Happy Face Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It's quite funny to me that you've posted that definition, considering that's exactly what Pardew does. To think that it's insane to accept sub-mediocrity is f***ing lifting like. Nee offence. No he doesn't. We've been passing it about on the ground much more this season, on the whole. Notwithstanding 45 minutes in the second half on Saturday. We've had a proper 4-3-3 with two advanced players either side of Cisse rather than him being on his jack jones winning f*** all and holding up f*** all. Tiote didn't get his place back automatically which was infuriating before. Doubt Steven Taylor would have either. He has no Plan B and when Plan A fails...he keeps trying Plan A. I'd call that doing the same thing and expecting different results. We had a whole season of it man and nothing has changed. At the risk of incurring the wrath of the anti-stat brigade once again, I have to apologise and say that the numbers aren't make believe, there is a trend for reducing long balls since January. Last season we hit more long than any club in the league. This season only Arsenal have currently hit fewer. However successful you think this change of approach has been, or how long it will last is open to debate, but it's clearly a conscious move towards playing on the ground rather than in the air, and should be applauded by those who have crioticised the hoofball of the recent past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We're definitely playing better, we did against Hull until we started making mistakes. Then we panicked and started hitting more of those pointless longer balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Big misconception amongst fans. If you don't play long balls it is good football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Oh dear. That's when you know someone's run out of material. It's a decent point, like. I genuinely can't remember Wullie ever being happy. Crazy eh, what with all the ambition we've shown and success we've had in recent times. Seemed to be happy enough to me when Chris Hughton was being left alone to run things. If so then good. He would have been in a small minority, along with myself, who rated Hughton both as a person and a football man when he was given the job. If my memory serves me most on here absolutely slated the guy, dished out the usual gratuitous and vitriolic insults and generally considered him to be Ashley's poodle and a non entity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Most people thought Hughton was a 'yes man' IIRC, and criticised him for that a lot. Doesn't mean he wasn't unfairly sacked mind, or that he's a bad guy. But the perception was definitely that Ashley has appointed a puppet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It's quite funny to me that you've posted that definition, considering that's exactly what Pardew does. To think that it's insane to accept sub-mediocrity is f***ing lifting like. Nee offence. No he doesn't. We've been passing it about on the ground much more this season, on the whole. Notwithstanding 45 minutes in the second half on Saturday. We've had a proper 4-3-3 with two advanced players either side of Cisse rather than him being on his jack jones winning f*** all and holding up f*** all. Tiote didn't get his place back automatically which was infuriating before. Doubt Steven Taylor would have either. He has no Plan B and when Plan A fails...he keeps trying Plan A. I'd call that doing the same thing and expecting different results. We had a whole season of it man and nothing has changed. At the risk of incurring the wrath of the anti-stat brigade once again, I have to apologise and say that the numbers aren't make believe, there is a trend for reducing long balls since January. Last season we hit more long than any club in the league. This season only Arsenal have currently hit fewer. However successful you think this change of approach has been, or how long it will last is open to debate, but it's clearly a conscious move towards playing on the ground rather than in the air, and should be applauded by those who have crioticised the hoofball of the recent past. I didn't mention hoofball, or long balls, or any of the things that you're discussing. I'm saying that he tries something and if he tries and it continues to fail, he continues to try it. You can call that sticking to and believing in the way that you play. That's fair enough, Barcalona do it, and so do a lot of other teams. You can put a positive spin on Pardew sticking to his philosophy or whatever, but what isn't fair enough and what there is absolutely no spin on, is if what he sticks with hasn't worked, it will continue to not work. You can point to the long balls last season and you can definitely say that we've cut that out. Our outlook on matches is always the same though. Attack, possibly score and then look to hold on. It's been the same since day 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We are in a sort of transition period if you like this season, we are trying something new, just need to stick with it, the side is still gelling together, we need to start making sure we are getting Ben Arfa/Remy in the right areas in order for them to create. Ben Arfa had a stinker on Sat, these things can happen. I'm sure we will have learnt a lot from that defeat on Saturday and looked at areas where we need to improve and hopefully we will be a lot tighter against everton and concentration levels of a higher order. It’s not a time now to be making drastic changes to the side or management. Still gelling together after 3 years Its gonna be World War III by the time Pardew figures out how to construct a slick passing side.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Big misconception amongst fans. If you don't play long balls it is good football. It looked to me like good football when we had Fulham pinned back and were all over Hull. I'm told it looked good against Villa too but I never saw that game. Remy has made a massive difference because it wasn't at all as effective against Man City or West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Good fotballers make a difference shocker... has F..all to do with Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Big misconception amongst fans. If you don't play long balls it is good football. It looked to me like good football when we had Fulham pinned back and were all over Hull. I'm told it looked good against Villa too but I never saw that game. Remy has made a massive difference because it wasn't at all as effective against Man City or West Ham. Don't think you saw any of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Stats would tell you we had more shots on target than Hull, however most were from outside the box, we really didn't "create" many chances We didn't - our 2 goals were our only shots on target. They had 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Good fotballers make a difference shocker... has F..all to do with Pardew. Blaming him for the bad stuff while not praising him for the good is not particularly balanced. Good footballers like Ben Arfa, Debuchy and Sissoko had utter shitters on Saturday, fuck all to do with Pardew as well by that measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We are in a sort of transition period if you like this season, we are trying something new, just need to stick with it, the side is still gelling together, we need to start making sure we are getting Ben Arfa/Remy in the right areas in order for them to create. Ben Arfa had a stinker on Sat, these things can happen. I'm sure we will have learnt a lot