Other clubs’ stadiums

[LesPaul]

http://www.thepotato.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/croke-park.jpg

[Cort]

Same with Notts County and Nottingham Forest.

 

http://mbalbert0513.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/stadiums-nottingham.jpg

 

And Trent Bridge.

 

http://news.experiencenottinghamshire.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/central-helicopters.jpg

[Jericho]

Any other examples of stadiums being ridiculously close to each other?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130602132832/the-football-database/images/e/eb/Borussia_Dortmund_Signal_Iduna_Park_Stadium_004.jpg

Signal Iduna Park & Stadion Rote Erde (Borussia Dortmund's reserve team stadium)

[Rosenrot]

Any other examples of stadiums being ridiculously close to each other?

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130602132832/the-football-database/images/e/eb/Borussia_Dortmund_Signal_Iduna_Park_Stadium_004.jpg

Signal Iduna Park & Stadion Rote Erde (Borussia Dortmund's reserve team stadium)

 

*Westfalenstadion 

[TheGuv]

I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home.

 

I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade.

 

One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them.

 

http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/uploads/6090p.jpg

 

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-504788.jpg

 

http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg

 

That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF

[Village Idiot]

Well, the Camp Nou and the Miniestadi (Barça B's stadium) are also pretty close.

 

http://colgadosporelfutbol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/campnou2.jpg

 

The two buildings in-between are the basketball arena and the ice rink.

[brummie]

I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home.

 

I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade.

 

One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them.

 

http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg

 

That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF

 

To give him his due - and this is five or six years ago when he still cared - Lerner was apparently livid when he read about what had been done. He fished out a lot of the original features in storage from the old stand (stuff like claret and blue stained glass windows, plus old fixtures and fittings) and had them installed in the new Trinity Road stand.

 

He also, and this is impressive and just shows what a change he has undergone, when he read about the mosaics on the old stand, tracked down the Italian company who made the original, found out that the main bloke there's great grandson was still running the family business, and employed them to recreate (reinterpret) the mosaics on the back of the Holte End:

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/20/article-0-0398A296000005DC-959_468x289.jpg

 

He also spent £4m renovating the Holte pub at the back of the Holte End. It's a lovely Jacobean imitation (ie of the stately home the other side of the park next to the ground) building which at the start of the 1900s was also used to house some of the players in the boarding rooms upstairs. Under Ellis it was derelict, boarded up and falling down for years.

 

Lerner turned it into this:

 

http://www.groupdyer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2047_1.jpg

 

When I remind myself of things like that, Lerner's loss of interest looks even more stark.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home.

 

I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade.

 

One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them.

 

http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/uploads/6090p.jpg

 

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-504788.jpg

 

http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg

 

That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF

 

Yeah, that really is beautiful. We had the same thing in Newcastle, just not with our stadium.

 

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/RoyalArcademockup-1.jpg

 

Demolished, despite it being listed and this being built in its place.

 

http://manchesterhistory.net/architecture/1960/swanhouse5.jpg

 

 

Also this.

 

 

was torn down for this.

 

http://newcastledailyphoto.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/pearl-assurance-house.jpg

 

 

Architectural evidence that Thatcher was a bit of a shit.

[LesPaul]

I'll never forgive that f***ing philistine Ellis for knocking down the old Trinity Road stand. The entrance was beautiful, and respected the fact it was practically in the gardens of a Jacobean stately home.

 

I am sure we could have somehow redeveloped the stand but maintained the facade.

 

One of the few remaining Archibald Leitch (the original God of football stand design) stands. I can only think of Craven Cottage and Ibrox that still have them.

 

http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/profile/uploads/6090p.jpg

 

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/PA-504788.jpg

 

http://freespace.virgin.net/d.barker/graphics/stein51.jpg

 

That's tremendously beautiful. I'm annoyed massivley on your behalf! I'M A GRIEF THIEF

 

Yeah, that really is beautiful. We had the same thing in Newcastle, just not with our stadium.

