Manchester United

[Froggy]

 

4 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

How about this for a stat, in the 100 or so league games he’s played in Europe, he’s never scored a goal. That’s Vurnon Anita Gavin McCann levels of nothingness. That’s who’ve you’ve signed.   

 

Do you ask your postman to fix your car like? 

[Astroblack]

1 minute ago, Froggy said:

 

 

Do you ask your postman to fix your car like? 

In the City game, the ball dropped(incidentally)to him and he showed some lovely bit of control and pass it out to Bruno and Martinez and score the winner. Cool. BUT when you’re in possession and your three centrebacks are passing the ball around to each other, this man will NEVER step outside of his comfort zone to show for the ball. It’s just the type of player I really don’t like. Glad you have him. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

6 hours ago, Astroblack said:

How about this for a stat, in the 100 or so league games he’s played in Europe, he’s never scored a goal. That’s Vurnon Anita Gavin McCann levels of nothingness. That’s who’ve you’ve signed.   

Give it time son 

[Froggy]

1 hour ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Give it time son 

 

Not for this one. I wouldn't be waiting for an extremely defensive midfielder to be scoring goals, son. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

44 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

Not for this one. I wouldn't be waiting for an extremely defensive midfielder to be scoring goals, son. 

K son. 

[Froggy]

7 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

K son. 

 

[Erikse]

@Froggy is probably the best jinxer I have ever seen, so judging by the comments here Ugarte will turn out to be another flop sitting on the bench.

[Dokko]

2 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Not for this one. I wouldn't be waiting for an extremely defensive midfielder to be scoring goals, son. 

 

Nice clean sheet for him yesterday.

[jack j]

When you listen to the likes of neville and keane they reckon a full overhaul is needed especially with Amorims 3-4-3 system. Probably count on one hand the amount of players they'd keep

 

Surely with psr rules they won't be able to spend another billion for a long time?

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by jack j

[Froggy]

19 minutes ago, Erikse said:

@Froggy is probably the best jinxer I have ever seen, so judging by the comments here Ugarte will turn out to be another flop sitting on the bench.

 

I am a good jinx.

 

There's no way this year you finish 5th and then we win the Europa League. No way that happens.

[alexf]

Dunno if some are just piling on for fun or if they really mean it? But you can't be judging their manager on the first few games. Clearly he has a system he prefers and has worked well for him elsewhere. He's obviously seeing what players fit that and which he will need to replace. 

 

Granted EtH was supposed to be the same but he seemed to quickly abandon his philosophies and Man U had no style or direction under his whole tenure. If the new guy abandons his also, then they are in massive trouble. 

 

But like I mentioned earlier, took Howe a little while to get things going here and he had far less to work with than Amorim has, plus they can still buy their way out of trouble, so I don't expect them to be this awful for much of longer. Although surely revenues will eventually come down one day eventually for them if onfield doesn't improve?

 

You know they are going to be way more up for a game against us than Bournemouth, no disrespect to Bournemouth but Man U arrogance seems to carry through generations, even though this current team should have actually been underdogs to Bournemouth on this season's showing so far. 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by alexf

[Cronky]

I think when Ratcliffe picked Amorim it was a supporter's choice rather than a professional's. He was acting on the dream of landing the next Mourinho or Guardiola, rather than looking for someone of more relevant experience.

 

More than once, Amorim has looked the picture of despair on the touchline. Surely he's got to put on a more positive face in public.

 

He seems to have tied himself in verbal knots over the Rashford / Garnacho situation, claiming that they haven't been dropped for disciplinary reasons when they clearly have. It's ended up with Rashford saying he wants to go and Amorim saying he wants him to stay, despite the fact that Man U would be well rid of him. 

 

I'm not sure why he picked on Garnacho, who, from what I've seen, gives his all and is a talent worth nurturing. He may have lost him now.

 

Amorim seems a nice guy in a role which needed a bit of a bastard. He seems to be oscillating between the two.

[Ronson333]

1 minute ago, Cronky said:

I think when Ratcliffe picked Amorim it was a supporter's choice rather than a professional's. He was acting on the dream of landing the next Mourinho or Guardiola, rather than looking for someone of more relevant experience.

 

More than once, Amorim has looked the picture of despair on the touchline. Surely he's got to put on a more positive face in public.

 

He seems to have tied himself in verbal knots over the Rashford / Garnacho situation, claiming that they haven't been dropped for disciplinary reasons when they clearly have. It's ended up with Rashford saying he wants to go and Amorim saying he wants him to stay, despite the fact that Man U would be well rid of him. 

 

I'm not sure why he picked on Garnacho, who, from what I've seen, gives his all and is a talent worth nurturing. He may have lost him now.

