that we hang on to long with one deal. If Lille in fact moved the bar for Debuchy, just say "f*** off" and move on to another deal. We haven´t and have screwed up again. 5th was more than I tought. But I wasn´t surprised that we improved last year. In opposite to others I though we improved a lot. You should always replace the losses (we havent; Best, Lovenkrands, Smith), and this year we also have to make the squad bigger because we have A LOT MORE GAMES! Who is happy? Did Smith even play for us in the prem last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I prefer not to detract from football debate but calling me an 'apologist' is pretty weak. I'm not an apologist for anything other than trying to actually move forward as a club on the pitch and off it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. sorry for the inaccuracy on the Pav transfer. Brinkmanship is not exactly an exact science is it. Business is often about risks and so many things in life depend on the consequences as to whether or not it proved to be a good idea. On the whole, I agree with brinkmanship because over time I think you'll benefit from it more, but in short-term terms, it can be frustrating. Dembele is a lovely player but not even close to filling Modric's shoes. We haven't however lost anyone, so we don't know whether we'd have anyone lined up to replace them. I certainly could imagine Llambias going for someone who was a bargain on deadline day as long as he had been properly scouted and was what we needed. Our transfer style is to do very long scouts on people and then make sure we get the best deal, I personally think it works We haven´t replaced the likes of Best ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What is this s***?! We still have money left from the Carroll deal. We have got money from a higher league finish, TV-money and the EL. We haven´t straightened and we have more games. And people are happy Our problem (one of them anyway) is that we hang on to long with one deal. If Lille in fact moved the bar for Debuchy, just say "f*** off" and move on to another deal. We haven´t and have screwed up again. 5th was more than I tought. But I wasn´t surprised that we improved last year. In opposite to others I though we improved a lot. You should always replace the losses (we havent; Best, Lovenkrands, Smith), and this year we also have to make the squad bigger because we have A LOT MORE GAMES! Who is happy? Did Smith even play for us in the prem last season? No. But he still was a "A-player" that needed to be replaced. As you may know our squad are paper thin and we are looking to be playing twice a week for months. My God if we get injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well yeah, they lost Pavlyuchenko, Crouch and brought Ade in very late. Sure if I was a Spurs fan, I'd have been frustrated. I really liked Guthrie but can understand why he left, think Anita is a much better player than him though (certainly will become one as he's much more-rounded). I can only talk about it being fine right now and disappointed if we don't get a RB in if it doesn't happen. Do you want me to say I'm disappointed about something that hasn't happened? Spurs are in a better position to get a player like Dembele because of his London connection + their financial situation and likelihood of a top five finish. I think we operate in a very similar manner to Spurs. They've lost Modric really late in the window which a lot of fans would worry about when they'd have expected it to happen all summer. Every club has its gripes. We have been steadily improving for a while now, we have a lot of talented youngsters who I think may well make an impact this season with all the games we'll have to play Pav never left until February this Year, however irrlevant that was. I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. Never thought I'd see the day when someone called me an apologist for Ashley n Decker. Eric, if its so simple why are we not doing what you say? Gbandit is Gimp? Why did we not sign a striker last summer when Pardew ended up livid like the entire fanbase, after 9 Months of searching? Why did we not buy a CB in January when MA was asking Pardew when one would arrive apparently? Perhaps this money we might not have has disappeared after we bid for De Jong and Andy Carroll? No we are not the same person. Striker last summer, we picked up BA on a free and thought that the valuation of the players we were chasing were to expensive...it worked out well as Cisse value dropped to a reasonable price. The money may have been put aside like the money we used for Cisse in January. If its so easy why have we not done it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. sorry for the inaccuracy on the Pav transfer. Brinkmanship is not exactly an exact science is it. Business is often about risks and so many things in life depend on the consequences as to whether or not it proved to be a good idea. On the whole, I agree with brinkmanship because over time I think you'll benefit from it more, but in short-term terms, it can be frustrating. Dembele is a lovely player but not even close to filling Modric's shoes. We haven't however lost anyone, so we don't know whether we'd have anyone lined up to replace them. I certainly could imagine Llambias going for someone who was a bargain on deadline day as long as he had been properly scouted and was what we needed. Our transfer style is to do very long scouts on people and then make sure we get the best deal, I personally think it works We haven´t replaced the likes of Best ffs. Aye, fair