 

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/RoyalArcademockup-1.jpg

 

Demolished, despite it being listed and this being built in its place.

 

http://manchesterhistory.net/architecture/1960/swanhouse5.jpg

 

 

Also this.

 

 

was torn down for this.

 

http://newcastledailyphoto.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/pearl-assurance-house.jpg

 

 

Architectural evidence that Thatcher was a bit of a shit.

 

There are some beautiful British cities ruined by shit like that from an architectural dark age.

[TheGuv]

Absolutely disgusting

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Love Villa Park me 

[brummie]

There are some beautiful British cities ruined by shit like that from an architectural dark age.

 

Too right.

 

This is Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. On the left is the Council House, a grade II* listed building. On the right is the Town Hall, a grade 1 listed building, built in the mid nineteenth century where everyone from Charles Dickens to Churchill spoke, where bands like Black Sabbath played some of their early gigs.

 

http://www.britain-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/CN2FE1.jpg

 

What used to be on the other side of this square (ie behind the person taking the picture):

 

http://www.photobydjnorton.com/Library/Test160.jpg

 

What is there now, built in the mid 1970s:

 

http://www.birminghamroundabout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/birmingham_central_library.jpg

 

Truly revolting. Being demolished at the end of the year, thank fuck. John Madin built loads of this brutalist shit over Birmingham and he outlived almost every one of them. I for one would gladly push the plunger on this one.

 

I appreciate that lots of the post war buildings went up due to the damage the Luftwaffe did, but when I hear London luvvies getting themselves all wound up about that horrible mess getting demolished, i want to puke. It is also right in the middle of the city centre, dividing it in two.

 

The moaners are probably the same people who, for decades, sneered at that building.

 

Oh well, sorry, I've gone off topic.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Oh my god. What the fuck happened man. Was there no objection at the time to all of these montrosities being built. I remember doing about it a little bit in Human Geography at school, but it was mainly to do with Byker Wall being the answer to the tower blocks.

[Heake]

There are some beautiful British cities ruined by s*** like that from an architectural dark age.

 

Too right.

 

This is Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. On the left is the Council House, a grade II* listed building. On the right is the Town Hall, a grade 1 listed building, built in the mid nineteenth century where everyone from Charles Dickens to Churchill spoke, where bands like Black Sabbath played some of their early gigs.

 

http://www.britain-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/CN2FE1.jpg

 

What used to be on the other side of this square (ie behind the person taking the picture):

 

http://www.photobydjnorton.com/Library/Test160.jpg

 

What is there now, built in the mid 1970s:

 

http://www.birminghamroundabout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/birmingham_central_library.jpg

 

Truly revolting. Being demolished at the end of the year, thank f***. John Madin built loads of this brutalist s*** over Birmingham and he outlived almost every one of them. I for one would gladly push the plunger on this one.

 

I appreciate that lots of the post war buildings went up due to the damage the Luftwaffe did, but when I hear London luvvies getting themselves all wound up about that horrible mess getting demolished, i want to puke. It is also right in the middle of the city centre, dividing it in two.

 

The moaners are probably the same people who, for decades, sneered at that building.

 

Oh well, sorry, I've gone off topic.

 

(Even further off topic) I'm off to that town hall for the first time this Sunday after a session in probably the best pub in Brum (The Wellington)

 

 

[brummie]

(Even further off topic) I'm off to that town hall for the first time this Sunday after a session in probably the best pub in Brum (The Wellington)

 

If you like proper beer, you need to go for a few in the Post Office Vaults and the Pure Bar, both of which are pretty much round the corner from the Wellington.

[LesPaul]

There are some beautiful British cities ruined by shit like that from an architectural dark age.

 

Too right.

 

This is Chamberlain Square in Birmingham. On the left is the Council House, a grade II* listed building. On the right is the Town Hall, a grade 1 listed building, built in the mid nineteenth century where everyone from Charles Dickens to Churchill spoke, where bands like Black Sabbath played some of their early gigs.

