Anthony Gordon

[The Butcher]

 

[Optimistic Nut]

A lot on that list were out-and-out wingers where teams had 2 strikers. So if one striker got 20+, the other around 12, around 7-8 would be a good return for a winger if they were getting the assists. Wingers these days should be getting around 10-12 a season minimum given there's only one striker and a lot are cutting in on their strong foot. 

[Weezertron]

There was one moment where the ball was going out for a Arsenal goal kick and Gordon didn't chase it, and I yelled at the TV for him to do so. 

 

And then out of nowhere, Tino who was further away from the ball than Gordon was managed to keep the ball in play. 

 

 

[Coffee_Johnny]

4 hours ago, Madrigal said:

The way I judge an attacking player is what skillset do they possess if they lose their pace (possible serious injury)? Our best players across the pitch - Isak (finishing), Tonali (anticipation, set pieces), Bruno (press resistance, through balls), Botman (heading, passing, anticipation).
 

Even Barnes (elite finishing) and Murphy (crossing, shooting),albeit an inferior player, offers more attacking threat if pace is impacted.
 

Gordon is becoming predictable without the likeability factor of our other players. Although I feel he can improve further and we shouldn’t seek to actively sell him, if there is a deal to be done we should take the money - more LW options out there in the market.

Don’t get the tide turning (for some) re Gordon. He has been unplayable at times and relentless most of the time. Nobody, particularly of the speed merchant forward variety, is on top form all the time. He’ll come good and can be a key part of a successful side for years to come. Personally really hope that side is us. And he is incredibly ‘likeable.’ 

[The College Dropout]

20 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

A lot on that list were out-and-out wingers where teams had 2 strikers. So if one striker got 20+, the other around 12, around 7-8 would be a good return for a winger if they were getting the assists. Wingers these days should be getting around 10-12 a season minimum given there's only one striker and a lot are cutting in on their strong foot. 

It’s also a cherry picked stat. Gareth Bale had something like 25 goal contributions in 30 games when he won Player of the year. It’s just that 20+ were goals. 

 

15 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

There was one moment where the ball was going out for a Arsenal goal kick and Gordon didn't chase it, and I yelled at the TV for him to do so. 

 

And then out of nowhere, Tino who was further away from the ball than Gordon was managed to keep the ball in play. 

 

 

Aye man.  It’s these things that will make Gordon a target for ridicule. A lot of his attributes are down to well channeled aggression and graft. But he seems to lose it easily. His head goes down.  I guess he’s a sensitive lad. Digging him out won’t help.  He’s not Rooney Bellamy type where if he’s frustrated he’ll close everything down. 

[Izakaya]

He's knackered physically and mentally, needs an enormous hypersleep rest. Been playing almost non stop for two years. 

 

Wouldn't start him against Everton. Wouldn't regardless tbh he's always anonymous against them iirc. 

[wong989]

To me he's looked completely different since he supposedly got offered to Liverpool, body language has been completely different since, he doesn't look at all like the enthusiastic lad he was the season before.

[Geordie Ahmed]

What is with this rewriting of his performances this season?

 

Are people actually serious about saying he's been poor all season? It's absolutely nonsense

 

He's definitely been poor since the League Cup semi final but prior to that he was very good

 

 

[Heron]

7 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

What is with this rewriting of his performances this season?

 

Are people actually serious about saying he's been poor all season? It's absolutely nonsense

 

He's definitely been poor since the League Cup semi final but prior to that he was very good

 

 

He wasn't like.

 

He's not been anywhere near last seasons levels all season. He went through a spell of getting goals and assists but hasn't shown the same attitude (as last season) all season. One of the reasons WFs did the display versus Man City was to perk him up as it seemed he needed it.

 

He is clearly a very good and impactful player on his day but this season has displayed that on very few occasions.

 

He also has less goal involvements than both Barnes and Murphy in 1 less game than Murphy and one more than Barnes.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Heron

[Geordie Ahmed]

Just now, Heron said:

He wasn't like.

 

He's not been anywhere near last seasons levels all season. He went through a spell of getting goals and assists but hasn't shown the same attitude (as last season) all season. One of the reasons WFs did the display versus Man City was to perk him up as it seemed he needed it.

 

He is clearly a very good and impactful player on his day but this season has displayed that on very fee occasions.

 

I'm not saying he was as good as last season but he's definitely not been poor or shite all season

 

Think he was okay at the start of the season but kicked on in December but unfortunately been terrible since early Feb

 

 

[johnny36]

A decent break with his young family, recharge the batteries and good pre-season and Gordon will be better next Season

Got to remember he gave up nearly all his Summer Holidays last year sitting on the bench with England, .missing out on time with his newborn child ..Form is temporary

[Heron]

Just now, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

I'm not saying he was as good as last season but he's definitely not been poor or shite all season

 

Think he was okay at the start of the season but kicked on in December but unfortunately been terrible since early Feb

 

 

People know how good he can be and consistenly can be as a result. Therefore, he has been poor - because he isn't playing to his capability.

[Geordie Ahmed]

2 minutes ago, Heron said:

People know how good he can be and consistenly can be as a result. Therefore, he has been poor - because he isn't playing to his capability.

 

Hmmm, I don't know like, not playing as well as a previously high level is not something I'd describe as poor or shite but each to their own

 

 

[Heron]

4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

Hmmm, I don't know like, not playing as well as a previously high level is not something I'd describe as poor or shite but each to their own

 

 

The difference is that players like Gordon are considered talented and Murphy not. Murphy gets a rough ride for the vast, vast majority of the time - even when he's playing out his skin (in terms of form) and players like Gordon get an easy ride even when he's not performing to his best (or even well) is my view.

 

He deserves his criticisms - because his attitude is wrong. If his attitude wasn't wrong, I'd not be on his back (personally). I absolutely love Murphy because he is an absolute model pro and role model.

 

He also has less goal involvements than both Barnes and Murphy in 1 less game than Murphy and one more than Barnes.

 

(The last paragraph is from my previously edited post which may have been missed.)

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Heron

[TheBrownBottle]

3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

A lot on that list were out-and-out wingers where teams had 2 strikers. So if one striker got 20+, the other around 12, around 7-8 would be a good return for a winger if they were getting the assists. Wingers these days should be getting around 10-12 a season minimum given there's only one striker and a lot are cutting in on their strong foot. 

Yep.  Wingers in a 4-4-2 are wide midfielders, and in a 4-3-3 they’re wide forwards.  You’d 100% expect a better goal return from a modern winger. 

[Abacus]

1 hour ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

 

I'm not saying he was as good as last season but he's definitely not been poor or shite all season

 

Think he was okay at the start of the season but kicked on in December but unfortunately been terrible since early Feb

 

 

 

I reckon he wasn't great at the start of this season. There was some speculation on here at the time that the possible Liverpool switch might have turned his head.

 

It might be that the stats don't back that up, I don't know. Not having a go at him, I think he's class and on his day unplayable. But Barnes to me has added more on LW late this season, and Murphy is better than either at RW. What a season he's had.