Guillaume Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 He must be wanting away and can't blame him, Osula or Gordon are Eddie's only thoughts up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Magpie Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Antipode23 said: I think this would be sensible. Eddie has really bottled things spectacularly this season, so do I think it's plausible to say he's misusing Woltemade? Absolutely. Then there's the fact he STARTS, up FRONT, for Germany. Weird thing to happen if he's just crap. There's the other fact that when he starts up front for us, we get much better results: 9 starts up top = 20 points - We were earning just over two points per match, a pace that would have us comfortably in Europe. 23 starts without him up top = 22 points - Earning less than a point in the standings per match with Anthony/Wissa/Osula up top. We'd be shitting our pants in the relegation battle at that pace. Hell, at this rate, we still might be before the season's up.. (Editor's Note: I realize this is an incredibly simplistic view of things, but I just cannot get my head around what Eddie's doing this season. He's just incapable of changing tactics and formations.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Sell. Get as much back as we can, he's not built for the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 11 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Sell. Get as much back as we can, he's not built for the PL. In what respect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 hours ago, Mountain said: He's a baller. His confidence and aura has been totally Howed out of him unfortunately. Osula is a baller and has nothing but confidence. But the difference is he's physically equipped for the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Magpie Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 20 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Sell. Get as much back as we can, he's not built for the PL. Not sure about that, but it seems clear he's not built for an Eddie Howe system. Also clear that Eddie only has one trick in his bag, so it's best for Nick and the team to move him if Howe is back next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 30 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Sell. Get as much back as we can, he's not built for the PL. I would quite like to see him have a proper pre-season here and see how he looks, but I do kind of agree. Can't really wait around and see his value drop further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, DC Magpie said: Not sure about that, but it seems clear he's not built for an Eddie Howe system. Also clear that Eddie only has one trick in his bag, so it's best for Nick and the team to move him if Howe is back next year. What team in the PL do you think he can work in at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funtime Frankie Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, dcmk said: What team in the PL do you think he can work in at the moment? Bournemouth played yesterday three behind Evanilson with Krouppi in behind This would be ideal for him playing behind Osula with two wingers close to him with midfielders running past him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 31 minutes ago, dcmk said: Osula is a baller and has nothing but confidence. But the difference is he's physically equipped for the PL. What does "physically equipped for the PL" mean. I'm not being a dick, I just don't understand what is meant by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Funtime Frankie said: Bournemouth played yesterday three behind Evanilson with Krouppi in behind This would be ideal for him playing behind Osula with two wingers close to him with midfielders running past him. Issue is he doesn't have the physical attributes to play that unfortunately. At least not yet. He can't get around the pitch fast enough, and gets dispossessed very easily when the ball comes into his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 He's a bit of a footballing unicorn in so far as if the system is in place to benefit him and his skillset then he'll look amazing and make everything tick. But anything other than that and he struggles a bit, he needs the whole environment to be built solely around him for him to produce and I don;t think there's many teams that can do that. On the flip side I do think he's been mismanaged since November/Decemberish. He was playing and scoring as a makeshift 9 then Wissa got fit and that somehow mysteriously made things worse rather than better. He got rested and moved about to cover other positions etc and he's subsequently fallen off a cliff since then. He looks beaten, demoralised and generally sad as a result and it's not all his fault imo. I think he's got masses of ability but under Howe and the 433, unless something drastic changes, then he'll probably need to move on for the sake of his career. He's going to be fucking brilliant for someone very very soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Brilliant as a creator or as a goalscorer? I think he's still a massively unknown quantity in regards to his finishing. I don't know if he has the striker's instinct. It's not like we signed him after he tore it up in the Bundesliga, it was just 12 goals which isn't out special in that league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Infinitely Content said: Brilliant as a creator or as a goalscorer? I think he's still a massively unknown quantity in regards to his finishing. I don't know if he has the striker's instinct. It's not like we signed him after he tore it up in the Bundesliga, it was just 12 goals which isn't out special in that league. I think more as a creator but he'll still score quite a few. Not sure the rough and tumble of the PL suits him too much but in the right team in the right league he'll be dynamite for someone, just no idea who will make it happen. Just a hunch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Hard to know who that may be really, as you say the type of player he is probably requires an entire system being built around him to compensate his glaring weaknesses and shortcomings; and for me I don't think he's even close to being good enough to warrant that. Perhaps a team like Bayern, who could win their league sleepwalking most years. Maybe he can be the next Choupo-Moting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Not suited to the PL or our system. Panic buy after so many went other places.transfer strategy was a disaster and has affected the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 33 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What does "physically equipped for the PL" mean. I'm not being a dick, I just don't understand what is meant by it. Well he’s slow, very weak, and seemingly can barely jump off the ground. After his good start defenders started bullying him out of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Kimbo said: Well he’s slow, very weak, and seemingly can barely jump off the ground. After his good start defenders started bullying him out of games. And for being an apparent technical wizard, he fails to get the ball under control so often when he gets it to feet and loses possession so easily and cheaply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 15 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Well he’s slow, very weak, and seemingly can barely jump off the ground. After his good start defenders started bullying him out of games. I agree be gets bulied, lots of that is he's far too honest though. I'm not saying dive like Gordon, but if you don't make it obvious you've been fouled, you'll get nothing. There's been plenty of languid, slower players in the Premier League who've gone on to be a massive success though. They just didn't play in a dysfunctional attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Magpie Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 hour ago, dcmk said: What team in the PL do you think he can work in at the moment? I don't know enough about it to say, to be honest. i would say a team that plays a true 9 and has wings closer and running off him. I do know that watching a 6'7" striker try to play a high press and/or play midfield is like watching a giraffe try to fuck a bowling ball, however. He was almost magical when he got here, and I just cannot believe that his form and confidence have devolved to such an extent. I pin that on Eddie. But it's clear those two can't coexist, so whether it's back to Bundesliga or another EPL team, for his own sanity I hope they are not both here next year. It's painful to watch frankly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 28 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I agree be gets bulied, lots of that is he's far too honest though. I'm not saying dive like Gordon, but if you don't make it obvious you've been fouled, you'll get nothing. There's been plenty of languid, slower players in the Premier League who've gone on to be a massive success though. They just didn't play in a dysfunctional attack. Who are they in recent years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) He's just too delicate and passive - soft as clarts like a few others in the team. Seems to have as much aggression as self belief. I've said it all year, he's a decent footballer but folk go on like he's Zidane - he never attacks a ball, the box or shoots. He's weak and not suited to the PL. Edited April 12 by Sandrotastico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I have a bias here but I think he's genuinely shite, nothing for me strikes me to someone I think will be successful in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 He'll be class in a league that requires zero strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, El Prontonise said: I have a bias here but I think he's genuinely shite, nothing for me strikes me to someone I think will be successful in the PL. Kinda what I believe but was being a little kinder. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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