Wallsendmag Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Groundhog63 said: You don't go anymore. What do you know 😉 That's why I'm asking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Holmesy said: No, because it's horseshit Thought it might be but I just wanted to check as I wasn't there to witness for myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, r0cafella said: All due respect to the believers, we lost as many games as the relegated teams last season despite the massive expenditure. Some people didn't want him granted, but we can't just look past last season and claim people shouldn't have doubts. This is only from memory so I apologise if wrong but seem to recall hearing that we also won as many as the team in sixth (something like that). It therefore comes down to how you view the stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Robster said: This is only from memory so I apologise if wrong but seem to recall hearing that we also won as many as the team in sixth (something like that). It therefore comes down to how you view the stats. We won more games than Bournemouth and the same amount as most of the teams 7th downwards. The biggest issue last season (aside from general performances) was undoubtedly our ability to turn draws into defeats late in games. Fine margins, but a consistent problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Robster said: This is only from memory so I apologise if wrong but seem to recall hearing that we also won as many as the team in sixth (something like that). It therefore comes down to how you view the stats. We may have but we finished 12th? with a significant regression. Again, not trying to goad anyone or start a fight but I think Eddie being under pressure is reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I'm not much sure there's a lot new to talk about here. Except I will say that there was a vaguely floated idea that Howe himself might not be able to attract the best players, which seems a stretch to me. I guess some players might think this way, but there are very few managers I can think of who could attract a player by name alone. Pep maybe, Mourinho arguably. I'm probably missing some, maybe Ancelotti? And I suppose Trippier basically signed for Howe, but that's after having worked for him and knowing how he goes about things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, r0cafella said: We may have but we finished 12th? with a significant regression. Again, not trying to goad anyone or start a fight but I think Eddie being under pressure is reasonable. Oh no worries. I'm not trying to either. My viewpoint is that I have confidence that we/Eddie can fix the problems of us turning draws into defeats and will result in a better season. I put a huge amount of that into lack of confidence and a fear factor that grew as the season progressed once the clock hit 80 minutes. I won't argue that he's under pressure either but I have faith that he'll find the answers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted 49 minutes ago Share Posted 49 minutes ago 47 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Can anyone come up with any evidence to back this lad and his "toxic atmosphere" claims up please as I haven't got a clue what he's going on about. Last time I remember a "toxic" atmosphere at SJP was v Cardiff when Pardew was manager. Admittedly I only went to 1 game post Xmas last season so maybe it turned nasty which I didn't witness. If it did this is genuinely the first I've heard of it though. I was talking about the start of next season not last season. Even then there were twitter numpties trying to get songs going last season about Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted 44 minutes ago Share Posted 44 minutes ago 45 minutes ago, Holmesy said: And is that how you felt when Carver, Bruce and Kinnear were in charge? I wouldn't put those three in the same conversation as Howe, that just shows the disrespect being put on his name. And no, I didn't get on their backs at the match despite wanting shot of them. It's possible to want a change in the dugout without letting it affect your support of the team while they're playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted 40 minutes ago Share Posted 40 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, Robster said: Oh no worries. I'm not trying to either. My viewpoint is that I have confidence that we/Eddie can fix the problems of us turning draws into defeats and will result in a better season. I put a huge amount of that into lack of confidence and a fear factor that grew as the season progressed once the clock hit 80 minutes. I won't argue that he's under pressure either but I have faith that he'll find the answers. I sincerely hope he can as well. He's a legend in my eyes and I've got nothing but respect for him but the interests of the club always come first in my mind and I was massively disappointed with what I saw last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted 26 minutes ago Share Posted 26 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said: I was talking about the start of next season not last season. Even then there were twitter numpties trying to get songs going last season about Howe. Did any of them materialise into chants inside the ground? Nobody knows what will happen at the start of next season. That's jjst you speculating. If we have a good Transfer window and start well the feeling will be positive. If we have a bad one and start poorly again it'll be negative. Same as anywhere else really. We desperately need a good start, more than ever before. I'll say that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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