TheBrownBottle Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 17 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Should take the cunts back to court for blocking the takeover again. We'd be challenging for the league without these rules and the delay in takeover. We'd also have a right winger. It might be worth remembering how it was being blocked - via the threat of putting MBS through a FPPT, which he would undoubtedly fail (as most dictators would). The paying off of BEIN dropped their issues, and there is little doubt that PIF would have made guarantees to the PL to play by the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Literally nothing has changed from what we knew. Some of the APT rules were judged to be against UK law - and the PL was going to redraft the offending articles. Their redrafts may also fall foul of it. The PL cocked up with their hastily rewritten rules. That doesn’t mean the end of the rules. I’d be surprised if we have any benefit gained between 21-24. The ones who should be troubled are those who had director debts not accumulating interest. Going to start calling you Custer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 So does every deal still need to meet "Fair Market Value"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, McDog said: So does every deal still need to meet "Fair Market Value"? For now, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, McDog said: So does every deal still need to meet "Fair Market Value"? 2 minutes ago, JT24 said: For now, yes. But if we have deals turned down, then the latest rules are also found to be null and void... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Has anything changed that lets us compete? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Going to start calling you Custer Tbh we are still in the ‘wait and see’ territory. The majority of PL clubs want rules in place - a handful of those rules running aground doesn’t mean that the PL won’t engage lawyers to try to nail the wording. They’re not just going to back down and walk away. I’ve no interest in the excitable views of the football press, who report based on what they want to happen rather than knowledge of what is happening. Martin Samuel for example is a long-standing critic of the rules (with good reason of course). It’s all agenda-driven. When the PL rule book is changed, that’s when it’s over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Peppe said: Has anything changed that lets us compete? Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJake Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 26 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: They all knew it was corrupt as feck but said nothing.. now the morals come out. Samuels has been forthright in his opposition to Saudi ownership but has been consistent in his opposition to the anti competitive system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Aye I'm in the been here before and heard this so called good news shite but nowts changed camp as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mase Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Ben said: Wasn't Masters like the last choice for the job ? It's obvious he's a patsy with no power, TBF, I'd do his job. Looks like he was Liverpool and Man United’s first choice https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7988919/amp/Premier-League-rivals-furious-Liverpool-Man-United-allowed-vet-league-CEO-candidates.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 14 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Literally nothing has changed from what we knew. Some of the APT rules were judged to be against UK law - and the PL was going to redraft the offending articles. Their redrafts may also fall foul of it. The PL cocked up with their hastily rewritten rules. That doesn’t mean the end of the rules. I’d be surprised if we have any benefit gained between 21-24. The ones who should be troubled are those who had director debts not accumulating interest. But perhaps will change if their amendments fall foul too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggies Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Depends whether we had any sponsorship deals rejected by PL between 2021 to 2024. If we did, then today does change things. If not, then we’re waiting on the ruling on the current rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Fucking hate this shit. How is forcing clubs to constantly sell their best players making anything "fair" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Scoot said: But perhaps will change if their amendments fall foul too. Agreed, it might well do - they were hastily drafted. But they could also redraft again. At some point, you’d hope, this ends. The PL has been absolutely stupid in not compromising. I also don’t think this ends until the Man City case does - which could be some time. Man City’s actions are more than a bit dodgy, mind. But there’s a lot of premature excitement re this - nothing has changed in months, and this isn’t an update. We knew all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I bet Nick the bread man's phone is going mental, I hope we had him on friends and family and were at the front of the queue for his services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 7 minutes ago, LordJake said: Samuels has been forthright in his opposition to Saudi ownership but has been consistent in his opposition to the anti competitive system He's done a bit of a 180 for me over the last few years. Similar to Simon Jordan, couldn't stand the cunt when he was full on calling out Amanda Staveley on the regular but more recently he's calling a spade a spade with regards the rules and all the PSR bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 20 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Literally nothing has changed from what we knew. Some of the APT rules were judged to be against UK law - and the PL was going to redraft the offending articles. Their redrafts may also fall foul of it. The PL cocked up with their hastily rewritten rules. That doesn’t mean the end of the rules. I’d be surprised if we have any benefit gained between 21-24. The ones who should be troubled are those who had director debts not accumulating interest. If the rules were declared null and void how can the PL amend rules that shouldn’t have been there as they’re illegal, void? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Under APT rules 21/24 my query is, do we have a claim against the PL for not being allowed to get sponsorship deals from those affiliated to our owners?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Even if we didn’t put any deals forward between that time, surely we put some forward now, knowing the new rules that were introduced will likely be challenged too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, FloydianMag said: If the rules were declared null and void how can the PL amend rules that shouldn’t have been there as they’re illegal, void? They already amended them. The entire rulebook wasn’t found to be illegal and void - the panel picked out three items. It’s not illegal to adjust those rules to reflect the judgement or the assumed legal requirements. Again, nothing has changed - the rules that were adjusted back in November remain in place, and I didn’t see us bagging loads of sponsors and splashing the cash in January. Let’s see what happens to the adjusted rules and the PL’s response if they’re ruled to be illegal too. Until then, it is status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Time to unveil our official Christmas jumper sponsor. £50 million sounds about right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Matt1892 said: Even if we didn’t put any deals forward between that time, surely we put some forward now, knowing the new rules that were introduced will likely be challenged too. They are being challenged, that’s what APT is about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, wyn davies said: Under APT rules 21/24 my query is, do we have a claim against the PL for not being allowed to get sponsorship deals from those affiliated to our owners?. Not unless we can show that we had a sponsorship deal rejected by the PL. We don’t know if this has happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Love how the PL are completely imploding in an attempt to essentially stop Man Utd and Tottenham dropping down one place in the league yet they’re 13th and 14th anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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