NUFC91 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TheGuv said: I didn’t get in on the ballot Should of just stuck in on nufc.co.uk and got people to add supporters number... Can anyone outline what it says? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Just said this: View this email online Newcastle United supporters were recently invited to share their views on the prospect of safe standing at St James’ Park via an online survey. This survey has provided us with important data to help us understand how much of a priority the implementation of safe standing is for Newcastle United fans. We would now like to invite you to participate in a Fan Working Group to discuss licensed standing in designated seated areas for home fans as we look to provide facilities most reflective of our fans’ needs. The format will be smaller discussion groups and is an opportunity for you to put forward your ideas and give feedback on this area. Thank you. Location: Four Corners, Level 2, St James’ Park, NE1 4ST When: Wednesday 8th March 2023. Arrival is 5.30pm, discussion groups start 6pm for 60 minutes followed by feedback. Finish time is 8pm Refreshments: Tea and Coffee is provided No of Attendees: Limited spaces available We will allocate places via a ballot and you will be notified by Tuesday 7th March at 12pm by email. Please regsiter your attendance via the link below. REGISTER HERE SHARE THIS EMAIL Unsubscribe from these emails Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 There’s been a drop out so I can now attend. Can people come back with any views/thoughts on where and why they think the safe standing should be?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobbydazzla Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGuv said: There’s been a drop out so I can now attend. Can people come back with any views/thoughts on where and why they think the safe standing should be?! All of Strawberry Corner then stretch round into Gallowgate lower tiers, ideally all way to Milburn corner. Large swathes of people already stand in these areas so there's a precedent and the change would get less resistance from "sitters" I'd imagine. Leazes should get a big section too although it's a while since I've been in there so not sure of best areas to convert. Some of the best atmosphere I've experienced since we went to 52,000 was the L7 singing section. Setting up similar in a lower tier would be ideal so the noise carries both up and down. Edited March 8, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jack j Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 It would just be eerily quiet like that Bournemouth game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 35 minutes ago, LFEE said: It's good to know that this stuff is now being more widely talked about amongst the fanbase. And the DJ problem is one of the easy ones to address. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Wandy said: And the DJ problem is one of the easy ones to address. Edited March 8, 2023 by polkaDot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I'd be pushing for the entire Gallowgate. I was at Stamford Bridge last night and got to say the atmosphere there was brilliant. Really took me by surprise and a large % of the crowd being stood up definitely helped. You had the lower section of the Matthew Harding stand (around 6k) stood the entire match (that is a safe standing area) and the entire Shed End which is also a safe standing area and holds around 6.5k was also stood the entire match although around 2.5k of those in that area were Dortmund fans. So that's well over 12k safe standing places they've made available, which is roughly the same as the capacity of the Gallowgate End. We were in the West Stand and many in there were also stood for a lot of the match despite it being a seated area. One thing I noticed was that they seem to have a younger fanbase than we do. Ours seems to be either old men or young families but not much in between and many at Chelsea were in the 20-40 age group which clearly helped with the atmosphere as it had a really vibrant feel about it and also explains why a large proportion of tbe crowd stood. Standing definitely helps when it comes to atmosphere. After last night I'm more convinced than ever that standing massively improves atmosphere. We need to go all out to make sure we get as many safe standing places as possible at SJP. Hope it all goes well for you tonight and that it's very productive@TheGuv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 On the telly I could see quite a few people sitting in the safe standing at Chelsea last night, which surprised me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: I'd be pushing for the entire Gallowgate. I was at Stamford Bridge last night and got to say the atmosphere there was brilliant. Really took me by surprise and a large % of the crowd being stood up definitely helped. You had the lower section of the Matthew Harding stand (around 6k) stood the entire match (that is a safe standing area) and the entire Shed End which is also a safe standing area and holds around 6.5k was also stood the entire match although around 2.5k of those in that area were Dortmund fans. So that's well over 12k safe standing places they've made available, which is roughly the same as the capacity of the Gallowgate End. We were in the West Stand and many in there were also stood for a lot of the match despite it being a seated area. One thing I noticed was that they seem to have a younger fanbase than we do. Ours seems to be either old men or young families but not much in between and many at Chelsea were in the 20-40 age group which clearly helped with the atmosphere as it had a really vibrant feel about it and also explains why a large proportion of tbe crowd stood. Standing definitely helps when it comes to atmosphere. After last night I'm more convinced than ever that standing massively improves atmosphere. We need to go all out to make sure we get as many safe standing places as possible at SJP. Hope it all goes well for you tonight and that it's