WilliamPS Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 hour ago, huss9 said: yeah he was average at best. super macolm allen on the other hand.... Allen was merely a poor mans Nicky Papavasiliou Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: There will be no Ben Arfa slander on here you pigs Very talented lad. Some great goals But if you've got people saying shay given isnt a modern Newcastle great then I'm definitely not having HBA as one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Different eras but Given was elite. Best keeper we've had in my lifetime by a mile. He genuinely would make saves that he had no right to make. Pope > Given Unless we are judging GK’s that never command their box. Distribution was poor too. Good shot stopper but Pope better… one v one I’d say the only thing he was better than Pope at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 7 minutes ago, LFEE said: Pope > Given Unless we are judging GK’s that never command their box. Distribution was poor too. Good shot stopper but Pope better… one v one I’d say the only thing he was better than Pope at. Admittedly Given never got a 60 yard assist from a throw but there's no way his distribution/kicking was worse than Pope's surely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Given tainted his reputation for me with the way he left. Especially after all his “love the club” nonsense he would spout when constantly linked to a move away. Pope, Dubs, Given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) Saying Given was 'elite' and 'miles' better than any other keeper we've had justifies why people brought him up as being overrated really. He definitely wasn't miles better than Pope, if at all, and Harper and maybe others. Was little between him and Harper in my humble opinion, Sir Bobby's esteemed opinion and for what its worth Ruud Gullits who dropped him for Harper and we didn't miss a beat for it. Miles better than Pope is Donnaruma/Schmeichel/Buffon levels Edited October 31, 2025 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, Jonas said: Saying Given was 'elite' and 'miles' better than any other keeper we've had justifies why people brought him up as being overrated really. He definitely wasn't miles better than Pope, if at all, and Harper and maybe others. Was little between him and Harper in my humble opinion, Sir Bobby esteemed opinion and for what its worth Ruud Gullits. Most made great saves and had great games and cost us goals and games. Given's no different there. I’m far from Given’s biggest fan but Harper was atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cheshire Mag said: I’m far from Given’s biggest fan but Harper was atrocious. Sir Bobby didn't think so. And he wasn't. Edited October 31, 2025 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Comparing Harper to Given. Good grief. 🤦♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 10 minutes ago, Cheshire Mag said: Given tainted his reputation for me with the way he left. Especially after all his “love the club” nonsense he would spout when constantly linked to a move away. Pope, Dubs, Given He is the 3rd highest ever appearance maker in our whole history. He could have left numerous times before he did. He was probably too loyal for his own good if anything Makes me laugh when people say this about Given when you think of how many fucking wankers who couldnt give a toss have played for us over the years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 14 minutes ago, Cheshire Mag said: Given tainted his reputation for me with the way he left. Especially after all his “love the club” nonsense he would spout when constantly linked to a move away. Pope, Dubs, Given Are you ranking Dubravka above Given because you actually think he was a better goalkeeper, or because Given wanted to leave a side managed by Joe Kinnear under Mike Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 18 minutes ago, Fak said: Admittedly Given never got a 60 yard assist from a throw but there's no way his distribution/kicking was worse than Pope's surely It was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, Fak said: Are you ranking Dubravka above Given because you actually think he was a better goalkeeper, or because Given wanted to leave a side managed by Joe Kinnear under Mike Ashley? I don’t blame Given for wanting to leave. It was such a disastrous mini era in a disastrous era. Given was a brilliant servant and continues to fly the flag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 7 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said: I don’t blame Given for wanting to leave. It was such a disastrous mini era in a disastrous era. Given was a brilliant servant and continues to fly the flag. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Given and Harper were close in the late ‘90s, but that was it - Given was by far the better over the following decade. And his distribution was definitely as bad as Pope’s. His GKs were like a fly half’s aiming for a line out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 52 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Allen was merely a poor mans Nicky Papavasiliou Allen knew were the net was, very underrated CF, somehow long forgotten at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 (edited) No idea what Shaka or Pavs kicking/distribution was like but is Ramsdale the first keeper we've had in 30 odd years whose kicking/distribution isn't average at best Edited October 31, 2025 by Fak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 minute ago, Fak said: No idea what Shaka or Pavs kicking/distribution was like but is Ramsdale the first keeper we've had in 30 odd years whose kicking/distribution isn't average at best Srnicek was decent with the ball at his feet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Srnicek was decent with the ball at his feet Until he got caught with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Is this for any player or just newcastle players? I'd go gravenberch, Enzo Fernández,skelly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Srnicek was decent with the ball at his feet What are you memories of Christian Bassedas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 3 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Until he got caught with it. oh aye, which happened far too often. Leicester away is still my favourite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, Fak said: What are you memories of Christian Bassedas? I decided to erase all memories of 2000/01 from my head so I cannot recall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, Fak said: What are you memories of Christian Bassedas? He was okay wasn't suited to the league though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted October 31, 2025 Share Posted October 31, 2025 Just now, andycap said: He was okay wasn't suited to the league though. What about Cordone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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