Eddie Howe

[Zero]

52 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I still think this assumption that Howe wants total control of everything in a manner that hasn’t really existed for a decade or more is dodgy. 
 

I don’t get why a young and intelligent manager would supposedly be behaving in the manner of a 80s or 90s dinosaur. 

 

Doesn’t ring true at all. 

 

 

 

perfectionist. They always act like that. Excelled at his own area due to spending all of his time on every details, and always want control on any factor that might have impact on his own territory.

 

I have seen lots of these people at work. Howe is that type of person. I genuinely not surprised

[Lotus]

16 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Until this season, we held a very good record against everyone other than City and Liverpool at home, we've also taken out some big sides in the cup. I'd have to disagree that we've been flat track bullies.

Whether the terminology is correctly descriptive or not, we’ve won when we’ve outrun and/or out shithoused our opponents.

We don’t really outplay anyone from the off. We can look good after 70 mins when we’ve run them ragged and there’s space all over.

 

We’ve been very effective when pressing high with maximal intensity, forcing turnovers in dangerous positions and capitalising. 
 

When forced to use creativity and movement, skill and vision to open up fresh opponents, we’ve not really been that type of team. 
 

EH success = underdog mentality, ran further, jump higher, smash into them, harrass them, take the opportunities.

 

Thats why I think he got given the wrong players this summer.

 

Elanaga doesn’t have the engine to press constantly, Ramsey isn’t really physical at all, Wolt we’ve all been wrong about so far and Wissa isn’t Wilson.

[Erikse]

2 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

I’m assuming Osula will need replacing.

 

Might be a young and cheap striker in that case.

[Optimistic Nut]

11 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

As mentioned in another thread, are we going to buy another striker without selling Wolte or Wissa? I can only see that happening if we change formation to play Wolte together with another striker.

 

I think we'll sell Woltemade & Osula, sign a new number 9 and keep Wissa as back up. 

[Erikse]

2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I think we'll sell Woltemade & Osula, sign a new number 9 and keep Wissa as back up. 

 

That's what I'm hoping for. Then again we would need to find a buyer for decent money, and also find a replacement in an already highly busy window. The work on finding replacements for everyone needs to be done 10 times better than last summer. We've often left it late.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Erikse

[Kimbo]

6 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Might be a young and cheap striker in that case.

It would need to be someone good enough to play as Woltemade and Wissa don’t appear to be good enough. I would sell either if we could get close to our money back, which is unlikely.

 

We have PSR headroom and we’ll likely get a lot from sales in the summer, so money shouldn’t be an issue.

[GOTONEW]

Those words from Eddie don't make me feel sad or feel sorry for him. That would be a weird reaction. No, they make me positive, if anything. He's a sportsman, a competitive one, and he's looking at himself as well as others. This has always been the case with him, but the fact he's vocalising it means he's even more aware that he carries chunks of blame for things. Midfield tactics being my major concern.

But again, it definitely harks back to the stupidly low amount of time on the training pitch that our schedule affords us. 

 

Any decision made before the end of the season, about his role here, by himself or the club, would be extremely premature. 

 

 

Edited February 8 by GOTONEW

[Erikse]

4 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

It would need to be someone good enough to play as Woltemade and Wissa don’t appear to be good enough. I would sell either if we could get close to our money back, which is unlikely.

 

We have PSR headroom and we’ll likely get a lot from sales in the summer, so money shouldn’t be an issue.

 

Sure, but we also need like 7-8 new players, so we need to prioritize still. Think we'd have to sell Wolte or Wissa if we're going to get an quality striker in. Doesn't make sense to have 3 expensive strikers when you're playing just 1 every week.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Erikse

[Optimistic Nut]

11 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

That's what I'm hoping for. Then again we would need to find a buyer for decent money, and also find a replacement in an already highly busy window. The work on finding replacements for everyone needs to be done 10 times better than last summer. We've often left it late.

 

 

 

 

I think if we get £50m plus we lick our wounds and take the hit. We overpaid for Wissa but we always intended to sign him. Woltemade was the "panic buy" as we needed another striker and we were getting further & further down the list with less time. I like him and he'll be a great player somewhere but I think he's eras Tomasson story. 

[Kimbo]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Sure, but we also need like 7-8 new players, so we need to prioritize still. Think we'd have to sell Wolte or Wissa if we're going to get an quality striker in. Doesn't make sense to have 3 expensive strikers when you're playing just 1 every week.

 

 

 

It does make sense if the two expensive strikers you have are nowhere near good enough. It’s essential we have capable striker, and we should have the headroom for it. I would try to sell one or both, but I think it’s unlikely. Wissa is a financial write off.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Kimbo

[Minhosa]

Someone needs to have a word with him instructing him to prioritise the derby now imho. He needs to prepare for that game like his job depends on it. If we fail to perform again in that, he’ll lose the stadium completely imho. 
 

That has to be his priority number one. 

[Erikse]

4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I think if we get £50m plus we lick our wounds and take the hit. We overpaid for Wissa but we always intended to sign him. Woltemade was the "panic buy" as we needed another striker and we were getting further & further down the list with less time. I like him and he'll be a great player somewhere but I think he's eras Tomasson story. 

