tmonkey Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 If we stay up and Pardew goes, I do hope we get the right man in irrespective of Premiership experience. Look at this list of permanent appointments we've made based on Premiership experience because we're afraid that managers who don't "know" this league might not do well: - Dalglish - Gullitt - Souness - Roeder - Allardyce - Kinnear - Pardew Compared to this (no experience of managing in the Premiership): - Keegan - Bobby Robson - Chris Hughton This squad we have is easily the best since the Sir Bobby era in terms of talent. The right manager could work wonders with it by simply getting them back to basics, passing and moving, attacking as a unit, showing for each other, etc etc, as opposed to rigidly staying in position and eventually lumping it in behind Cisse with blind hope. Any manager capable of "coaching" talented players would be a major improvement and would comfortably have this lot in the top half of the table at the very least. Keegan and Bobby had plenty of experience at the very top level of English football. Hughton, as well as we did for him in the Championship, doesn't really belong there. So basically you want someone with either playing or managerial experience in the Premiership - why? I assume it's somehow tied in with you thinking that this squad we have is relatively mediocre? FWIW Wenger had neither playing nor managing experience in England when he was appointed. Nor did Jose Mourinho, or Rafa Benitez (who I think you've said you want), or Gerrard Houllier (half a decade or more ago and lots of folk on here were wanting him). Pochettino and Laudrup have had zilch to do with the UK too. Would it really be that bad if we were to broaden the scope to beyond these shores, like other, more progresive clubs do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I want someone who basically knows the league and how to succeed in it. I'd rather not stage a repeat of the Juande Ramos situation, minus the LC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 We just need a manager with a football brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I f***ing disagree. At least the devil has a working system. He loves crosses and hoofs too much to be the devil's incarnate. But he's also very horny isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Laudrup could be a good call. Swansea were already playing more or less like that before he arrived, but I assume he has the same philosophy as Rodgers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Laudrup could be a good call. Swansea were already playing more or less like that before he arrived, but I assume he has the same philosophy as Rodgers. He made Swansea a little more direct and narrowed the the forward three. The tempo was increased to catch teams out with pace and fast passing and less sideways stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I want someone who basically knows the league and how to succeed in it. I'd rather not stage a repeat of the Juande Ramos situation, minus the LC. Wenger, AVB (Not going to take Chelsea's kneejerk into consideration), Moyes, Ferguson, Laudrup, etc.. Plenty of examples of managers with no PL experience doing well . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I want someone who basically knows the league and how to succeed in it. I'd rather not stage a repeat of the Juande Ramos situation, minus the LC. Wenger, AVB (Not going to take Chelsea's kneejerk into consideration), Moyes, Ferguson, Laudrup, etc.. Plenty of examples of managers with no PL experience doing well . WENGER CAMe FROM JAPAN as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I want someone who basically knows the league and how to succeed in it. I'd rather not stage a repeat of the Juande Ramos situation, minus the LC. Wenger, AVB (Not going to take Chelsea's kneejerk into consideration), Moyes, Ferguson, Laudrup, etc.. Plenty of examples of managers with no PL experience doing well . Ferguson and Moyes knew English football very well, it's safe to assume. Especially Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Pards is doing it backwards - you adjust the system to the players not the players to the system. [/manegement101] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Laudrup could be a good call. Swansea were already playing more or less like that before he arrived, but I assume he has the same philosophy as Rodgers. He made Swansea a little more direct and narrowed the the forward three. The tempo was increased to catch teams out with pace and fast passing and less sideways stuff. Thats true, I saw us play them away I think it was last year and they just went side to side across the field. It looked nice but not much end result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What managers in the lower leagues have developed a reputation for attacking, passing football with good results on a shoestring budget? That's the kind of manager we'd be going for if Pardew was to be binned. Same principle as the players we buy; hoping to strike it lucky on the cheap with someone hungry to come here and prove themselves at low financial risk. Even if I was convinced in the slightest that Pardew's job is at risk, talk of Benitez, Moyes and the likes is mental IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What managers in the lower leagues have developed a reputation for attacking, passing football with good results on a shoestring budget? That's the kind of manager we'd be going for if Pardew was to be binned. Same principle as the players we buy; hoping to strike it lucky on the cheap with someone hungry to come here and prove themselves at low financial risk. Even if I was convinced in the slightest that Pardew's job is at risk, talk of Benitez, Moyes and the likes is mental IMO. Think this is the ideal. A hungry youngish manager who wants the game played on the deck with a bit of style. There are a few mentioned earlier in the thread somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It'd be Poyet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What managers in the lower leagues have developed a reputation for attacking, passing football with good results on a shoestring budget? That's the kind of manager we'd be going for if Pardew was to be binned. Same principle as the players we buy; hoping to strike it lucky on the cheap with someone hungry to come here and prove themselves at low financial risk. Even if I was convinced in the slightest that Pardew's job is at risk, talk of Benitez, Moyes and the likes is mental IMO. Wishful thinking.... you always hope but I agree unless Ashley gets fed up no way is Dekka firing his buddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 That's how we've got Pardew in the first place mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What style is Clarky playing at Brum? He has them moving up the league pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 No thanks. In 10 years maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Im thinking 1) Young 2) Cheap 3) Would come Once you filter out most people using the above, who would be left??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 What managers in the lower leagues have developed a reputation for attacking, passing football with good results on a shoestring budget? That's the kind of manager we'd be going for if Pardew was to be binned. Same principle as the players we buy; hoping to strike it lucky on the cheap with someone hungry to come here and prove themselves at low financial risk. Even if I was convinced in the slightest that Pardew's job is at risk, talk of Benitez, Moyes and the likes is mental IMO. Poyet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Plagiarist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Im thinking 1) Young 2) Cheap 3) Would come Once you filter out most people using the above, who would be left??? Me, get in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Im thinking 1) Young 2) Cheap 3) Would come Once you filter out most people using the above, who would be left??? Me, get in! Suppose 2 out of 3 ain't bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 You're far from young, you fucking fraud. Cajew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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