Guest firetotheworks Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Why wouldn't anyone buy Gareth Bale when he nearly went on loan to Nottingham Forest? Your point means less than using your own eyes and using your own judgement on a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You're comparing him to a young Welsh left back who went on to be the most expensive player in World Football. Makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We got Demba Ba from free with our only rivals for his signature being Everton. Cabaye for £5m with seemingly no one else interested. Sissoko for little over £1m and had we waited we also could have gotten him for free because nobody else was seemingly interested. The same with Gouffran. It happens all the time, just because a player is available doesn't mean everyone comes flocking for his signature, and if they don't it certainly doesn't mean they're shite. That's utterly bizarre. EDIT: These players weren't being mismanaged either, they weren't shunted out with the stiffs, they were in the shop window and we still managed to get them for a criminally low price, in some cases after 2 or 3 windows of pursuing them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You're comparing him to a young Welsh left back who went on to be the most expensive player in World Football. Makes sense. He wasn't the worlds most expensive player then, you absolute spelk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We got Demba Ba from free with our only rivals for his signature being Everton. Cabaye for £5m with seemingly no one else interested. Sissoko for little over £1m and had we waited we also could have gotten him for free because nobody else was seemingly interested. The same with Gouffran. It happens all the time, just because a player is available doesn't mean everyone comes flocking for his signature, and if they don't it certainly doesn't mean they're s****. That's utterly bizarre. Then what happened? They were quality players who moved on. Sissoko will no doubt move sooner rather than later for £10m etc, Ba wasn't free by the way - he had a significant signing on fee. Gouffran is probably a good example actually - a player available at 28, without any great ability who we snapped up cheap. Marv is average or below average and the rest of his career will reflect this when he signs for a mid table ligue 1 team and he probably wont make the team there either. He was a free transfer who didn't work out. Get over it lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 You're comparing him to a young Welsh left back who went on to be the most expensive player in World Football. Makes sense. How much was he worth then? Honestly man. Still though, my point was that your point about a players perceived worth by other clubs means less than using your own judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We got Demba Ba from free with our only rivals for his signature being Everton. Cabaye for £5m with seemingly no one else interested. Sissoko for little over £1m and had we waited we also could have gotten him for free because nobody else was seemingly interested. The same with Gouffran. It happens all the time, just because a player is available doesn't mean everyone comes flocking for his signature, and if they don't it certainly doesn't mean they're s****. That's utterly bizarre. Then what happened? They were quality players who moved on. Sissoko will no doubt move sooner rather than later for £10m etc, Ba wasn't free by the way - he had a significant signing on fee. Gouffran is probably a good example actually - a player available at 28, without any great ability who we snapped up cheap. Marv is average or below average and the rest of his career will reflect this when he signs for a mid table ligue 1 team and he probably wont make the team there either. He was a free transfer who didn't work out. Get over it lads. The only thing that we can't get over is your lack of football knowledge, or sense tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 He's one of the magical players who gets better with every game he doesn't play. He's gash lads, get over it. Suppose it's better than being like Vuckic and getting worse every game he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We got Demba Ba from free with our only rivals for his signature being Everton. Cabaye for £5m with seemingly no one else interested. Sissoko for little over £1m and had we waited we also could have gotten him for free because nobody else was seemingly interested. The same with Gouffran. It happens all the time, just because a player is available doesn't mean everyone comes flocking for his signature, and if they don't it certainly doesn't mean they're s****. That's utterly bizarre. Then what happened? They were quality players who moved on. Sissoko will no doubt move sooner rather than later for £10m etc, Ba wasn't free by the way - he had a significant signing on fee. Gouffran is probably a good example actually - a player available at 28, without any great ability who we snapped up cheap. Marv is average or below average and the rest of his career will reflect this when he signs for a mid table ligue 1 team and he probably wont make the team there either. He was a free transfer who didn't work out. Get over it lads. Teehee aren't you mischievous? Anyway they were quality players who moved on because they were sort of allowed to play. If you want to look at another example of a quality player who hasn't moved on due to gross mismanagement then you just need to look at Marv's compatriot Ben Arfa. Probably the most talented player we've had in a decade sitting with the stiffs and seemingly unwanted by every cunt. Get over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Heard a few rumours that Marveaux has a bad attitude. Think it's been mentioned a few times on here too. Yeah, I'd have a foul attitude too if Shola and Gosling got games ahead of me. Ever notice that none of these rumours malign the manager in any way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Didn't realise we had reserves for them to train with. Or was it just Marv, Hatem and Obertan having a game of piggy in the middle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 We got Demba Ba from free with our only rivals for his signature being Everton. Cabaye for £5m with seemingly no one else interested. Sissoko for little over £1m and had we waited we also could have gotten him for free because nobody else was seemingly interested. The same with Gouffran. It happens all the time, just because a player is available doesn't mean everyone comes flocking for his signature, and if they don't it certainly doesn't mean they're s****. That's utterly bizarre. Then what happened? They were quality players who moved on. Sissoko will no doubt move sooner rather than later for £10m etc, Ba wasn't free by the way - he had a significant signing on fee. Gouffran is probably a good example actually - a player available at 28, without any great ability who we snapped up cheap. Marv is average or below average and the rest of his career will reflect this when he signs for a mid table ligue 1 team and he probably wont make the team there either. He was a free transfer who didn't work out. Get over it lads. Teehee aren't you