point. But he only played 21 games last season, not sure how many sub appearances, but obviously a fair few. I liked him a lot but he was a huge liability with injuries. Going forward I think we have options with Marv/Ben Arfa/Sammy and to a lesser extent Obertan all able to come through and play a role there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. sorry for the inaccuracy on the Pav transfer. Brinkmanship is not exactly an exact science is it. Business is often about risks and so many things in life depend on the consequences as to whether or not it proved to be a good idea. On the whole, I agree with brinkmanship because over time I think you'll benefit from it more, but in short-term terms, it can be frustrating. Dembele is a lovely player but not even close to filling Modric's shoes. We haven't however lost anyone, so we don't know whether we'd have anyone lined up to replace them. I certainly could imagine Llambias going for someone who was a bargain on deadline day as long as he had been properly scouted and was what we needed. Our transfer style is to do very long scouts on people and then make sure we get the best deal, I personally think it works What? Risk and reward are usually interlinked mind, spend £3m and there's very little chance of financial armageddon, spend £30m and there's a higher chance, brinkmanship is a pure gamble, sometimes it'll pay off, sometimes it won't. Dembele isn't the only player Spurs are targetting, they've already brought in Sigurdson as well by the way, again, no relevance as we're nowt like them. We've been scouting for this window for months man, we've already moved on to the next window, what we done? Haven't addressed the weakness we had in January, haven't replaced the two strikers we've lost and the RB position we've been trying to. But aye we've not lost anyone and the system is infallable. I'm out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Better to be well ran club then one in a total financial mess. Better to reinvest on the pitch than have a healthier P&L account. Only if you have the money to hand and the right players are available at the right price. What a bizarre defence of the indefensible? It's short-sighted idiocy. We're generating profits which will grow, the only reason MA has to put his hand in his pocket is because he insists on paying all fees upfront but he lets us get paid on the never never (Carroll aside). You mean to tell me there is not a better RB out there at a reasonable price? What about a French International who did well at the Euros? From a financial perspective if I remember rightly where we also fell down was that our commercial revenue had actually shrank since MA arrived, that's apparently DL's remit and he's failing spectacularly. European football and attracting a better class of football might actually aid DL grow this revenue stream, but it appears we're far more interested in future re-sale value than organic growth as a football club. It's why people continually question motives and intentions. History tells us since MA revealed the type of person he is, one window apart, January just passed, we know what's going to happen. Jesus man, look at the squad we have, quite good right. We are keeping our best players (so far) We are doing something right, our additions have been spot on the last years. I want more players, at least a RB, dont get me wrong. But frankly we have no clue whats going on in the negotiations with Lille or any other clubs. But goddamn man, get some air I'll excuse you for not understanding as you're foreign, but yeah my favourite colour is green as I said above. Yes, me being foreign has a lot to do with my understanding. Such a childish argument, but go on The fact is you get wound up by the media/twitter/forum bandwagon in regards to signing players, while the fact is we know jack s*** of whats going on behind the scene. If everything was as easy as some here are going on about Debuchy, i am sure he would be a NUFC player by now. Obviously its not as straight forward, and i think Lille hold out for top dollar for this lad despite what the media says about rumored transfer fees. What are you going on about? I'n not wound up at all, I've never purported to know anything whatsoever? It is quite straight forward you pay a price a club wants or you don't, that simple, if not you move on to another target, or why look for a RB if we don't need one? Like you, it's very, very simple. But i disagree its so simple. I think we had a "agreement" with Lille what Debuchy would cost, and i think they reassessed the price after the Euros. Even Debuch hinted something like that in a interview he made dident he? So we are playing hardball with Lille regarding the price. I also think that we have other RB`s in mind, but that is hard to tell really. And to be honest, what successful business man agree on the first price the seller gives them? At least on a product like a football player, with no retail price. What are you talking about? I don't have your insider knowledge you've already claimed nobody has, but Lille want a price, we're not willing to pay it, move on. Pardew talked about there not being a B,C, D list etc. I don't even know why I'm acknowledging you and your ramblings, here have some Pardew quotes:- Mathieu Debuchy’s transfer is out of Pardew’s hands: “I’m pretty relaxed about the transfers, it’s out of my hands now to a degree. “Myself, Graham (Carr) and the team have put together what we think is a shortlist and it’s about Derek (Llambias) and Lee (Charnley) and Mike (Ashley) getting a deal that they