gjohnson Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 33 minutes ago, FLUMPO235 said: No one knows what it is, but it’s provocative. It gets the people going. It's some wonderfull imaginary number that dorks use to slam their team when they lose, and praise them when they win. So in the real non-spreadsheet world its nothing more than the fantasies of wannabe statisticians Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) xG= shoulda, woulda, coulda Same as the lad who reckons he was nailed on to pull at least 3 scorchers on his night out, but he actually went home on his own for a pot noodle and a wank Edited December 24, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: xG= shoulda, woulda, coulda Same as the lad who reckons he was nailed on to pull at least 3 scorchers on his night out, but he actually went home on his own for a pot noodle and a wank So basically what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: xG= shoulda, woulda, coulda Same as the lad who reckons he was nailed on to pull at least 3 scorchers on his night out, but he actually went home on his own for a pot noodle and a wank No comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, gjohnson said: So basically what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: xG= shoulda, woulda, coulda Same as the lad who reckons he was nailed on to pull at least 3 scorchers on his night out, but he actually went home on his own for a pot noodle and a wank You've never walked out of the match and said "we were lucky, they missed three sitters they'd put away on another day" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, madras said: You've never walked out of the match and said "we were lucky, they missed three sitters they'd put away on another day" ? Aye, I have. Many times But I’ve never walked out of the match and talked about our xG and why it would potentially improve if our number 10 was swapped with a number 6 who can play by an inverted double pivot Edited December 24, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: Aye, I have. Many times But I’ve never walked out of the match and talked about our xG and why it would potentially improve if our number 10 was swapped with a number 6 who can play by an inverted double pivot It's basically the same thing. Higher xG just means more better chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, madras said: It's basically the same thing. Higher xG just means more better chances. I know that, but why not just say we created a few / loads of chances that are / aren’t being converted to goals Why the need to talk in some new statto language that means absolutely nowt to most ordinary people Maybe I’m just getting old Edited December 24, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Just now, bobbydazzla said: I know that, but why not just say we created chances that are / aren’t being converted to goals Why the need to talk in some new statto language that means absolutely nowt to most ordinary people Maybe I’m just getting old It’s not perfect and I don’t fully understand it. But isn’t it just a way of putting all of that first paragraph into a number for analysis purposes? Obviously if you’re talking about your team down the pub with mates. You’re going to talk about specific chances and goals we should have scored. I think it’s a great tool to have to help form part of a bigger argument and debate. But pretty pointless in isolation or to use it as the be all and end all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said: xG= shoulda, woulda, coulda Same as the lad who reckons he was nailed on to pull at least 3 scorchers on his night out, but he actually went home on his own for a pot noodle and a wank I hope he washed his hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: It’s not perfect and I don’t fully understand it. But isn’t it just a way of putting all of that first paragraph into a number for analysis purposes? Obviously if you’re talking about your team down the pub with mates. You’re going to talk about specific chances and goals we should have scored. I think it’s a great tool to have to help form part of a bigger argument and debate. But pretty pointless in isolation or to use it as the be all and end all. Are we creating chances, are we converting those chances, are we scoring more than the opposition. That’s all 99% of fans need to discuss about attacking threat Unless someone is a professional data analyst then referring to xG as a reason why results aren’t as bad as they appear to be is merely a comfort blanket for hipsters after dropped points Edited December 24, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 you have to be a professional data analyst to use xG as part of your analysis and reviews of previous games and form? Righto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Are we creating chances, are we converting those chances, are we scoring more than the opposition. That’s all 99% of fans need to discuss about attacking threat Unless someone is a professional data analyst then referring to xG as a reason why results aren’t as bad as they appear to be is merely a comfort blanket for hipsters after dropped points That is all that number represents. It isn't perfect and it isn't the only thing to look at but it's something quantified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) Down the pub having a sociable pint, discussion turns to who pulled last night Lad 1 says, chatted up a couple of lasses but didn’t seal the deal so I went home for a pot noodle and a wank Lad 2 gets his spreadsheet out and says, well my xG says I created enough chances to pull, so even though I went home alone for a pot noodle and a wank I’m still feeling confident that I won’t be a virgin forever No one goes for a sociable pint with Lad 2 ever again Edited December 24, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Mahoneys Tache said: I hope he washed his hands. Nah...adds to the flavour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanegg Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Down the pub having a sociable pint, discussion turns to who successfully pulled last night Lad 1 says, chatted up a couple of lasses but didn’t seal the deal so I went home for a pot noodle and a wank Lad 2 gets his spreadsheet out and says, well my xG says I created enough chances to pull, so even though I went home alone for a pot noodle and a wank I’m still feeling confident that I won’t be a virgin forever No one goes for a sociable pint with Lad 2 ever again Lad 2 is probably a person for a coffee rather than a pint. Lad 2 is probs me? Different minds work different ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 Jesus Christ. Go to bed, lads. It's nearly Xmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said: Jesus Christ. Go to bed, lads. It's nearly Xmas. Almost time for a turkey & stuffing flavoured pot noodle and a festive wank wearing a santa hat on my bell end Edited December 24, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: No comment. He’s a good friend of mine and a bloody good poster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 24, 2023 Share Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: He’s a good friend of mine and a bloody good poster And not only is his dad a copper but he’s a bloody big bugger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 What a bizarre conversation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Cf said: What a bizarre conversation Anyway. Help bobbydazzla settle in, and if he does have any trouble from other posters then what should he do… @TheBrownBottle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Ooh, feminist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Those dobermans will be getting spoilt this morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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