mischievous? Anyway they were quality players who moved on because they were sort of allowed to play. If you want to look at another example of a quality player who hasn't moved on due to gross mismanagement then you just need to look at Marv's compatriot Ben Arfa. Probably the most talented player we've had in a decade sitting with the stiffs and seemingly unwanted by every c***. Get over it. He's not a tenth of the player Ben Arfa is man - that's what you're struggling to comprehend. I imagine Ben Arfa isn't moving on because he chinned Pardew in the face - or spent half the season clinically obese. One of them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 So embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The only thing I'm struggling to comprehend is your constantly tedious patter. Marveoux isn't a patch on Ben Arfa, he's not a patch on Demba Ba or Cabaye either, he's by no means a great footballer. He is however better than Dan Gosling and Shola Ameobi who he was constantly overlooked for due to his tendency to "go missing" in between his match winning performances. He's very talented with the ball at his feet, he's weak as piss and doesn't have an ounce of graft in him though so he's finished here under this moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The only thing I'm struggling to comprehend is your constantly tedious patter. Marveoux isn't a patch on Ben Arfa, he's not a patch on Demba Ba or Cabaye either, he's by no means a great footballer. He is however better than Dan Gosling and Shola Ameobi who he was constantly overlooked for due to his tendency to "go missing" in between his match winning performances. He's very talented with the ball at his feet, he's weak as p*ss and doesn't have an ounce of graft in him though so he's finished here under this moron. So why fawn over such mediocrity? That's what's embarrassing. He might flatter to deceive for ten minutes or so but he has no place in a Premier League team. A glimpse or two isn't good enough & I'll be glad to see the back of him. A fit & motivated HBA or any of the departed players who you mentioned before would massively influence a season - Marv is nowhere near being that player and never will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Marv managed to top our assists chart despite playing maybe 10 games in the 2012/2013 season, did it not occur to you that he might contribute a bit more than the average NUFC player if he played regularly? Fine, he somehow managed 36 appearances, can't be many full games though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The only thing I'm struggling to comprehend is your constantly tedious patter. Marveoux isn't a patch on Ben Arfa, he's not a patch on Demba Ba or Cabaye either, he's by no means a great footballer. He is however better than Dan Gosling and Shola Ameobi who he was constantly overlooked for due to his tendency to "go missing" in between his match winning performances. He's very talented with the ball at his feet, he's weak as p*ss and doesn't have an ounce of graft in him though so he's finished here under this moron. So why fawn over such mediocrity? That's what's embarrassing. He might flatter to deceive for ten minutes or so but he has no place in a Premier League team. A glimpse or two isn't good enough & I'll be glad to see the back of him. A fit & motivated HBA or any of the departed players who you mentioned before would massively influence a season - Marv is nowhere near being that player and never will be. Apart from the season he got the most assists for us of course? But that doesn't fit your tedious narrative I remember a season when an old, obese, shot, John Barnes was our joint top scorer - on 7. Just as meaningless really - two shite seasons. (europe aside) Marveux played 36 games overall that season - many off the bench but that's when he should be making an impact - and what did he return, 5 or 6 assists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 This guy is the absolute worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Grandpa_bfaf78_777622.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 5 or 6 assists from the bench is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'd argue Marveaux is the best "playmaker" in the squad. His technique on the ball, his vision and his passing are better than anyone else's in the squad. Apart from Hatem of course. I know The King has successfully brainwashed some people but low work rate and lack of defensive application doesn't render a creative player useless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 The only thing I'm struggling to comprehend is your constantly tedious patter. Marveoux isn't a patch on Ben Arfa, he's not a patch on Demba Ba or Cabaye either, he's by no means a great footballer. He is however better than Dan Gosling and Shola Ameobi who he was constantly overlooked for due to his tendency to "go missing" in between his match winning performances. He's very talented with the ball at his feet, he's weak as p*ss and doesn't have an ounce of graft in him though so he's finished here under this moron. So why fawn over such mediocrity? That's what's embarrassing. He might flatter to deceive for ten minutes or so but he has no place in a Premier League team. A glimpse or two isn't good enough & I'll be glad to see the back of him. A fit & motivated HBA or any of the departed players who you mentioned before would massively influence a season - Marv is nowhere near being that player and never will be. Apart from the season he got the most assists for us of course? But that doesn't fit your tedious narrative I remember a season when an old, obese, shot, John Barnes was our joint top scorer - on 7. Just as meaningless really - two s**** seasons. (europe aside) Marveux played 36 games overall that season - many off the bench but that's when he should be making an impact - and what did he return, 5 or 6 assists? you said he has no place in a premier league team. I conclusively proved that he does. Even in an awful one, he produced, given game time. You won't accept it because it doesn't fit your ridiculous assertion that he's "gash". As for people fawning over mediocrity, I find that highly ironic coming from the bloke who defended pardew on here Don't flatter yourself kid. Anyway - watch what happens with Marveaux and get back to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 No one's even fawning either, unless you consider having the opinion that there's more value in him playing ahead of Gosling, Shola and Obertan as fawning. I don't, personally. I'd call it having eyes that are connected to your brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 It feels unfair and harsh on the real Vuckic that i don't like him anymore and want him injured... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 No one's even fawning either, unless you consider there being more value in him than Gosling, Shola and Obertan as fawning. I don't, personally. I'd call it having eyes that are connected to your brain. Fawning - displaying exaggerated flattery or affection; obsequious. Balance the attitude on here against the relative ability of the player & you'll find that's exactly what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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