 

http://www.britain-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/CN2FE1.jpg

 

What used to be on the other side of this square (ie behind the person taking the picture):

 

http://www.photobydjnorton.com/Library/Test160.jpg

 

What is there now, built in the mid 1970s:

 

http://www.birminghamroundabout.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/birmingham_central_library.jpg

 

Truly revolting. Being demolished at the end of the year, thank fuck. John Madin built loads of this brutalist shit over Birmingham and he outlived almost every one of them. I for one would gladly push the plunger on this one.

 

I appreciate that lots of the post war buildings went up due to the damage the Luftwaffe did, but when I hear London luvvies getting themselves all wound up about that horrible mess getting demolished, i want to puke. It is also right in the middle of the city centre, dividing it in two.

 

The moaners are probably the same people who, for decades, sneered at that building.

 

Oh well, sorry, I've gone off topic.

 

Wait so that library in the second picture is gone? Horrible if so!

 

We need a "old buildings that look good and that" in GC I think.

[Heake]

The best pubs in Brum are round that area (For beer).

 

shame I only discovered this a few years ago.

 

(Edit: I`ll give them both a try!)

 

[Guest firetotheworks]

Birmingham definitely exceeds expectations. I went there sort of apprehensively because of its reputation and when I first got there I thought it was around about what I expected. Then suddenly...a beautiful canal in the middle of the city! Lovely lit up buildings and almost installation art under bypasses. I really liked the place and would definitely go back.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Birmingham definitely exceeds expectations. I went there sort of apprehensively because of its reputation and when I first got there I thought it was around about what I expected. Then suddenly...a beautiful canal in the middle of the city! Lovely lit up buildings and almost installation art under bypasses. I really liked the place and would definitely go back.

 

I was like that, now I think its a great City.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Oh and the removal of grande old buildings should be illegal, especially when they get replaced by such monstrosities as shown in the photos above. Newcastle has lots loads of great buildings over the years. Criminal really

[Guest firetotheworks]

What I would say is that sometimes it's impossible and to the detriment of an area. The Odeon building in Newcastle is the perfect example. It's listed so can't be torn down, but it's irreparable, completely gutted inside and riddled with asbestos so it can't be renovated. So it's condemned to just sitting there doing nothing. It's a shame because if it could be renovated, it would be a beautiful building.

[Kanji]

Isn't a there a strong movement afoot to not get rid of these?

 

Over here in the US most major (smart) cities have historic boards who protect these and districts greatly. If you can't build within original buildings and retrofit - then you have to build to spec to make it look as authentic as ever. Many of my company's hotels are located in these districts.

[brummie]

Birmingham definitely exceeds expectations. I went there sort of apprehensively because of its reputation and when I first got there I thought it was around about what I expected. Then suddenly...a beautiful canal in the middle of the city! Lovely lit up buildings and almost installation art under bypasses. I really liked the place and would definitely go back.

 

You're probably talking about the gas st basin -> brindley place section. Currently they're doing up the NIA (arena), making it bigger and giving it a glass frontage over the canals:

 

http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/guilbert53/ES109Eastside148_zpsfc71d79c.jpg

[Village Idiot]

Besides that gray brutalist s***, that Brum square looks pretty damn nice. Reminds me I really have to visit England outside of London, sometime.

 

Trying to keep it on-topic, I always loved the contrast La Masía makes with the stadium (and the surrounding area). a 300 year-old farmhouse in the middle of the bustling city:

 

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/16/article-1265747-09088921000005DC-853_634x361.jpg

[Guest neesy111]

Isn't a there a strong movement afoot to not get rid of these?

 

Over here in the US most major (smart) cities have historic boards who protect these and districts greatly. If you can't build within original buildings and retrofit - then you have to build to spec to make it look as authentic as ever. Many of my company's hotels are located in these districts.

 

There's been a few done in Newcastle-Gateshead (Westgate road building and Get-Carter car park both knocked down) but money is tight nowadays.  The rules are stupid, the old odeon is a listed building and in a prime spot for a massive redevelopment and it's been sitting derelict for 10 years now.