3-5-2

[Guest Moe-Ali]

I think this is the formation we should use, due to our midfield talent, and i just personally think with 3 steady defenders somewhere at the club, we dont have to worry about the liabilities of playing four back there, one of which ruins things. And theres allways that one defender, its usually Carr and Baba, although it used to be bramble and boumsong.

 

 

                        Given

 

        Taylor - Upson - New Player

 

                  Butt

                                  Parker

 

Duff/Milner                Emre                Zoggy/Dyer

         

                                           

                                        Dyer/owen

          Obafemi     

 

 

I really think this is the way forward.

Because butt and parker playing at the same time, makes me feel pretty safe in defence.

 

Taylor. and Upson,who i really think we will sign in the market. + one of the young fullbacks we are linked with, be it bale or someone else.

with parker and butt in the team, we also offer our more talented attacking players, a good amount more freedom, the likes of emre dyer zoggy and duff, i'd rather just did their part in the opposing half.

 

And when owen is back i would put him up front, switching dyer into midfield for one of the younger fellows, zogg or milna.

 

 

[Howaythelads]

3 at the back doesn't work. It's been tried many times and failed every time.

 

Out of interest, why do you think it will work now?

[Guest Moe-Ali]

3 at the back doesn't work. It's been tried many times and failed every time.

 

Out of interest, why do you think it will work now?

 

i see taylor as a player who would thrive on a 3 man defence. specially on the right of it.

Also because we have a performing defensive midfielder, and another captaining our side, who is just made for the role of connector between defence and attack, scottie was born to be a pathway between butt and emre.

[Dinho lad]

we are a 442 team.

[skryp2nit3]

I think this is the formation we should use, due to our midfield talent, and i just personally think with 3 steady defenders somewhere at the club, we dont have to worry about the liabilities of playing four back there, one of which ruins things. And theres allways that one defender, its usually Carr and Baba, although it used to be bramble and boumsong.

 

not so long ago we were lining up like this

 

babayaro bramble boumsong carr

 

no wonder we were shite

[Guest Morph]

remember under robson i think it was when we reverted to it twice during a season and got smashed both times.  i know we have different players now, but it's the same concept which imo, will similarly fail.

[JH]

we are a 442 team.

[nazza06]

exposed on the wings and as centre backs are drawn out wide space is created in the middle which makes late runners hard to get near resulting in lots of goals for the opposition

[Yorkie]

No no no.

[Guest Moe-Ali]

exposed on the wings and as centre backs are drawn out wide space is created in the middle which makes late runners hard to get near resulting in lots of goals for the opposition

we have two holding midfielders, its not like a 5 attackers vs 3 defenders type thing...

[toptoon]

I'd go with what we had yesterday and its up to Talents like Duff and zoggy (when back) to play there way back into the team when given the chance.

 

Given

 

Nobby  Taylor  Ramage  Huntingdon

 

Milner    Parker    Butt      Emre

 

            Dyer      Martins

 

Subs

 

Krul

Baba

Duff - Great Sub to have!! Doesn't deserve the stick he's getting from some and will prove doubters wrong soon.

Le Sib - unlucky to be on the bench really.

Zoggy (when back) - Pattison/O'brien

[Howaythelads]

I don't think it's particuarly that we have to be a 4-4-2 team, it's more that we need 4 at the back, that's all. Ahead of those 4 I don't see a problem with trying different formations, but the 3 CB thing is such a different way for defenders to play they usually struggle at it in England. They never seem to know what they should be doing, where they should be going etc.

 

[skryp2nit3]

4 at the back is standard in england. Its the most basic and well balanced defence line. Everyone knows how to play in a back four. Managers like Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger and Benitez have all stated no matter what variation in their formation, its always 4 at the back, because it works. Simple as.

[merlin]

4 at the back is standard in england. Its the most basic and well balanced defence line. Everyone knows how to play in a back four. Managers like Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger and Benitez have all stated no matter what variation in their formation, its always 4 at the back, because it works. Simple as.

