Robster Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 More chance of it being Graham Carr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Won't be long at this rate before people get their wish of Pardew sacked and JFK put in charge. There's no scouting needed on a new manager when ours is already at the club waiting for his chance, got to be fairly deluded to think we'll upgrade once Pardew goes. We are f***ed under this regime like, which is a shame considering the talent they've brought to the club but won't pay someone good money to manage them. How many people actually want Kinnear as manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Won't be long at this rate before people get their wish of Pardew sacked and JFK put in charge. There's no scouting needed on a new manager when ours is already at the club waiting for his chance, got to be fairly deluded to think we'll upgrade once Pardew goes. We are f***ed under this regime like, which is a shame considering the talent they've brought to the club but won't pay someone good money to manage them. How many people actually want Kinnear as manager? I don't know, probably very few i would imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 If Ashley had someone lined up of any decent standard, Pardew would be gone by now imo, the fact he's still here tells me he's just a sitting duck for Kinnear and Pardew probably knows it himself. Ashley doesn't know what a decent standard is.....that's why your mate is in the job in the first place. Ashley obviously doesn't bother to look at prospective employees' CVs either... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 stopped reading at the part where it said Steve Wraith was an 'influential fan'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 There's an international break coming up soon isn't there? That's traditionally when bad things happen at NUFC under the coward Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Keeping getting texts from all over the country saying "has Pardew been sacked?". Apparently rumours evrywhere, have there been any developments aside from that awful mirror article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Keeping getting texts from all over the country saying "has Pardew been sacked?". Apparently rumours evrywhere, have there been any developments aside from that awful mirror article? Only in our wildest dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 stopped reading at the part where it said Steve Wraith was an 'influential fan'. me too mutterings of a jumped up gobshite "spokesperson for the fans" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The thing with firing AP is the risk factor of who or what comes next. I think the absolute best case scenario is an untested foreign manager, which is a risk in itself. I can't see anyone with any Premiership experience or gravitas wanting to work under JFK/MA. - Worst Case = JFK - JFK Friend/Choice - Lower league unknown - Lower league known (Pardew Lite) - Ex-Player who fancies a go at management - Experienced Freebie (Poyet/RDM etc) - Best Case = Untried Foreign Manager whose achieved something elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Worst case scenario is keeping Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Heard these Pardew's getting sacked rumours before. Really cant see Ashley doing it unless its some mutual thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Worst case scenario is keeping Pardew. I'd rather keep Pardew than have JFK in charge. There. I said it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Maybe Pardew and Kinnear could agree mutual death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deputy Dawg UK Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Maybe Pardew and Kinnear could agree mutual death. we can all hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The thing with firing AP is the risk factor of who or what comes next. I think the absolute best case scenario is an untested foreign manager, which is a risk in itself. I can't see anyone with any Premiership experience or gravitas wanting to work under JFK/MA. - Worst Case = JFK - JFK Friend/Choice - Lower league unknown - Lower league known (Pardew Lite) - Ex-Player who fancies a go at management - Experienced Freebie (Poyet/RDM etc) - Best Case = Untried Foreign Manager whose achieved something elsewhere Would take Di Matteo asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Poyet or RDM would do. Still think it is inevitable JFK will get the poisoned chalice that is the Newcastle manager's job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The thing with firing AP is the risk factor of who or what comes next. I think the absolute best case scenario is an untested foreign manager, which is a risk in itself. I can't see anyone with any Premiership experience or gravitas wanting to work under JFK/MA. - Worst Case = JFK - JFK Friend/Choice - Lower league unknown - Lower league known (Pardew Lite) - Ex-Player who fancies a go at management - Experienced Freebie (Poyet/RDM etc) - Best Case = Untried Foreign Manager whose achieved something elsewhere Would take Di Matteo asap. You see, for me, I'd prefer to take a punt of a foreign manager on the off chance they turn out to be decent. I'm not sure RDM or GP are going to take us significantly further forward. Are they capable of changing cultures? Of embedding an ethos and style throughout a side? I'm not sure they are. I'm not sure anybody that's readily available is to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The thing with firing AP is the risk factor of who or what comes next. I think the absolute best case scenario is an untested foreign manager, which is a risk in itself. I can't see anyone with any Premiership experience or gravitas wanting to work under JFK/MA. - Worst Case = JFK - JFK Friend/Choice - Lower league unknown - Lower league known (Pardew Lite) - Ex-Player who fancies a go at management - Experienced Freebie (Poyet/RDM etc) - Best Case = Untried Foreign Manager whose achieved something elsewhere Would take Di Matteo asap. You see, for me, I'd prefer to take a punt of a foreign manager on the off chance they turn out to be decent. I'm not sure RDM or GP are going to take us significantly further forward. Are they capable of changing cultures? Of embedding an ethos and style throughout a side? I'm not sure they are. I'm not sure anybody that's readily available is to be honest. More capable than Pardew. Pardew has no reached his ceiling he struck the lottery when he was gifted our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The thing with firing AP is the risk factor of who or what comes next. I think the absolute best case scenario is an untested foreign manager, which is a risk in itself. I can't see anyone with any Premiership experience or gravitas wanting to work under JFK/MA. - Worst Case = JFK - JFK Friend/Choice - Lower league unknown - Lower league known (Pardew Lite) - Ex-Player who fancies a go at management - Experienced Freebie (Poyet/RDM etc) - Best Case = Untried Foreign Manager whose achieved something elsewhere Would take Di Matteo asap. You see, for me, I'd prefer to take a punt of a foreign manager on the off chance they turn out to be decent. I'm not sure RDM or GP are going to take us significantly further forward. Are they capable of changing cultures? Of embedding an ethos and style throughout a side? I'm not sure they are. I'm not sure anybody that's readily available is to be honest. More capable than Pardew. Pardew has no reached his ceiling he struck the lottery when he was gifted our club. Agree that he struck gold but I really don't have any confidence that the other options out there are significantly better. It's a bit of a vicious circle this though because who, with any real talent, would align themselves to our shite ownership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We need someone proven, although we never will get that. We've had shite sub standard managers for years and we wonder why we suffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 As unrealistic as it sounds id cry of happiness if we got Bielsa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Di Matteo is significantly better, his Chelsea played good football ( once he got the job the CL run style was turgid obv) and they were still in the title race before he got the boot. I'd take him all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We need someone proven, although we never will get that. We've had shite sub standard managers for years and we wonder why we suffer. I don't see anybody who is proven to be good coming to work for JFK. It's an oxymoron. Forget it, it's not going to happen. That's why I think the most likely 'best case' is an unknown foreigner, another Ashley gamble. It's obviously more likely to be a Poyet or Di Matteo, of course, but to me that wouldn't be the best outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I suppose, another way of looking at this, is to ask yourself who would you be gutted that the Mackems appointed? Of those realistically available to both clubs, who would you be pissed off that they appointed first or ahead of us? There's nobody for me because even Poyet or RdM is a risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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