Shearergol Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Regardless of whether they win the league this season, Arsenal will never be big enough to keep their star players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Deuce said: Looking forward to quoting this when he signs for City (I want to agree with you, mind) What on Earth is he going to gain from going to Man City?! He's a London boy that is at his boyhood club and is about to sing a £300,000 a week contract at 21 years of age, as part of a young core with a young manager that are primed to compete at the top in the years to come. No chance he gives up the gravitas and status he has at Arsenal to join Man City man. It would be a crazy move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Regardless of whether they win the league this season, Arsenal will never be big enough to keep their star players. This is an absolutely shocking post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 hours ago, Skeletor said: Saka 100% will be poached at some point. City or Real Madrid. He'll probably stay for the next two or three years at least. Then a lot will depend on whether City get done for cheating. Arsenal look in a really good place, with a young squad that's only going to get better. If the FA manage to put the squeeze on the financial dopers, then they have every chance of staying at the top. He might even spend his entire career with them. Saka now looks like one of the best players in the world. Doubling up on him doesn't seem to have much effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: What on Earth is he going to gain from going to Man City?! He's a London boy that is at his boyhood club and is about to sing a £300,000 a week contract at 21 years of age, as part of a young core with a young manager that are primed to compete at the top in the years to come. No chance he gives up the gravitas and status he has at Arsenal to join Man City man. It would be a crazy move. Well, Arsenal could go back to being 6th/7th, and Man City (or any other big club) could be the ones dominating the league and playing CL. Granted, it’s all very positive for Arsenal at present and there’s absolutely no chance of him leaving in the short term, but we’ve absolutely no idea how things will look in 5/10 years time. Mental to suggest any youngster is a lock in at any club for the rest of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, SteV said: Well, Arsenal could go back to being 6th/7th, and Man City (or any other big club) could be the ones dominating the league and playing CL. Granted, it’s all very positive for Arsenal at present and there’s absolutely no chance of him leaving in the short term, but we’ve absolutely no idea how things will look in 5/10 years time. Mental to suggest any youngster is a lock in at any club for the rest of his career. Coulda, woulda, shoulda ... That team is on the up, and like I already said he's not some foreign kid like Clichy, Sagna, Nasri or Adebayor that all left to join Man City as soon as the going got tough. He's an Arsenal fan that wants to get them to the top. Ah ... actually I've just realised why so many of you keep going on about this, it's the Arteta and Arsenal dislike coming through, and wishful thinking that they're going to lose their best players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Coulda, woulda, shoulda ... That team is on the up, and like I already said he's not some foreign kid like Clichy, Sagna, Nasri or Adebayor that all left to join Man City as soon as the going got tough. He's an Arsenal fan that wants to get them to the top. Ah ... actually I've just realised why so many of you keep going on about this, it's the Arteta and Arsenal dislike coming through, and wishful thinking that they're going to lose their best players Believe me, Arsenal are nowhere near the top of the dislike list… How many elite PL players have stayed at one club for their whole careers? Giggs, Gerrard (ignoring the MLS carry on). Anyone else? Absolutely bizarre to claim with total certainty that someone with the thick end of 15 years left is guaranteed to be at one club only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, KaKa said: Coulda, woulda, shoulda ... That team is on the up, and like I already said he's not some foreign kid like Clichy, Sagna, Nasri or Adebayor that all left to join Man City as soon as the going got tough. He's an Arsenal fan that wants to get them to the top. Ah ... actually I've just realised why so many of you keep going on about this, it's the Arteta and Arsenal dislike coming through, and wishful thinking that they're going to lose their best players I don't have any dislike for Arsenal (or Arteta) whatsoever. However, that sentence is incredibly naïve, especially to justify your opinion that he will never leave Arsenal for another Premier League club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, SteV said: Believe me, Arsenal are nowhere near the top of the dislike list… How many elite PL players have stayed at one club for their whole careers? Giggs, Gerrard (ignoring the MLS carry on). Anyone else? Absolutely bizarre to claim with total certainty that someone with the thick end of 15 years left is guaranteed to be at one club only. You're changing the narrative. This whole thing started with someone claiming we might be able to poach him when we start 'flexing our financial muscle'. Then talk of Man City poaching him in a similar manner came up. We're not talking about him moving on towards the later stages like when Henry joined Barca for example. We're talking about him leaving when he is still in his better years, and him being convinced to leave in those years by throwing money at him. In my opinion I just don't see that happening with him. He's already going to be incredibly well off financially and that number will continue to go up at Arsenal, because he is the face of that team and they will continue to pay him top money, because he is a huge asset both on and off the field. He is not some foreign player with no real ties to the club that will just go where the money leads. I can't see him going to another Premier League club ever. At most when he starts hitting around 29 he might go to a Barca or Real Madrid for the experience. Even then, I'm not even sure he even does that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Or alternatively he could look at Harry Kane at 30 and think shit... I don't want to be like that (obviously they could win the league this season). Arsenal are having a fantastic season but I think we should give it a year or two before crowning them as 'back;. Liverpool & Chelsea having poor seasons has opened the door a bit, let's see if they sustain it next season. They'll still be vulnerable to the like of Man City for a while yet, you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. Saka seems a canny kid - very humble - so who knows what he would do, but it's a short career and if Arsenal revert to Champions League challengers he might have other thoughts in a few years. But aye, he will never play for us. That I do agree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: You're changing the narrative. This whole thing