think is right for the club. Pardew is relaxed about current squad: “If I have to run for the first game or the first week (of the season) with this squad I’m pretty relaxed about that. Having said that, I’m still pretty hopeful there’ll be a body or two in before then. But lets wait and see.” There is no ‘B’ list. “I don’t like to think we have a ‘B’ list. It’s an ‘A’ list and sometimes it’s just whether all the ingredients are there.” “If that isn’t working, you just go to another name on the ‘A’ list. There’s not many names on it – there’s two or three in each position. All of those players would take us forward.” Its based on what Debuchy himself said in a interview ffs And what the fuck does this Pardew quotes have anything to say in this matter? You call my posts ramblings Just leave it man, i am just a foreigner, locked up in a cave anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I personally think finishing 7th/8th would be a great feat this season but would not be surprised if we finished lower. Chelsea will be above us and maybe Everton/Liverpool and of course those Mackems think they are going to storm the top 6 now!! Say we finish 7th then we will have already lost £1.5m because of the lower placing. Would spending an extra £1m help us to finish higher? I don't want or expect us to spend, spend, spend but we were obviously prepared to spend £15m earlier in the season had our offers been accepted. They keep telling us how they have all these players scouted and ready to move on to if they fail to land their preferred target but that does not seem to be the case. I obviously don't want them to sign players for the sake of it but I cannot believe there is seemingly never any willingness to compromise on our part whilst at the same time expecting everyone else to do so. I am also not sure whether the prices will drop next year as other clubs will be very aware of the new TV deal and will probably ask for more money for their players as will agents for salaries and commission. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well yeah, they lost Pavlyuchenko, Crouch and brought Ade in very late. Sure if I was a Spurs fan, I'd have been frustrated. I really liked Guthrie but can understand why he left, think Anita is a much better player than him though (certainly will become one as he's much more-rounded). I can only talk about it being fine right now and disappointed if we don't get a RB in if it doesn't happen. Do you want me to say I'm disappointed about something that hasn't happened? Spurs are in a better position to get a player like Dembele because of his London connection + their financial situation and likelihood of a top five finish. I think we operate in a very similar manner to Spurs. They've lost Modric really late in the window which a lot of fans would worry about when they'd have expected it to happen all summer. Every club has its gripes. We have been steadily improving for a while now, we have a lot of talented youngsters who I think may well make an impact this season with all the games we'll have to play Pav never left until February this Year, however irrlevant that was. I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. Never thought I'd see the day when someone called me an apologist for Ashley n Decker. Eric, if its so simple why are we not doing what you say? Gbandit is Gimp? Why did we not sign a striker last summer when Pardew ended up livid like the entire fanbase, after 9 Months of searching? Why did we not buy a CB in January when MA was asking Pardew when one would arrive apparently? Perhaps this money we might not have has disappeared after we bid for De Jong and Andy Carroll? No we are not the same person. Striker last summer, we picked up BA on a free and thought that the valuation of the players we were chasing were to expensive...it worked out well as Cisse value dropped to a reasonable price. The money may have been put aside like the money we used for Cisse in January. If its so easy why have we not done it? Apology accepted, have a good day, I'll repeat the same thing when I log on later so you remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Thanks Eric, I looked forward to more of your crystal ball insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well yeah, they lost Pavlyuchenko, Crouch and brought Ade in very late. Sure if I was a Spurs fan, I'd have been frustrated. I really liked Guthrie but can understand why he left, think Anita is a much better player than him though (certainly will become one as he's much more-rounded). I can only talk about it being fine right now and disappointed if we don't get a RB in if it doesn't happen. Do you want me to say I'm disappointed about something that hasn't happened? Spurs are in a better position to get a player like Dembele because of his London connection + their financial situation and likelihood of a top five finish. I think we operate in a very similar manner to Spurs. They've lost Modric really late in the window which a lot of fans would worry about when they'd have expected it to happen all summer. Every club has its gripes. We have been steadily improving for a while now, we have a lot of talented youngsters who I think may well make an impact this season with all the games we'll have to play Pav never left until February this Year, however irrlevant that was. I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're fuck all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. History repeating itself? I thought we were actually considered one of the shrewdest operators in the transfer market last season, so how you figured out the apologists were in the wrong here I don't know. My view is that we will find it difficult to get 5th again this year because clubs like Everton have moved on. We need a couple more signings for me to be happy but it's not going to be a disaster if we don't get them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I can´t believe what I´m reading. Sick of this. Done now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I can´t believe what I´m reading. Sick of this. Done now. EH? