JoeyBartoon Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Can’t help feel that next season he’s going to be compared to how Spurs performed this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Trust me guys, we are title challengers next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I think the club has underestimated how much of a hamstring FFP is to some extent. The reality is that we're going to have a first 11 that I'd wager could be top 4, but that for a good chunk of each season we're going to have players that potentially aren't at that level. I'm happy with Howe establishing top 6 with some European competition each year. That being said, with Chelsea, Liverpool, spurs and maybe Man U all having new managers next season, plus Villa stretched, it would be nice to try and take advantage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Football forums are great for flagging the lack of football knowledge of football forum users! From the statements of our owners it’s pretty obvious that Howe is integral to our long-term build. Last season’s injury crisis showed how far off we are on that long term journey. If we can retain our big hitters and strengthen in the summer, and have a bit of luck on the injury front I can only see a great season for us, with Howe at the helm for all of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 He will be under pressure to achieve next season, as he should be but that goes with the territory of managing a club that now has high ambitions. If he can sort our away form out then we will be up there pushing the teams at the very top. However, if he doesn’t or we have another season of mass injuries then the club will make the change. I am on the side of him sorting our away form out and I hope he can do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I don’t know if I’m getting old, but I’m absolutely fine with playing good, at times great, attacking football, being at the top or thereabouts. Winning something would be fantastic of course but I guess I’ve somewhat given up on it. I just enjoy being able to like the team and want them to win every game. Howe is the second coming of Keegan and we would be stupid to sack him prematurely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) I don't think anyone at the club did underestimate the difficulty this 2nd season would be. I mean they, literally, told us on numerous occasions. If anything it's some of our "fan" base with the underestimation & hubris. Looking forward to next season all ready. Given the trials of this season and finishing a mere 9 points from CL is a remarkable foundation. I'm sure they'll build on it. Edited May 26 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Football has become fun again I for one am not an entitled little brat who expects us to win the league or throw my toys if we lose I love what Howe represents. I never miss a press conference. I love our brand of football. Long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Fuck me, there are some entitled bastards in our fan base. Fully expect Eddie to shut them up next season. Some of the football we’ve played these last two seasons has been the best in a quarter of a century. The club was hollowed out to a flimsy shell under the Fat Controller and is going to take longer than 24 months to rebuild, particularly given the constraints our Sinister 6 enemies are intent on binding us in. Eddie has done an amazing job elevating us back into being competitive. Hate the phrase but “trust the process” and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, Hhtoon said: I think the club has underestimated how much of a hamstring FFP is to some extent. The reality is that we're going to have a first 11 that I'd wager could be top 4, but that for a good chunk of each season we're going to have players that potentially aren't at that level. I'm happy with Howe establishing top 6 with some European competition each year. That being said, with Chelsea, Liverpool, spurs and maybe Man U all having new managers next season, plus Villa stretched, it would be nice to try and take advantage FFP has really put the brakes on our evolution - atm our squad is so lopsided with regardless quality. This summer is huge for Eddie as he needs to get players out to bring more quality in. It is a mystery as to how much we are actually able to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Tonali coming back in and a quality right winger being signed will be so massive for this team. I personally think we are going to be a force next season. That right side has been an issue with Longstaff and Almiron just not being reliable enough performance wise. These are the last key pieces of our first 11, and I think the difference will be very noticeable. Howe has already laid the foundations and established a great team culture and framework. Sorting those two positions will take us to the next level. I cannot see us finishing outside the top 4 and certainly not outside the top 6 and there is a strong likelihood we win a cup IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Tonali coming back in and a quality right winger being signed will be so massive for this team. I personally think we are going to be a force next season. That right side has been an issue with Longstaff and Almiron just not being reliable enough performance wise. These are the last key pieces of our first 11, and I think the difference will be very noticeable. Howe has already laid the foundations and established a great team culture and framework. Sorting those two positions will take us to the next level. I cannot see us finishing outside the top 4 and certainly not outside the top 6 and there is a strong likelihood we win a cup IMO. I would like to see DM come in to allow Bruno to get further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, Gawalls said: Is his contract