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we have to pay the rest of the amortization aswell when we sell? So effectively it won't free up funds in the immidiate term, it will only get rid of his wages and yearly amortization, which I guess helps a tiny bit. I'm asking because I haven't updates myself on how this works, and what changes that has been made to the rules.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Erikse

[Matt1892]

Is it that the strikers are not good enough or that Howe cannot get the best out of them, and that the continued drop off as the season has progressed has impacted pretty much every players performances?

of the summer signings, Woltemade and Thiaw looked stand out signings at the beginning of the season but both have regressed massively and fallen to the level of the rest of them.

[Erikse]

8 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

It does make sense if the two expensive strikers you have are nowhere near good enough. It’s essential we have capable striker, and we should have the headroom for it.

 

We also need 3 fullbacks if we sell Tino. I think we will sell Wolte or Wissa if we're going to buy a striker. I don't think any team in the league has 3 expensive (pure) strikers in their squad.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Erikse

[Wallsendmag]

22 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I think we'll sell Woltemade & Osula, sign a new number 9 and keep Wissa as back up. 

 

Yeah I could see that happening. Expect Frankfurt will come back in for Osula in the summer, I just can't see a scenario where Woltemade fits in here, and Wissa's best position would appear to be back up to a better striker.

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, LiquidAK said:

 aye

Wish someone would just say like. I wasn't allowed to change my username years ago because I was told the whole dual identity thing was a problem.

[Erikse]

8 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Yeah I could see that happening. Expect Frankfurt will come back in for Osula in the summer, I just can't see a scenario where Woltemade fits in here, and Wissa's best position would appear to be back up to a better striker.

 

Exactly my thoughts, he'd make a solid backup, and I think that with time he can become a Wilson with less injuries. We'll just have to forget about how much we paid for him.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Erikse

[Matt1892]

5 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we have to pay the rest of the amortization aswell when we sell? So effectively it won't free up funds in the immidiate term, it will only get rid of his wages and yearly amortization, which I guess helps a tiny bit. I'm asking because I haven't updates myself on how this works, and what changes that has been made to the rules.

 

 

 

We will free up funds as we won’t have to budget for his fee going forward.

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, Matt1892 said:

We will free up funds as we won’t have to budget for his fee going forward.

 

As mentioned, yes. It's not much, but I guess it's something.

[Wallsendmag]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Exactly my thoughts, he'd make a solid backup, and I think that with time he can become a Wilson with less injuries. We just have to forget about how much we paid for him.

 

 

 

 

Aye he's never a £55m striker as long as he's got a hole in his arse. However the fee isn't his fault. We massively overpaid for obvious reasons. I just wish he'd put in a bit nore effort.

[Erikse]

2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Aye he's never a £55m striker as long as he's got a hole in his arse. However the fee isn't his fault. We massively overpaid for obvious reasons. I just wish he'd put in a bit nore effort.

 

I do think that he will be giving us quite a few goals in the future if we can put together a set of players and system that clicks offensively. Right now we're all over the place. He was a great finisher at Brentford.

 

 

Edited February 8 by Erikse

[Sandrotastico]

1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

I don’t think anyone wants him to get the sack and unlike some managers, he took full accountability yesterday which sums the bloke up.

 

He basically built Bournemouth and brought them through the divisions, think even their fans admit he’s a control freak. So it’s no surprise he’d want final say on transfers and that’s what he had under PCP until Amanda left.

 

His spat with Mitchell I’d guess has a bit of blame at both doors, but it was rumoured Ashworth was also unhappy with his remit and the job wasn’t as advertised.

Be careful what you wish for. He ended up with full control this summer and I think PIF trusted him entirely. It’s backfired and his signings of Wissa, Elanga and Ramsey, for the fees paid has left him and the club in a very difficult PSR position.

 

I don’t see any evolution like some, apart from he occasionally goes to 3 at the back when we’re facing difficult opposition. Trippier is finished why didn’t he move Thiaw to right back last night?

 

The patterns of play haven’t changed and we’re overly reliant on limited wingers to create chances, or Bruno through his sheer will to win forcing something.

 

Our squad on paper looks the strongest it’s ever been in his time here, yes where short in areas but this is the 2nd time he’s failed to rotate successfully.

 

Hopefully he turns it around, or if worst happens it ends amicably. His place in our history is assured, but after last summer would I trust him with a war chest this summer, or that we’ll evolve next season, not sure myself and the club should be discreetly looking at other options to take the project forward in my opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

Wise words!

[duo]

Eddie needs a week on the training ground something he can't get ☹️

[Matt1892]

8 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

As mentioned, yes. It's not much, but I guess it's something.

Why don’t you think it will be much?

[nufc4eva]

My concern with Howe is relying on the older so called trusted players and not taking any chances with youngsters. How will Shahar, Neave, Murphy, Park, Alibi progress if not given half a chance. League to me is pretty much gone, can't see us picking up enough points to get even top 8 so would like him to try something different and phase a few players out. Wouldn't even be against Osula starting up front for a few games as Wissa and Woltemade offer very little right now.

 

Maybe when Miley is back drop him and Tonali in as holding kids and 1 of Bruno, Willock, Ramsey as a number 10 for rest of season and go 4231. Create a different way to play and never know.