LesPaul Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 http://www.thepotato.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/croke-park.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cort Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Same with Notts County and Nottingham Forest. http://mbalbert0513.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/stadiums-nottingham.jpg And Trent Bridge. http://news.experiencenottinghamshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/central-helicopters.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Any other examples of stadiums being ridiculously close to each other? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130602132832/the-football-database/images/e/eb/Borussia_Dortmund_Signal_Iduna_Park_Stadium_004.jpg Signal Iduna Park & Stadion Rote Erde (Borussia Dortmund's reserve team stadium) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Any other examples of stadiums being ridiculously close to each other? http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130602132832/the-football-database/images/e/eb/Borussia_Dortmund_Signal_Iduna_Park_Stadium_004.jpg Signal Iduna Park & Stadion Rote Erde (Borussia Dortmund's reserve team stadium) *Westfalenstadion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home. I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade. One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them. http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/uploads/6090p.jpg http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-504788.jpg http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Well, the Camp Nou and the Miniestadi (Barça B's stadium) are also pretty close. http://colgadosporelfutbol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/campnou2.jpg The two buildings in-between are the basketball arena and the ice rink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home. I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade. One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them. http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF To give him his due - and this is five or six years ago when he still cared - Lerner was apparently livid when he read about what had been done. He fished out a lot of the original features in storage from the old stand (stuff like claret and blue stained glass windows, plus old fixtures and fittings) and had them installed in the new Trinity Road stand. He also, and this is impressive and just shows what a change he has undergone, when he read about the mosaics on the old stand, tracked down the Italian company who made the original, found out that the main bloke there's great grandson was still running the family business, and employed them to recreate (reinterpret) the mosaics on the back of the Holte End: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/20/article-0-0398A296000005DC-959_468x289.jpg He also spent £4m renovating the Holte pub at the back of the Holte End. It's a lovely Jacobean imitation (ie of the stately home the other side of the park next to the ground) building which at the start of the 1900s was also used to house some of the players in the boarding rooms upstairs. Under Ellis it was derelict, boarded up and falling down for years. Lerner turned it into this: http://www.groupdyer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2047_1.jpg When I remind myself of things like that, Lerner's loss of interest looks even more stark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home. I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade. One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them. http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/uploads/6090p.jpg http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-504788.jpg http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF Yeah, that really is beautiful. We had the same thing in Newcastle, just not with our stadium. http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/RoyalArcademockup-1.jpg Demolished, despite it being listed and this being built in its place. http://manchesterhistory.net/architecture/1960/swanhouse5.jpg Also this. was torn down for this. http://newcastledailyphoto.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/pearl-assurance-house.jpg Architectural evidence that Thatcher was a bit of a shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home. I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade. One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them. http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/uploads/6090p.jpg http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-504788.jpg http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF Yeah, that really is beautiful. We had the same thing in Newcastle, just not with our stadium. http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/RoyalArcademockup-1.jpg Demolished, despite it being listed and this being built in its place. http://manchesterhistory.net/architecture/1960/swanhouse5.jpg Also this. was torn down for this. http://newcastledailyphoto.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/pearl-assurance-house.jpg Architectural evidence that Thatcher was a bit of a shit. There are some beautiful British cities ruined by shit like that from an architectural dark age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Absolutely disgusting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Love Villa Park me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 There are some beautiful British cities ruined by shit like that from an architectural dark age. Too right. This is Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. On the left is the Council House, a grade II* listed building. On the right is the Town Hall, a grade 1 listed building, built in the mid nineteenth century where everyone from Charles Dickens to Churchill spoke, where bands like Black Sabbath played some of their early gigs. http://www.britain-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/CN2FE1.jpg What used to be on the other side of this square (ie behind the person taking the picture): http://www.photobydjnorton.com/Library/Test160.jpg What is there now, built in the mid 1970s: http://www.birminghamroundabout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/birmingham_central_library.jpg Truly revolting. Being demolished at the end of the year, thank fuck. John Madin built loads of this brutalist shit over Birmingham and he outlived almost every one of them. I for one would gladly push the plunger on this one. I appreciate that lots of the post war buildings went up due to the damage the Luftwaffe did, but when I hear London luvvies getting themselves all wound up about that horrible mess getting demolished, i want to puke. It is also right in the middle of the city centre, dividing it in two. The moaners are probably the same people who, for decades, sneered at that building. Oh well, sorry, I've gone off topic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Oh my god. What the fuck happened man. Was there no objection at the time to all of these montrosities being built. I remember doing about it a little bit in Human Geography at school, but it was mainly to do with Byker Wall being the answer to the tower blocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 There are some beautiful British cities ruined by s*** like that from an architectural dark age. Too right. This is Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. On the left is the Council House, a