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I can´t believe what I´m reading. Sick of this. Done now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I remember reading people lose their heads completely like this inthe last four windows where they signed off in a rage. Things haven't worked out too badly since then though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well yeah, they lost Pavlyuchenko, Crouch and brought Ade in very late. Sure if I was a Spurs fan, I'd have been frustrated. I really liked Guthrie but can understand why he left, think Anita is a much better player than him though (certainly will become one as he's much more-rounded). I can only talk about it being fine right now and disappointed if we don't get a RB in if it doesn't happen. Do you want me to say I'm disappointed about something that hasn't happened? Spurs are in a better position to get a player like Dembele because of his London connection + their financial situation and likelihood of a top five finish. I think we operate in a very similar manner to Spurs. They've lost Modric really late in the window which a lot of fans would worry about when they'd have expected it to happen all summer. Every club has its gripes. We have been steadily improving for a while now, we have a lot of talented youngsters who I think may well make an impact this season with all the games we'll have to play Pav never left until February this Year, however irrlevant that was. I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. History repeating itself? I thought we were actually considered one of the shrewdest operators in the transfer market last season, so how you figured out the apologists were in the wrong here I don't know. My view is that we will find it difficult to get 5th again this year because clubs like Everton have moved on. We need a couple more signings for me to be happy but it's not going to be a disaster if we don't get them. Ah last season, the only window that ever happened under this ownership and history re-written to forget the furore as we failed to sign a striker after 9 Months of planning. I'm off to read short stories to kids, they have to the ability to take things in and their youthful naivety is refreshing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well yeah, they lost Pavlyuchenko, Crouch and brought Ade in very late. Sure if I was a Spurs fan, I'd have been frustrated. I really liked Guthrie but can understand why he left, think Anita is a much better player than him though (certainly will become one as he's much more-rounded). I can only talk about it being fine right now and disappointed if we don't get a RB in if it doesn't happen. Do you want me to say I'm disappointed about something that hasn't happened? Spurs are in a better position to get a player like Dembele because of his London connection + their financial situation and likelihood of a top five finish. I think we operate in a very similar manner to Spurs. They've lost Modric really late in the window which a lot of fans would worry about when they'd have expected it to happen all summer. Every club has its gripes. We have been steadily improving for a while now, we have a lot of talented youngsters who I think may well make an impact this season with all the games we'll have to play Pav never left until February this Year, however irrlevant that was. I actually thought Guthrie was probably our most consistent midfielder last season, so that's high praise for Anita indeed, hope he's as good as you think he is. I don't want you to be unhappy at anything, you either think brinkmanship is a good thing or it's not, you said it was, then said it wouldn't be, which is it? It's good if it works, not so if it doesn't? Spurs are in a position to sign Dembele because they re-invest and they plan, Modric deal has been going on forever, they're pragmatic, we're f*** all like them, Levy signed RDV on deadline day because he was a bargain, imagine Llambias doing that? They've already lined their ducks up with plenty of time to spare, as usual we're looking like doing nowt and missing yet another massive opportunity, if that happens, it's just history repeating itself, both in the transfer market and the apologists. History repeating itself? I thought we were actually considered one of the shrewdest operators in the transfer market last season, so how you figured out the apologists were in the wrong here I don't know. My view is that we will find it difficult to get 5th again this year because clubs like Everton have moved on. We need a couple more signings for me to be happy but it's not going to be a disaster if we don't get them. Ah last season, the only window that ever happened under this ownership and history re-written to forget the furore as we failed to sign a striker after 9 Months of planning. I'm off to read short stories to kids, they have to the ability to take things in and their youthful naivety is refreshing. Ok uncal Eric. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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