2014 FIFA World Cup Brasil™ - Germany win again

[Flip]

I think the over the top focus on Neymar did hurt them tbh Flip.

 

They basically went out there trying to emotion their way to victory and when it didn't go their way they blacked out and shipped 4 goals in the space of 11 seconds (approx.)

 

There was no way they should have been playing so gung-ho, it was footballing suicide.

 

Sorry you had your own Superbowl moment, I'm very familiar with that feel bro.

 

Fair enough if that's your opinion, we were better until they scored the first, after that we lost it. 

 

And yeah, that feeling is terrible. Appreciate the sympathy, you've always been a classact Shak, compared to Dan

[TaylorJ_01]

http://i.imgur.com/MOc3lPK.png

 

Look at those names, man. Cuthbert Ottaway, Arnold Kirke-Smith, John Brockbank. Can almost smell the tweed.

 

Taylor.J at full back for Scotland

 

get in.

 

Cuthbert Ottaway, everyone

 

Ottaway read Classics at Brasenose,[2] and, after going down, trained as a barrister and was called to the bar in 1873. He married, in August 1877, Marion Stinson of Hamilton, Ontario – whom he met, when she was just 13, while touring Canada with an England cricket team[7][8] – and practised law until his death, in London, as a result of complications from a chill caught in the course of a night's dancing.[9] The precise cause of death remains a matter of speculation. Diabetes ran in the Ottaway family, and this may have increased his susceptibility to respiratory diseases. It is also possible that he had earlier contracted tuberculosis.

 

was a different time

[Kanj]

I was just shocked by the lack of shape, discipline, or tactics/adjustments by Brazil. Nothing was working, and there didn't seem a bit of clue how to get out of it. Soon as it went 1-0 down and the quick 2-0 it was curtains. Felt like watching Newcastle play, the defeated before they enter the pitch type meltdown.

 

I feel for Flip, I also feel for Brazil, I feel for myself having to not get a chance to enjoy a top football match. I also respect the fuck out of Germany for their ability to punish Brazil on every mistake they made in those 6 minutes. Whether it was a a Brazil lay-down or a German execution story is really up for debate -- what I saw last night was just an awful football match in terms of neutral, a master class of execution (many times you see teams not capitalize in those positions) by the Germans, and a poor showing and embarrassment by Brazil and their entire 23 not named Neymar last night.

[SEMTEX]

I think the over the top focus on Neymar did hurt them tbh Flip.

 

They basically went out there trying to emotion their way to victory and when it didn't go their way they blacked out and shipped 4 goals in the space of 11 seconds (approx.)

 

There was no way they should have been playing so gung-ho, it was footballing suicide.

 

Sorry you had your own Superbowl moment, I'm very familiar with that feel bro.

 

Fair enough if that's your opinion, we were better until they scored the first, after that we lost it. 

 

And yeah, that feeling is terrible. Appreciate the sympathy, you've always been a classact Shak, compared to Dan

 

7-1 haha

[Unbelievable]

I think the over the top focus on Neymar did hurt them tbh Flip.

 

They basically went out there trying to emotion their way to victory and when it didn't go their way they blacked out and shipped 4 goals in the space of 11 seconds (approx.)

 

There was no way they should have been playing so gung-ho, it was footballing suicide.

 

Sorry you had your own Superbowl moment, I'm very familiar with that feel bro.

 

Fair enough if that's your opinion, we were better until they scored the first, after that we lost it. 

 

And yeah, that feeling is terrible. Appreciate the sympathy, you've always been a classact Shak, compared to Dan

 

Sorry, but that's just plain wrong.

[Flip]

I was just shocked by the lack of shape, discipline, or tactics/adjustments by Brazil. Nothing was working, and there didn't seem a bit of clue how to get out of it. Soon as it went 1-0 down and the quick 2-0 it was curtains. Felt like watching Newcastle play, the defeated before they enter the pitch type meltdown.