 

Amorim seems a nice guy in a role which needed a bit of a bastard. He seems to be oscillating between the two.

Garnacho’s brother has apparently been leaking team line-ups

[Groundhog63]

3 minutes ago, Ronson333 said:

Garnacho’s brother has apparently been leaking team line-ups

Ryan Giggs' brother used to leak when he was going out for the day. Ryan never got dropped. 

[mouldy_uk]

3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Ryan Giggs' brother used to leak when he was going out for the day. Ryan never got dropped. 

Didn’t Ryan used to leak into his brother’s wife?

 

[Froggy]

2 hours ago, Cronky said:

More than once, Amorim has looked the picture of despair on the touchline. Surely he's got to put on a more positive face in public.

 

Why? He doesn't shy away from performances. He's honest and says we play well when we play well, and when we're shit he's say we're shit. It was one of the things I hated most about Ten Hag. We would win a game 1-0 from a moment of brilliance, but concede 20+ shots and be completely outplayed for 85 minutes and he'd say we deserved to win and that we'd be in a title race if Garnacho wasn't offside in a game that was 4 months ago.

 

2 hours ago, Cronky said:

He seems to have tied himself in verbal knots over the Rashford / Garnacho situation, claiming that they haven't been dropped for disciplinary reasons when they clearly have. It's ended up with Rashford saying he wants to go and Amorim saying he wants him to stay, despite the fact that Man U would be well rid of him. 

 

Would you want him to publicly throw players under the bus? Especially if we're looking to sell a high PSR asset such as Rashford. I feel like publicly attacking him would be bad for everyone involved, and would come under more criticism from everybody else.

 

2 hours ago, Cronky said:

I'm not sure why he picked on Garnacho, who, from what I've seen, gives his all and is a talent worth nurturing. He may have lost him now.

 

Garnacho was heavily rumoured to be leaking lineups. He was also liking posts on social media critcising his own teammates, which is completely unacceptable. 

 

Despite this, he's obviously put his head down and he's went straight back into the squad. 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Froggy

[El Prontonise]

Amorim is just proving how utterly average Man Utd are.

 

Rashford got away with so much under previous managers.

[Decky]

I think Amorim will have the misfortune of struggling through this season, with a minor improvement in January probably. But when he is able to build his own squad properly I think he'll do well there because he plays a good style of football, its just that this Man Utd squad is seriously lacking in quality. 

 

I know they've a lot more revenue than us but it'll be fairly annoying watching them fund yet another spending spree while we can't spend a penny. 

[Froggy]

3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

Amorim is just proving how utterly average Man Utd are.

 

Rashford got away with so much under previous managers.

 

100%. Looks like he's not getting away with it with Amorim. 

 

[David Edgar]

Ugarte is a world class midfielder who Manchester United should build around. Him and Maguire. For life. Two absolute hackers.

[Froggy]

2 minutes ago, David Edgar said:

Ugarte is a world class midfielder who Manchester United should build around. Him and Maguire. For life. Two absolute hackers.

 

 

Fairly decent stats for a CDM right?  @bobbydazzla some stats for you.

[Dokko]

Only way manure grt back to the very top is a complete overhaul of the squad and with them sailing so close to psr, that isn't going to happen for 2 or 3 years. 

 

Be ironic if the very cunts the PL are trying to protect need the rules to dissappear. Theyve already bent them as far as thry can go with special allowances. 

 

The manure job is more about character than talent, especially in its current form. I don't think RA has the character they are looking for and that may be why it doesn't work out for him. You need that us vs the world approach, just seems since he's come in he's divided the camp more than anything.

[Froggy]

It would appear opposition fans have a very different view of Amorim that we have. He's the perfect character for the job. Whether he has the talent or not remains to be seen, but he hasn't uttered a single word out of place so far despite the immense scrutiny that comes with the role.

 

I don't think the squad needs as much as people think either, and it's very young. Would hope we can get rid of Shaw, Rashford, Antony, Casemiro and Eriksen in the next 6-7 months to free up some pocket money and invest in players suited to Amorim's system, starting with a LWB.

[Erikse]

29 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

 

Fairly decent stats for a CDM right?  @bobbydazzla some stats for you.

 

It makes sense that he has to make a lot of tackles when he plays for you guys. He's also top 1% for "attempted tackles"?

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Erikse

[Froggy]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

It makes sense that he has to make a lot of tackles when he plays for you guys. He's also top 1% for "attempted tackles"?

 

Okay so what about last season?

 

Manuel Ugarte's total of 98 tackles was the highest by anyone in Ligue 1 last season; and he managed it despite starting only 21 games out of 34, for a team, in Paris Saint-Germain, who spent roughly 66 per cent of the time in possession.