grade II* listed building. On the right is the Town Hall, a grade 1 listed building, built in the mid nineteenth century where everyone from Charles Dickens to Churchill spoke, where bands like Black Sabbath played some of their early gigs. http://www.britain-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/CN2FE1.jpg What used to be on the other side of this square (ie behind the person taking the picture): http://www.photobydjnorton.com/Library/Test160.jpg What is there now, built in the mid 1970s: http://www.birminghamroundabout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/birmingham_central_library.jpg Truly revolting. Being demolished at the end of the year, thank f***. John Madin built loads of this brutalist s*** over Birmingham and he outlived almost every one of them. I for one would gladly push the plunger on this one. I appreciate that lots of the post war buildings went up due to the damage the Luftwaffe did, but when I hear London luvvies getting themselves all wound up about that horrible mess getting demolished, i want to puke. It is also right in the middle of the city centre, dividing it in two. The moaners are probably the same people who, for decades, sneered at that building. Oh well, sorry, I've gone off topic. (Even further off topic) I'm off to that town hall for the first time this Sunday after a session in probably the best pub in Brum (The Wellington) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (Even further off topic) I'm off to that town hall for the first time this Sunday after a session in probably the best pub in Brum (The Wellington) If you like proper beer, you need to go for a few in the Post Office Vaults and the Pure Bar, both of which are pretty much round the corner from the Wellington. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 There are some beautiful British cities ruined by shit like that from an architectural dark age. Too right. This is Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. On the left is the Council House, a grade II* listed building. On the right is the Town Hall, a grade 1 listed building, built in the mid nineteenth century where everyone from Charles Dickens to Churchill spoke, where bands like Black Sabbath played some of their early gigs. http://www.britain-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/CN2FE1.jpg What used to be on the other side of this square (ie behind the person taking the picture): http://www.photobydjnorton.com/Library/Test160.jpg What is there now, built in the mid 1970s: http://www.birminghamroundabout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/birmingham_central_library.jpg Truly revolting. Being demolished at the end of the year, thank fuck. John Madin built loads of this brutalist shit over Birmingham and he outlived almost every one of them. I for one would gladly push the plunger on this one. I appreciate that lots of the post war buildings went up due to the damage the Luftwaffe did, but when I hear London luvvies getting themselves all wound up about that horrible mess getting demolished, i want to puke. It is also right in the middle of the city centre, dividing it in two. The moaners are probably the same people who, for decades, sneered at that building. Oh well, sorry, I've gone off topic. Wait so that library in the second picture is gone? Horrible if so! We need a "old buildings that look good and that" in GC I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 The best pubs in Brum are round that area (For beer). shame I only discovered this a few years ago. (Edit: I`ll give them both a try!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Birmingham definitely exceeds expectations. I went there sort of apprehensively because of its reputation and when I first got there I thought it was around about what I expected. Then suddenly...a beautiful canal in the middle of the city! Lovely lit up buildings and almost installation art under bypasses. I really liked the place and would definitely go back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Birmingham definitely exceeds expectations. I went there sort of apprehensively because of its reputation and when I first got there I thought it was around about what I expected. Then suddenly...a beautiful canal in the middle of the city! Lovely lit up buildings and almost installation art under bypasses. I really liked the place and would definitely go back. I was like that, now I think its a great City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Oh and the removal of grande old buildings should be illegal, especially when they get replaced by such monstrosities as shown in the photos above. Newcastle has lots loads of great buildings over the years. Criminal really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 What I would say is that sometimes it's impossible and to the detriment of an area. The Odeon building in Newcastle is the perfect example. It's listed so can't be torn down, but it's irreparable, completely gutted inside and riddled with asbestos so it can't be renovated. So it's condemned to just sitting there doing nothing. It's a shame because if it could be renovated, it would be a beautiful building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Isn't a there a strong movement afoot to not get rid of these? Over here in the US most major (smart) cities have historic boards who protect these and districts greatly. If you can't build within original buildings and retrofit - then you have to build to spec to make it look as authentic as ever. Many of my company's hotels are located in these districts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Birmingham definitely exceeds expectations. I went there sort of apprehensively because of its reputation and when I first got there I thought it was around about what I expected. Then suddenly...a beautiful canal in the middle of the city! Lovely lit up buildings and almost installation art under bypasses. I really liked the place and would definitely go back. You're probably talking about the gas st basin -> brindley place section. Currently they're doing up the NIA (arena), making it bigger and giving it a glass frontage over the canals: http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/guilbert53/ES109Eastside148_zpsfc71d79c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Besides that gray brutalist s***, that Brum square looks pretty damn nice. Reminds me I really have to visit England outside of London, sometime. Trying to keep it on-topic, I always loved the contrast La Masía makes with the stadium (and the surrounding area). a 300 year-old farmhouse in the middle of the bustling city: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/16/article-1265747-09088921000005DC-853_634x361.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Isn't a there a strong movement afoot to not get rid of these? Over here in the US most major (smart) cities have historic boards who protect these and districts greatly. If you can't build within original buildings and retrofit - then you have to build to spec to make it look as authentic as ever. Many of my company's hotels are located in these districts. There's been a few done in Newcastle-Gateshead (Westgate road building and Get-Carter car park both knocked down) but money is tight nowadays. The rules are stupid, the old odeon is a listed building and in a prime spot for a massive redevelopment and it's been sitting derelict for 10 years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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