 

I feel for Flip, I also feel for Brazil, I feel for myself having to not get a chance to enjoy a top football match. I also respect the f*** out of Germany for their ability to punish Brazil on every mistake they made in those 6 minutes. Whether it was a a Brazil lay-down or a German execution story is really up for debate -- what I saw last night was just an awful football match in terms of neutral, a master class of execution (many times you see teams not capitalize in those positions) by the Germans, and a poor showing and embarrassment by Brazil and their entire 23 not named Neymar last night.

 

Although Thiago Silva saved face by casually being suspended for this game. Probably knew what was going to happen.

[Flip]

I think the over the top focus on Neymar did hurt them tbh Flip.

 

They basically went out there trying to emotion their way to victory and when it didn't go their way they blacked out and shipped 4 goals in the space of 11 seconds (approx.)

 

There was no way they should have been playing so gung-ho, it was footballing suicide.

 

Sorry you had your own Superbowl moment, I'm very familiar with that feel bro.

 

Fair enough if that's your opinion, we were better until they scored the first, after that we lost it. 

 

And yeah, that feeling is terrible. Appreciate the sympathy, you've always been a classact Shak, compared to Dan

 

Sorry, but that's just plain wrong.

 

That's my opinion. Just re-watched the first 10minutes to see how the game really was as inside the stadium it was pure blackout for 90minutes.

[Unbelievable]

The Germans had more threathening before they scored. They had the break where Muller could have been sent clear by Klose and the blocked Khedira shot. I'd have to rewatch, but I don't remember Brazil doing anything of note until they shipped the first.

[Flip]

The Germans had more threathening before they scored. They had the break where Muller could have been sent clear by Klose and the blocked Khedira shot. I'd have to rewatch, but I don't remember Brazil doing anything of note until they shipped the first.

 

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I'll leave it at that. We were the better team for the opening minutes in my opinion. I know it's just a minute for minute update, but at least it shows I'm not PLAIN wrong.

[Kanj]

I was just shocked by the lack of shape, discipline, or tactics/adjustments by Brazil. Nothing was working, and there didn't seem a bit of clue how to get out of it. Soon as it went 1-0 down and the quick 2-0 it was curtains. Felt like watching Newcastle play, the defeated before they enter the pitch type meltdown.

 

I feel for Flip, I also feel for Brazil, I feel for myself having to not get a chance to enjoy a top football match. I also respect the f*** out of Germany for their ability to punish Brazil on every mistake they made in those 6 minutes. Whether it was a a Brazil lay-down or a German execution story is really up for debate -- what I saw last night was just an awful football match in terms of neutral, a master class of execution (many times you see teams not capitalize in those positions) by the Germans, and a poor showing and embarrassment by Brazil and their entire 23 not named Neymar last night.

 

Although Thiago Silva saved face by casually being suspended for this game. Probably knew what was going to happen.

 

Aye, forgot about Thiago - does David Luiz rely on him to organize?

[triggs]

Is this the biggest ever result in football in modern times? Not in terms of the score but in terms of surprise and in terms of how important the game itself was

[Kanj]

Second question, do PSG (Blanc) reconsider ever letting David Luiz lead the back line if Thiago is out?

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

I think most people expected Germany to win - but nobody expected Brasil to bottle it to that extent.

[Flip]

I was just shocked by the lack of shape, discipline, or tactics/adjustments by Brazil. Nothing was working, and there didn't seem a bit of clue how to get out of it. Soon as it went 1-0 down and the quick 2-0 it was curtains. Felt like watching Newcastle play, the defeated before they enter the pitch type meltdown.

 

I feel for Flip, I also feel for Brazil, I feel for myself having to not get a chance to enjoy a top football match. I also respect the f*** out of Germany for their ability to punish Brazil on every mistake they made in those 6 minutes. Whether it was a a Brazil lay-down or a German execution story is really up for debate -- what I saw last night was just an awful football match in terms of neutral, a master class of execution (many times you see teams not capitalize in those positions) by the Germans, and a poor showing and embarrassment by Brazil and their entire 23 not named Neymar last night.

