England’s Anthony Gordon

[et tu brute]

Just now, madras said:

As much as I love the BBC to say that it only reports verified info is a stretch.

The fuckers covered Jimmy Saville's back for years 

[Matt1892]

Just now, et tu brute said:

The fuckers covered Jimmy Saville's back for years 

Let’s not turn the Anthony Gordon thread in to a Jimmy Saville one.

[Vinny Green Balls]

And football journalism is the absolute pits. It’s all based on speculation and dodgy sources but treated as gospel. I would have been proscribed as persona non grata if I was as unreliable in my documentary work.

[et tu brute]

4 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

Let’s not turn the Anthony Gordon thread in to a Jimmy Saville one.

No it's fully illustrating the BBC are not always correct or honest

 

 

Edited July 1, 2024 by et tu brute

[Matt1892]

Just now, et tu brute said:

No it's fully illustrating the BBC are not al has correct or honest

Vote Reform, they will sort the BBC out.

[Matt1892]

That’s a joke by the way.

 

Don't vote for those cunts.

[madras]

Just now, et tu brute said:

No it's fully illustrating the BBC are not al has correct or honest

Are you saying they actually knew or was it they pulled a Newsnight report because they shit themselves after getting burnt on Cliff Ricahrd ?

[Vinny Green Balls]

Jesus Christ. Given 1882’s track record, if the BBC reported the opposite, he’d argue about its unreliability

[Matt1892]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

Jesus Christ. Given 1882’s track record, if the BBC reported the opposite, he’d argue about its unreliability

I like how you have no real idea about football, so talk about other random things instead. 
 

Such an endearing quality.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Matt1892 said:

I like how you have no real idea about football, so talk about other random things instead. 
 

Such an endearing quality.

How do you know that? Oh yeah, your classic assumptions. Based on very little. You demonstrate that you don’t know much about anything, but your head is stuck straight up the asshole of Dunning-Kruger. Clown.

 

[simonsays]

A source can be verified without what he/she says being true.  People get that, right?

[The Prophet]

It was reported by Mandeep Sanghera, who is their Liverpool correspondent. 

[huss9]

8 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said:

I can chime in on this one (don’t have any info on Anderson or Minteh, but do on this).

 

We didn’t offer him to Liverpool. Liverpool did enquire a couple of weeks ago, and again at some point last week, but we said no. No intentions of selling him at all.
 

AG is absolutely fine and perfectly happy here. No issues. No “heads turned”. Just clickbait guesswork journalism. Some of his family have just moved up here too.

shadow puppets vs paully.

who wins the itk.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, et tu brute said:

The fuckers covered Jimmy Saville's back for years 

They should have probably covered his dick instead? 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Once again they go with a story from a Brazilian novel from 2003 when it comes to the event that started the Great War.

Either the BBC was formed a decade before it actually was and reported this as news, or you’re referring to a story on the website which wasn’t a news story - and therefore not relevant. 

[TheBrownBottle]

I haven’t a clue on the truth of the Gordon story tbh.  I’m open to either story being true. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

11 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Either the BBC was formed a decade before it actually was and reported this as news, or you’re referring to a story on the website which wasn’t a news story - and therefore not relevant. 

I cited a 2003 bbc novel in my first post (a few posts before what you quoted), which I assume that you

didn’t read. For some strange reason, both the BBC and American news sites cited the sandwich story since that novel came out, which is the first time a sandwich was ever mentioned. Smithsonian did an interesting investigation into it. I found it when I was listening to a BBC News audio walkthrough of Sarajevo when I was there for a festival in 2018. 

 

 

Edited July 1, 2024 by Vinny Green Balls

[TheBrownBottle]

25 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

I cited a 2003 bbc novel in my first post (a few posts before what you quoted), which I assume that you

didn’t read. For some strange reason, both the BBC and American news sites cited the sandwich story since that novel came out, which is the first time a sandwich was ever mentioned. Smithsonian did an interesting investigation into it. I found it when I was listening to a BBC News audio walkthrough of Sarajevo when I was there for a festival in 2018. 

 

 

 

Got you

 

It’s a daft story, and does how those sort of narratives can become ‘history’ (tbf, my understanding from reading various Great War histories was always that Princip’s opportunity was the result of the car turning down the wrong street and it’s also where Princip happened to be following the earlier attempted assassination attempt.  No mention of sandwiches from memory - though whether he was eating one or not hardly seems like the biggest historical slip-up). 

[McDog]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Got you

 

It’s a daft story, and does how those sort of narratives can become ‘history’ (tbf, my understanding from reading various Great War histories was always that Princip’s opportunity was the result of the car turning down the wrong street and it’s also where Princip happened to be following the earlier attempted assassination attempt.  No mention of sandwiches from memory - though whether he was eating one or not hardly seems like the biggest historical slip-up). 

 

 

Depends entirely on what sort of sandwich is alleged to have been eaten. These things matter.

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Got you

 

It’s a daft story, and does how those sort of narratives can become ‘history’ (tbf, my understanding from reading various Great War histories was always that Princip’s opportunity was the result of the car turning down the wrong street and it’s also where Princip happened to be following the earlier attempted assassination attempt.  No mention of sandwiches from memory - though whether he was eating one or not hardly seems like the biggest historical slip-up). 

That’s likely how it happened. The archduke had the route changed but the driver got confused and took the old route back. It was after a failed attempt earlier. The car as not supposed to turn on the original route. Princips was stationed there in case the first attempt didn’t go through.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, McDog said:

 

 

Depends entirely on what sort of sandwich is alleged to have been eaten. These things matter.

I was once given a cheese and onion sandwich in Greggs when asking for a cheese one.  I could’ve happily went on a shooting spree after biting into it.  Fucking hate onions, me

[Vinny Green Balls]

It’s not a big historical slip up at all, but it illustrates how even the BBC has helped spread bullshit stories (less than others mind you). And no one bothered to ask why a Serb would be eating a sandwich in Sarajevo in 1914. Sandwiches weren’t a thing there back then. Strangely it’s almost exclusively British and American news that still reports this on retrospectives, despite the source likely being that novel.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2024 by Vinny Green Balls

[McDog]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

I was once given a cheese and onion sandwich in Greggs when asking for a cheese one.  I could’ve happily went on a shooting spree after biting into it.  Fucking hate onions, me

 

 

Whilst I totally believe you about the mix up. I assume if you ordered a cheese sandwich at Greggs you were in the United Kingdom. Therefore your story is suspect in that you would never be packing heat and completely ready to fire. Now if you had been in the USA, well then..........

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

It’s not a big historical slip up at all, but it illustrates how even the BBC has helped spread bullshit stories (less than others mind you). Strangely it’s almost exclusively British and American news that still reports this on retrospectives, despite the source likely being that novel.

True, which can absolutely happen with unvetted stories - and no news outlet is perfect; but the BBC does have exacting editorial standards re its news output (and I agree re coverage of Israel/Palestine particularly the terms used in relation to either side - though I wouldn’t expect the Beeb to put out the stuff I’ve seen shared on social media etc).

[Vinny Green Balls]

I’ve come across a lot of serious puzzling bullshit in my line of work.