Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Newcastle United (23/10/21)

[Begbie]

13 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

 

Get Dubravka in and that is solved as he is more than capable for the team in it's current position and brings organisation. I would argue we also need a creative midfielder and a striker (as Wilson will probably not play all season as his injury record indicates). 

I agree on Dubravka, its to bad he is injured to much.. i also agree we need a creative midfielder, but think goalie, cb, and dmc is more important to keep us in the league. I do think its going to be a hard transfer window, some clubs wont do business with us, and others will ask to high prices from us. But asap we need a manager, and a coaching Staff. Also add a friend, shrink, coach or whatever for ASM.

[Thomson Mouse]

1 hour ago, midds said:

I'm not even totally sure that the banner was a direct pop at Newcastle fans either. The main target of it was the PL for passing it and for the Saudi's for their horrific record on human rights. Both of which I would find it impossible to argue with tbh. The facts are that the Saudi's record of HR is abhorrent and criticising it is absolutely fair game imo, letting it slide and ignoring it isn't going to do anything to help the situation. 

 

I suppose the timing of it all could be questioned. Why are Palace fans suddenly concerned with HR abuses in Saudi Arabia? Where were the banners last month? The obvious answer is that Palace fans now have to compete with a club that's now part of their world via the PL, and they've got every right to voice their protest. Newcastle fans see the banner in the stadium and online, consider it an attack and the first, natural instinct is to defend the club as they would do, it's tribal, you attack us, we defend ourselves. Problem with that mentality is that is plays into the hands of the Saudis and in doing so you're already quite a few steps down the line of defending the indefensible. It's sportswashing, it's the reason they wanted a PL club in the first place. 

 

We're going to have to get used to this, we're also going to have to be better at responding to it too. 

 

I took it as a pop at us as well, block swinging a sword towards a magpie and ‘we’ve got our club back’

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

The more anti-Saudi flags/banners there are, the more a certain section will wear/continue to wear the stereotypical attire and wave the Saudi flag. The hatred will be embraced and it’ll become an act of defiance.

 

Its obviously not on the level of, but is similar to, some of our fans wearing dust masks when playing the Burra. It got the odd chuckle then their own fans started doing it.

[Happinesstan]

2 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

The more anti-Saudi flags/banners there are, the more a certain section will wear/continue to wear the stereotypical attire and wave the Saudi flag. The hatred will be embraced and it’ll become an act of defiance.

 

Its obviously not on the level of, but is similar to, some of our fans wearing dust masks when playing the Burra. It got the odd chuckle then their own fans started doing it.

You could be right. I guess it depends upon which direction the NUFC vs the world campaign takes.