 

Agreed - also, don't think Martins is a sole up-front type of striker, he's not big enough to hold the ball properly. he actually needs a big guy like Ashton for him to play off, using his pace to get on to the target man's lay-offs.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

exposed on the wings and as centre backs are drawn out wide space is created in the middle which makes late runners hard to get near resulting in lots of goals for the opposition

 

3-2-4-1

[Newcastle Fan]

won't work

 

simply because we are always the kind of teams that needs to defend and defend well,sure our left and right backs are horrible,but the fact is that most premiership teams attack from the wing might be the reason

 

playing this formation will give us strength when facing cross's,or and attack from the middle,but any good manager will know how to use this plan against us,beacuse neither zoggy,or dyer and milner,and espically not duff know how to defend well,they will be out weak point when coming back,and we won't be able to use them as often when going forward

 

a good plan for our team is the typical 4-4-2,or a 4-3-3 formation,both will work like a charm..

[Elric]

Anything beyond 4-4-2 may make Roeder's head explode, tbh.

[Guest Moe-Ali]

won't work

 

simply because we are always the kind of teams that needs to defend and defend well,sure our left and right backs are horrible,but the fact is that most premiership teams attack from the wing might be the reason

 

playing this formation will give us strength when facing cross's,or and attack from the middle,but any good manager will know how to use this plan against us,beacuse neither zoggy,or dyer and milner,and espically not duff know how to defend well,they will be out weak point when coming back,and we won't be able to use them as often when going forward

 

a good plan for our team is the typical 4-4-2,or a 4-3-3 formation,both will work like a charm..

 

K son, for the 3rd time, we have more than 3 or 4 talented mids, and less than 4 suitable defs.

[gonufc]

won't work

 

simply because we are always the kind of teams that needs to defend and defend well,sure our left and right backs are horrible,but the fact is that most premiership teams attack from the wing might be the reason

 

playing this formation will give us strength when facing cross's,or and attack from the middle,but any good manager will know how to use this plan against us,beacuse neither zoggy,or dyer and milner,and espically not duff know how to defend well,they will be out weak point when coming back,and we won't be able to use them as often when going forward

 

a good plan for our team is the typical 4-4-2,or a 4-3-3 formation,both will work like a charm..

 

K son, for the 3rd time, we have more than 3 or 4 talented mids, and less than 4 suitable defs.

 

First of all we have the 8th best defensive record in the league at the moment. Second of all, NO NO NO. If you had seen any premiership football you would have realised that 3 5 2 just doesn't work. IT DOESN'T WORK AND NEVER WILL (at least for newcastle) . Roeder won't be able to make it work and the players won't know how to play in the system. It's been tried before and we got thumped. It's a silly suggestion anyway because Roeder would never use it. There's a reason that other premiership clubs only have four at the back you know...it works!

[Guest s0ftcore]

I personally think we could do alright with this formation considering our shite full-backs (exception of Nobby)

 

The only thing is the wing-backs. Nobby isn't a wingback, neither is Babayaro. Perhaps Milner and Dyer? But making Dyer track back - is that what we want? Or would it be better to play him off Martins?

 

Replace Milner with somebody faster and we could have a team capable of fast flank counter-attacks, but also creating from the centre. It'd be like the Brazil team of 2002

[toptoon]

won't work

 

simply because we are always the kind of teams that needs to defend and defend well,sure our left and right backs are horrible,but the fact is that most premiership teams attack from the wing might be the reason

 

playing this formation will give us strength when facing cross's,or and attack from the middle,but any good manager will know how to use this plan against us,beacuse neither zoggy,or dyer and milner,and espically not duff know how to defend well,they will be out weak point when coming back,and we won't be able to use them as often when going forward

 

a good plan for our team is the typical 4-4-2,or a 4-3-3 formation,both will work like a charm..

 

K son, for the 3rd time, we have more than 3 or 4 talented mids, and less than 4 suitable defs.

 

First of all we have the 8th best defensive record in the league at the moment. Second of all, NO NO NO. If you had seen any premiership football you would have realised that 3 5 2 just doesn't work. IT DOESN'T WORK AND NEVER WILL (at least for newcastle) . Roeder won't be able to make it work and the players won't know how to play in the system. It's been tried before and we got thumped. It's a silly suggestion anyway because Roeder would never use it. There's a reason that other premiership clubs only have four at the back you know...it works!

 

Agree with gonufc. Our defence looks great at the moment with Nobby, Taylor, Ramage and Hunty. We do need a specialist LB, but i like Hunty and the extra height he gives us when playing. I bet we have an even better defensive record with our current defensive personal too i.e.  if we start playing Shambles Moore Car and Baba again, we'll start looking shite again. Credit to Pearson too!