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If you could, I'd take that point right now.

If we get 3 points next week, I probably would too. We have to come out of these 3 games, at worst, undefeated.

 

I'd rather win the two home games and lose at villa than draw 3. Two wins from those 3 is important and would place us well, don't place too much specifically on villa away.  Would be disappointed to lose it though.

 

I remain on a 3.

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H Reading 3

A Aston Villa 1

H Chelsea 0

A Tottenham 0

H Southampton 3

A Swansea City 0

H Stoke City 1

A Wigan Athletic 0

A Manchester City 0

H Fulham 1

H Sunderland 1

A WBA 0

H Liverpool 0

A West Ham Utd 0

A QPR 1

H Arsenal 0

 

32 points.

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H Reading 3

A Aston Villa 1

H Chelsea 0

A Tottenham 0

H Southampton 3

A Swansea City 0

H Stoke City 1

A Wigan Athletic 0

A Manchester City 0

H Fulham 1

H Sunderland 1

A WBA 0

H Liverpool 0

A West Ham Utd 0

A QPR 1

H Arsenal 0

 

32 points.

 

Scary stuff.

I basically agree on all the predictions :neutral:

We got to get results against top teams, and above all away wins. Don't know how, but we have to.

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Think that that's perhaps overly cynical.

 

A face or two in, and I don't see why we can't grab an away win at Villa, a home win against Stoke and home win against Fulham/Mackems, as well as a draw against WHU away. 

 

Not 'easy', but that results table really would be a worst case scenario.

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Think that that's perhaps overly cynical.

 

A face or two in, and I don't see why we can't grab an away win at Villa, a home win against Stoke and home win against Fulham/Mackems, as well as a draw against WHU away. 

 

Not 'easy', but that results table really would be a worst case scenario.

 

We still wouldn't break 40pts even if we did all that. Might be enough of course.

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Think that that's perhaps overly cynical.

 

A face or two in, and I don't see why we can't grab an away win at Villa, a home win against Stoke and home win against Fulham/Mackems, as well as a draw against WHU away. 

 

Not 'easy', but that results table really would be a worst case scenario.

 

We still wouldn't break 40pts even if we did all that. Might be enough of course.

 

I don't think any of the 3 at the bottom will get 40 points to be honest, but with the way we are playing I don't think we will either.

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Think that that's perhaps overly cynical.

 

A face or two in, and I don't see why we can't grab an away win at Villa, a home win against Stoke and home win against Fulham/Mackems, as well as a draw against WHU away. 

 

Not 'easy', but that results table really would be a worst case scenario.

 

Even in that case we'd put together 39 points, probably not enough to stay up.

And I can't see how we could possibly win away tbh: apart from Villa nobody looks so weak that could be beaten at home by a team that never go forward nor create anything dangerous in the opponent's half in 90 minutes.

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the teams who get out of the s*** are usually the ones who play without fear, have a go and get results no-one would expect

 

Like the Saints. I love how they try to win every game even if pretty limited in talent, and in spite of their awful defensive line they pulled themselves out of the relegation zone, play a decent football and are getting more and more results.

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wigan last year, they didn't get out of it by shutting up fucking shop did they?  they got out of it by playing well and going for it, became more attacking if anything

 

i know the excuse will be that pardew will switch to an attacking style when he gets the players but this is bollocks, it'll get harder to do that as the days go by and the rot sets in deeper...if we'd been losing games by going for it then at least putting better players into an existing system like that would make sense

 

what you're now talking about is trying to suddenly change the style of an entire season and ask players new to the country to seamlessly fit into something that no-one else is even used to

 

whatever way you look at it, awful, awful management

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On current form not sure I would expect us to get anything against the mackems and Reading and Southampton both winning today doesn't bode well in the confidence stakes. Don't see us beating reading at all right now. To be honest I'm a pessimistic bastard but I would be more surprised if we got out of it this year than managed to survive.

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I'm a bit more optimistic than Dave over those fixtures tbh. There's plenty of winnable games there, certainly enough to see us survive.

 

It's grim that we're even talking about survival though, considering the players we have.

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