 

Although Thiago Silva saved face by casually being suspended for this game. Probably knew what was going to happen.

 

Aye, forgot about Thiago - does David Luiz rely on him to organize?

 

Possibly, I don't think the game yesterday has any bearing on the qualities of the players individually, David Luiz has been excellent the whole tournament until last night. Yesterday was a freak accident. Germany would've problably won anyways, but the result is just freakish.

[Flip]

Second question, do PSG (Blanc) reconsider ever letting David Luiz lead the back line if Thiago is out?

 

Of course, why not, we've played before with him without Thiago and done good. Was all a freak accident.

[Zero]

Different perspective I would say.  What I observed was Germany was inviting Brazil to attack in order to make more effective counters.  That was Germany's tactic, and it worked --- Brazil seemed to have the control, but it was Germany which apparently had higher chance to score.

 

To be fair, Felipao, it was a no match.  It is not a shame to accept the fact that Germany outclassed Brazil in nearly EVERY position. 

[Unbelievable]

Thiago was a huge miss like, arguably more so than Neymar. I read that zonalmarking analysis and I think they got it spot on. Brazil's lack of pace allowed Germany to defend high up the pitch and saturate the midfield. Brazil on the other hand had 3 out of 4 defenders (Luiz, Maicon and Marcelo) who were more interested in going forward than in keeping it thight at the back. The Brazilians lost possession in midfield under pressure and were easily picked off on the counter as the Brazil full backs had left their stations (Marcelo being the main culprit). Scolari wants shot for not making a change or reorganising the defence until half time too.

[Flip]

Different perspective I would say.  What I observed was Germany was inviting Brazil to attack in order to make more effective counters.  That was Germany's tactic, and it worked --- Brazil seemed to have the control, but it was Germany which apparently had higher chance to score.

 

To be fair, Felipao, it was a no match.  It is not a shame to accept the fact that Germany outclassed Brazil in nearly EVERY position. 

 

They DID outclass us and they WERE better than us at EVERY position. The stadium stood up and applauded the far superior team last night, it's not like we as fans applaud anyone when we get beaten. We got beaten and beaten well and deservedly. We've not been good, I just hope the team shows what they're capable of on saturday without any pressure.

 

Thiago was a huge miss like, arguably more so than Neymar. I read that zonalmarking analysis and I think they got it spot on. Brazil's lack of pace allowed Germany to defend high up the pitch and saturate the midfield. Brazil on the other hand had 3 out of 4 defenders (Luiz, Maicon and Marcelo) who were more interested in going forward than in keeping it thight at the back. The Brazilians lost possession in midfield under pressure and were easily picked off on the counter as the Brazil full backs had left their stations (Marcelo being the main culprit). Scolari wants shot for not making a change or reorganising the defence until half time too.

 

I agree, but what can you do when you're down 5-0? Organize the defence? We played better than them early in the second half again when he put 3 central midfielders and they were unable to pass the ball as much. I had a Newcastle - Arsenal feeling for the first 10 minutes as we created two or three dangerous chances, but it was never our day and the better and probably best team in this WC beat us deservedly.

[Unbelievable]

Second question, do PSG (Blanc) reconsider ever letting David Luiz lead the back line if Thiago is out?

 

Of course, why not, we've played before with him without Thiago and done good. Was all a freak accident.

 

If that's what your football association think there is no chance you will win the 2018 World Cup, no chance. There was nothing accidental about it I'm afraid. It was a tactical shambles of the highest order.

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

gegenpressing yo!

[Guest n4e]

Pornhub pleads with users to stop uploading videos of Brazil 'getting f**ked by Germany' in the World Cup

 

In the world's continuing mission to completely humiliate Brazil in the wake of its 7-1 World Cup semi-final defeat to Germany, adult site Pornhub has allegedly been flooded with highlights of the game.