from that defeat on Saturday and looked at areas where we need to improve and hopefully we will be a lot tighter against everton and concentration levels of a higher order. It’s not a time now to be making drastic changes to the side or management. Still gelling together after 3 years Its gonna be World War III by the time Pardew figures out how to construct a slick passing side.. 3 years together? You serious or just a complete tard? Debuchy MYM Sissoko Remy have only been playing Prem league football for 6 month, one of which has only just came in to the side. Anita has just started to find his feet in a new system, the team as a whole has only really played two matches together, this isn't a settled side by any means of the imagination. We've been trying to implement a new playing style in a formation that was successful in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We are in a sort of transition period if you like this season, we are trying something new, just need to stick with it, the side is still gelling together, we need to start making sure we are getting Ben Arfa/Remy in the right areas in order for them to create. Ben Arfa had a stinker on Sat, these things can happen. I'm sure we will have learnt a lot from that defeat on Saturday and looked at areas where we need to improve and hopefully we will be a lot tighter against everton and concentration levels of a higher order. It’s not a time now to be making drastic changes to the side or management. Still gelling together after 3 years Its gonna be World War III by the time Pardew figures out how to construct a slick passing side.. 3 years together? You serious or just a complete tard? Debuchy MYM Sissoko Remy have only been playing Prem league football for 6 month, one of which has only just came in to the side. Anita has just started to find his feet in a new system, the team as a whole has only really played two matches together, this isn't a settled side by any means of the imagination. We've been trying to implement a new playing style in a formation that was successful in the past. And how long has Pardew been here you absolute spackard New players conform to the team and the managers visions - and if they dont well then they have failed to make the jump to the PL. Going on the fourth season now with no style or identity - Gelling my arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 So THAT'S why we didn't sign anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 So THAT'S why we didn't sign anyone. With every new signing the managers gets another 6 months dont you know - they hardly know eachother Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 So THAT'S why we didn't sign anyone. That's not what he said like, but carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We are in a sort of transition period if you like this season, we are trying something new, just need to stick with it, the side is still gelling together, we need to start making sure we are getting Ben Arfa/Remy in the right areas in order for them to create. Ben Arfa had a stinker on Sat, these things can happen. I'm sure we will have learnt a lot from that defeat on Saturday and looked at areas where we need to improve and hopefully we will be a lot tighter against everton and concentration levels of a higher order. It’s not a time now to be making drastic changes to the side or management. Still gelling together after 3 years Its gonna be World War III by the time Pardew figures out how to construct a slick passing side.. 3 years together? You serious or just a complete tard? Debuchy MYM Sissoko Remy have only been playing Prem league football for 6 month, one of which has only just came in to the side. Anita has just started to find his feet in a new system, the team as a whole has only really played two matches together, this isn't a settled side by any means of the imagination. We've been trying to implement a new playing style in a formation that was successful in the past. And how long has Pardew been here you absolute spackard New players conform to the team and the managers visions - and if they dont well then they have failed to make the jump to the PL. Going on the fourth season now with no style or identity - Gelling my arse. So new players should just come into a side and blend straight in without being given time to adapt. Are you one of these where it's only a game of football so if you can play well in France/Spain/Germany or wherever you come from, you can play just as well in England straight away? Ridiculous, give players time ffs. Not all come in and adapt straight away, some do, some don’t. Fact of the matter is, we are trying out a new style of football after the failings of last season, at least it’s something different regardless if our games have been hit and miss so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I've heard Pardew is shit. Just a rumour, like. Apparently people been talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 A new style of fotball you say.... and what shall we call it this time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We are in a sort of transition period if you like this season, we are trying something new, just need to stick with it, the side is still gelling together, we need to start making sure we are getting Ben Arfa/Remy in the right areas in order for them to create. Ben Arfa had a stinker on Sat, these things can happen. I'm sure we will have learnt a lot from that defeat on Saturday and looked at areas where we need to improve and hopefully we will be a lot tighter against everton and concentration levels of a higher order. It’s not a time now to be making drastic changes to the side or management. Still gelling together after 3 years Its gonna be World War III by the time Pardew figures out how to construct a slick passing side.. 3 years together? You serious or just a complete tard? Debuchy MYM Sissoko Remy have only been playing Prem league football for 6 month, one of which has only just came in to the side. Anita has just started to find his feet in a new system, the team as a whole has only really played two matches together, this isn't a settled side by any means of the imagination. We've been trying to implement a new playing style in a formation that was successful in the past. And how long has Pardew been here you absolute spackard New players conform to the team and the managers visions - and if they dont well then they have failed to make the jump to the PL. Going on the fourth season now with no style or identity - Gelling my arse. Try wax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 A new style of fotball you say.... and what shall we call it this time? Does it need a brand name like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What was that name that he gave our style of football again? Front foot something. What a fucking flute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forollhogna Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What was that name that he gave our style of football again? Front foot something. What a f***ing flute. A fast-paced brand of front-foot football.. or something to that effect...what does that even mean.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What was that name that he gave our style of football again? Front foot something. What a f***ing flute. A fast-paced brand of front-foot football.. or something to that effect...what does that even mean.. Means I'm Alan Pardew I don't know what I'm doing but I'll say anything that sounds good to lead people into believing otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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