length 5 year? For me his minimum target is to take us into a regular top 6 club whilst cutting free dead wood and rebuilding - ideally with huge goings on in the academy so we can call on them in the future either for a call up to first team or additional revenue stream. Anything above that fire me is just gravy. i can see why people are adding CL as a target as we got it once but our squad is still so far behind the top teams to expect that season in season out just yet in my opinion. So if we are going into the season after next with 0 trophies, would you be happy with the club making the decision to bring in someone else? Personally even if we qualify for Europe again next season I'd still be looking for someone who can win us some actual silverware rather than giving him another 5 year contract. We all love Howe and I recognise that he's a good coach but if it becomes evident he can't deliver the goods we need to leave the sentiment behind. I desperately want him to succeed I just have my doubts, but he should be safe for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 WTF is Howe meant to deliver that he hasn't already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: So if we are going into the season after next with 0 trophies, would you be happy with the club making the decision to bring in someone else? Personally even if we qualify for Europe again next season I'd still be looking for someone who can win us some actual silverware rather than giving him another 5 year contract. We all love Howe and I recognise that he's a good coach but if it becomes evident he can't deliver the goods we need to leave the sentiment behind. I desperately want him to succeed I just have my doubts, but he should be safe for the time being. Totally depends on the circumstances. If I still feel we are going forward and we thi k it's just a matter of Time then I'm prepared to stick. I'd be more likely to stick with him if we won nowt but finished top 4 than if we won the cup but just avoided relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 ETH wins trophies but imo Howe is a much better coach and we'd be mad to get rid anytime soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 7 minutes ago, arnonel said: WTF is Howe meant to deliver that he hasn't already? Trophies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Entitled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 6 minutes ago, madras said: Totally depends on the circumstances. If I still feel we are going forward and we thi k it's just a matter of Time then I'm prepared to stick. I'd be more likely to stick with him if we won nowt but finished top 4 than if we won the cup but just avoided relegation. I completely understand that, because of where we've come from over the last 20 years it's easy to just be happy that we're competing and qualifying for Europe, which obviously is an amazing thing, I'm just wondering how long people are willing to wait before we actually win something to consider Howe might not be the answer to our trophy drought, when does qualifying for Europe become not enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, arnonel said: Entitled Entitled because I want to see my club win something, behave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 minute ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: I completely understand that, because of where we've come from over the last 20 years it's easy to just be happy that we're competing and qualifying for Europe, which obviously is an amazing thing, I'm just wondering how long people are willing to wait before we actually win something to consider Howe might not be the answer to our trophy drought, when does qualifying for Europe become not enough? It's like I said, if I still feel we are going forward and that he is the best available then I stick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Entitled because you expect it after 2.5 seasons. 1 - we avoided relegation (over delivered) 2- we achieved champs league (over delivered) 3 - we got 7th with worst injury crisis. Above Man U. Most goals scored. Mental cup draws. (Over delivered or at a stretch, par) But yeah. He should have delivered a trophy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 I wonder if Villa fans are saying similar about Emery did nowt in the domestic cups probably won't get a better chance at a trophy than they had in this season's ECL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 1 hour ago, Collage said: I don’t know if I’m getting old, but I’m absolutely fine with playing good, at times great, attacking football, being at the top or thereabouts. Winning something would be fantastic of course but I guess I’ve somewhat given up on it. I just enjoy being able to like the team and want them to win every game. Howe is the second coming of Keegan and we would be stupid to sack him prematurely. Couldn't put it better myself, except I am old and its just brilliant to have a team to be proud of again. That'll do for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 2 minutes ago, arnonel said: Entitled because you expect it after 2.5 seasons. 1 - we avoided relegation (over delivered) 2- we achieved champs league (over delivered) 3 - we got 7th with worst injury crisis. Above Man U. Most goals scored. Mental cup draws. (Over delivered or at a stretch, par) But yeah. He should have delivered a trophy Actually, not once anywhere have I said he should have already delivered us a trophy, I'm asking the question of how many seasons does he get winning 0 trophies before we look elsewhere for someone who can? I've already said he deserves to continue. The bloke has been great for us but needs to deliver silverware at some point, would imagine he would admit the same thing himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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