very productive@TheGuv Sounds like it was really good. And yes, it's got to be the whole Gallowgate. It can't be the Leazes either, since having a home "singing end" that is actually directly below the away fans is just asking for trouble. The more I think about it, the more I believe it's important that the club do NOT offer more season tickets for availability in the summer. Not until this issue is addressed about moving people around and creating safe standing/singing sections. With about 15,000 spare pay-on-the-day spaces currently available, this may be the last opportunity to address a problem that actually goes back even further than the Ashley years, as the rot really started when Freddie Fletcher decided that long-term season ticket holders could freely be booted out of their seats to create that dreadful Bond Scheme. The real shame abut that awful move was that it affected one of the best singing sections in the ground, as all of the loud singing people in the Leazes wing of the Milburn stand got shifted. Absolutely appalling that was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, Wandy said: Sounds like it was really good. And yes, it's got to be the whole Gallowgate. It can't be the Leazes either, since having a home "singing end" that is actually directly below the away fans is just asking for trouble. The more I think about it, the more I believe it's important that the club do NOT offer more season tickets for availability in the summer. Not until this issue is addressed about moving people around and creating safe standing/singing sections. With about 15,000 spare pay-on-the-day spaces currently available, this may be the last opportunity to address a problem that actually goes back even further than the Ashley years, as the rot really started when Freddie Fletcher decided that long-term season ticket holders could freely be booted out of their seats to create that dreadful Bond Scheme. The real shame abut that awful move was that it affected one of the best singing sections in the ground, as all of the loud singing people in the Leazes wing of the Milburn stand got shifted. Absolutely appalling that was. Moving some of our most loyal (and definitely loudest) fans out of the Milburn Stand Leazes Wing to make way for the Platinum Club still is to this day an absolute disgrace. Fletcher/Shepherd/Hall couldn't give a shite about the atmosphere, it was always about the coin up front which is why we had over 33k season ticket holders in a 36.5k stadium which locked 1000s out of ever seeing NUFC at home and ruined the atmosphere and it's never recovered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Moving some of our most loyal (and definitely loudest) fans out of the Milburn Stand Leazes Wing to make way for the Platinum Club still is to this day an absolute disgrace. Fletcher/Shepherd/Hall couldn't give a shite about the atmosphere, it was always about the coin up front which is why we had over 33k season ticket holders in a 36.5k stadium which locked 1000s out of ever seeing NUFC at home and ruined the atmosphere and it's never recovered. Couldn't agree more with this!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Moving some of our most loyal (and definitely loudest) fans out of the Milburn Stand Leazes Wing to make way for the Platinum Club still is to this day an absolute disgrace. Fletcher/Shepherd/Hall couldn't give a shite about the atmosphere, it was always about the coin up front which is why we had over 33k season ticket holders in a 36.5k stadium which locked 1000s out of ever seeing NUFC at home and ruined the atmosphere and it's never recovered. Yep, which goes back to my earlier point that we need to freeze the distribution of any more season tickets for the foreseeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Judging by my tweet I’m massively in the minority on where it should go (Leazes Level 4 as a first choice). However, I’ll certainly be making it clear that Gallowgate Upper is also in a minority…I believe the club are trying to push this as their desired choice. Imo, that would be the worst of all worlds tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Entire Gallowgate, absolutely perfect. Gallowgate Upper only, absolutely pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TheDimpleboy said: Yep gallowgate upper only would be really poor tbh Just don't see the point. Invisible and inaudible to huge parts of the rest of the ground. Just do the full stand. Token gestures are pointless. Edited March 8, 2023 by Wallsendmag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 The lower Gallowgate is really tight (as in your knees squashed in front of the seat in front) - I don't think there's space there for safe standing without restructuring the steps (and reducing capacity a little?). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 @TheGuv leazes for me less ST holders means less agro and more buy in for club. Even if its somewhere that isnt priority still a start. I think more fans who stand there than anything. 3k of lads wanting to be heard will improve st james Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 100 here. 3000 applied. I’m probably the youngest here by a canny chunk… (I’m 29) Edited March 8, 2023 by TheGuv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheGuv said: 100 here. 3000 applied. I’m probably the youngest here by a canny chunk… (I’m 29) who's there from the club? Ealesy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Think most obvious point is we ballot for who wants to stand there, no point just adding seats to areas where people cba. Also which ever area has biggest capacity to hold safe standing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I think safe standing behind one of the goals would have the most dramatic impact, as long as it's filled with vocal supporters, otherwise it's will have no impact at all. Would be nice to see some of the locked out former season ticket holders allowed back in as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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