started with someone claiming we might be able to poach him when we start 'flexing our financial muscle'. Then talk of Man City poaching him in a similar manner came up. We're not talking about him moving on towards the later stages like when Henry joined Barca for example. We're talking about him leaving when he is still in his better years, and him being convinced to leave in those years by throwing money at him. In my opinion I just don't see that happening with him. He's already going to be incredibly well off financially and that number will continue to go up at Arsenal, because he is the face of that team and they will continue to pay him top money, because he is a huge asset both on and off the field. He is not some foreign player with no real ties to the club that will just go where the money leads. I can't see him going to another Premier League club ever. At most when he starts hitting around 29 he might go to a Barca or Real Madrid for the experience. Even then, I'm not even sure he even does that. Who’s changing the narrative… ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 34 minutes ago, KaKa said: This is an absolutely shocking post. In your opinion, maybe. Not everything you post is fact though, so I'll shrug my shoulders at you casually Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 27/03/2023 at 23:18, KaKa said: Saka will never leave Arsenal for any other Premier League club. It's there in writing. Changing the narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: I don't have any dislike for Arsenal (or Arteta) whatsoever. However, that sentence is incredibly naïve, especially to justify your opinion that he will never leave Arsenal for another Premier League club. I don't think it's naive at all. If we asked every Newcastle native on this forum if they broke through at Newcastle at a young age like Saka has for Arsenal, and they were part of a young team taking Newcastle to the top, and were being paid very handsomely at the same time, if they could see themselves leaving for another Premier League club, I bet a lot wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: It's there in writing. Changing the narrative. I stood pat on that part though. I don't see him leaving to join another Prem club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, SteV said: Who’s changing the narrative… ?? You said 'Mental to suggest any youngster is a lock in at any club for the rest of his career.' I never said that, so no idea where that has come from. My very first post on this whole thing mentions Barca and Madrid, event though I still don't really see that happening, but if he does move it will be that sort of transfer later on just like Henry did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: You said 'Mental to suggest any youngster is a lock in at any club for the rest of his career.' I never said that, so no idea where that has come from. My very first post on this whole thing mentions Barca and Madrid, event though I still don't really see that happening, but if he does move it will be that sort of transfer later on just like Henry did. Alright I’ll rephrase: It’s mental to suggest any youngster will only ever play for one PL club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, SteV said: Alright I’ll rephrase: It’s mental to suggest any youngster will only ever play for one PL club. You need to remember that the rest of us on this forum are dumb, idiotic fools though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 He'll probably sign a new deal before the season is finished, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see Saka at City next season if Arsenal bottle the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 minute ago, SteV said: Alright I’ll rephrase: It’s mental to suggest any youngster will only ever play for one PL club. Okay, fair enough. I guess we'll have to disagree on that. I think playing for the club you actually support, that happens to be a top club, and one that you are leading back to prominence as the main man is the absolute dream. Hard to give that up IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 The bizarre thing here is that most of us probably agree with overall point that it’s very unlikely Saka will leave Arsenal in the foreseeable future, and even more unlikely he’ll end up with us. But it’s clearly not an impossibility that it will happen at some point. And I don’t really know why anyone would want to insist that it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Okay, fair enough. I guess we'll have to disagree on that. I think playing for the club you actually support, that happens to be a top club, and one that you are leading back to prominence as the main man is the absolute dream. Hard to give that up IMO. Hard, of course. Impossible, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Yeah, sure nothing is technically 'impossible', but I'm sure you understood the sentiment. He's not going to leave purely because some other team flexes some financial muscle which was the crux of this whole discussion. In my opinion something disastrous would have had to have gone down at Arsenal for that to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 58 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, sure nothing is technically 'impossible', but I'm sure you understood the sentiment. He's not going to leave purely because some other team flexes some financial muscle which was the crux of this whole discussion. In my opinion something disastrous would have had to have gone down at Arsenal for that to happen. Right. But you see how that's different to "Saka will never leave Arsenal for any other Premier League club"? And how someone disagreeing with that statement wouldn't necessarily be the result of some anti-Arsenal/Arteta bias? We've had less than one season of this current Arsenal so let's not get carried away that Saka is about to lead some dynasty. They're having an excellent season with some excellent young players & a manager who is getting a tune out of them but things can change very quickly in football whether you're Arsenal, Newcastle or whoever else. I can see plenty of circumstances in the future where Saka (Arsenal fan or not) thinks his career is best served elsewhere, other than just the lure of a bigger pay packet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, KaKa said: Yeah, sure nothing is technically 'impossible', but I'm sure you understood the sentiment. He's not going to leave purely because some other team flexes some financial muscle which was the crux of this whole discussion. In my opinion something disastrous would have had to have gone down at Arsenal for that to happen. He's not going to leave Arsenal any time soon, your sentiment is right on that, but he's barely past his teenage years at the moment. We've seen in the past very few players stay at one club in the Premier throughout their career. If at some point in his career he gets an offer from one of the big spending clubs to increase his salary by 50% who's to say he won't take it? A career is a not such a long time in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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