 

Footage of the goals bearing the title 'Young Brazilians get f**ked by entire German soccer team' (and other more explicit variants) quickly sprang up following the game (at least according to hundreds of screen grabs on Twiter), with the site eventually asking football fans to cease with the gag while getting a swipe in at Brazil itself.

 

"Please stop uploading the game highlights to Pornhub... Our public humiliation category is full. #BrazilvsGermany," Pornhub wrote.

[Unbelievable]

Different perspective I would say.  What I observed was Germany was inviting Brazil to attack in order to make more effective counters.  That was Germany's tactic, and it worked --- Brazil seemed to have the control, but it was Germany which apparently had higher chance to score.

 

To be fair, Felipao, it was a no match.  It is not a shame to accept the fact that Germany outclassed Brazil in nearly EVERY position. 

 

They DID outclass us and they WERE better than us at EVERY position. The stadium stood up and applauded the far superior team last night, it's not like we as fans applaud anyone when we get beaten. We got beaten and beaten well and deservedly. We've not been good, I just hope the team shows what they're capable of on saturday without any pressure.

 

Thiago was a huge miss like, arguably more so than Neymar. I read that zonalmarking analysis and I think they got it spot on. Brazil's lack of pace allowed Germany to defend high up the pitch and saturate the midfield. Brazil on the other hand had 3 out of 4 defenders (Luiz, Maicon and Marcelo) who were more interested in going forward than in keeping it thight at the back. The Brazilians lost possession in midfield under pressure and were easily picked off on the counter as the Brazil full backs had left their stations (Marcelo being the main culprit). Scolari wants shot for not making a change or reorganising the defence until half time too.

 

I agree, but what can you do when you're down 5-0? Organize the defence? We played better than them early in the second half again when he put 3 central midfielders and they were unable to pass the ball as much. I had a Newcastle - Arsenal feeling for the first 10 minutes as we created two or three dangerous chances, but it was never our day and the better and probably best team in this WC beat us deservedly.

 

After the first 10-15 minutes it should have been clear to anybody with eyes that Germany were raping you down the left. Why Scolari just sat there and didn't tell Marcelo to stay back and Gustavo to help him out more on that side before that crazy 6 minute spell I will never know. Quite interested what the general consensus in Brazil is about Scolari's tactics yesterday evening. I'm flabbergasted he hasn't handed in his resignation tbh.

[Zero]

No, Felipao, you get it wrong.  What I mean is the quality of players, not their performance.  Even with Thiago Silva and Neymar, the statement still stands - Germany is much, much stronger than Brazil.  Brazil has no more playmaker once Neymar's done, while Germany is putting a 35m rated Gotze firmly on the bench.

 

Looking back, the only way for Brazil to win was to do a "Mourinho Bus".  My question, or my point is, would you, a die hard supporter for the Yellow, accept such tactic on your home ground? 

 

Scolari "got it super wrong" by trying to overpower Germany purely by emotion and home pressure and was spectacularly backfired.  The sad thing is probably he has no choice because no one can accept Brazil to play anti-football, which I think is the only way for Brazil to win last night.

[Kanj]

I don't think you come back from that drubbing man, you can't .... unless you're the king.

[Flip]

Then again you're flabbergasted by anyone that isn't van Gaal. Scolari admitted he was wrong, we all know what went wrong, but 4 goals in 6minutes in a World Cup semi-final is always a freak accident. It was a 6minute blackout, collapse, whatever you want to call it. We could've been down by one or two and then fought us back, but the players seemed confused on the pitch, nothing was going their way and Germany just kept pounding us as we were trying to understand what was actually happening.

 

gegenpressing yo!

 

 

I wonder what happened to our intensity from the Confed, apart from 10-15minutes against Chile and Colombia we haven't actually played with intensity in this tournament which made us beat the team last year in the Confed...