Terrymac1966 Posted Sunday at 20:26 Share Posted Sunday at 20:26 5 minutes ago, black_n_white said: Reluctantly I think we should sell Woltemade after the World Cup. There’s no world Howe uses him as a striker, I’m not even sure he’s suited to the premier league. Sooner get rid of Howe and play square pegs in square holes for a change... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted Sunday at 20:41 Share Posted Sunday at 20:41 He just feels like this era's Tomasson. He'll no doubt have a cracking career, just don't think the Premier League is for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Sunday at 20:47 Share Posted Sunday at 20:47 20 minutes ago, Terrymac1966 said: Sooner get rid of Howe and play square pegs in square holes for a change... Oh dear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Sunday at 20:56 Share Posted Sunday at 20:56 I like how we’ve concluded that Howe will never, ever play him as a striker when he was played exclusively as a striker until Wissa came back and Bruno got injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted Sunday at 21:00 Share Posted Sunday at 21:00 Bought a Woltemade 27 home top today in the sale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted Sunday at 21:01 Share Posted Sunday at 21:01 I doubt he’ll be here in September. Osula is our number one striker and I think we’d rather he was backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Sunday at 21:06 Share Posted Sunday at 21:06 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: He just feels like this era's Tomasson. He'll no doubt have a cracking career, just don't think the Premier League is for him. He feels almost designed for Serie A to me - I could see him being a massive hit there with the slower pace of the game married to that more tactical & technical style. Edited Sunday at 21:06 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Monday at 07:50 Share Posted Monday at 07:50 Came on for Wirtz and played a deeper role yesterday... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted Monday at 08:22 Share Posted Monday at 08:22 Having watched the game, i would say that is very selective compilation tbh. They exchanged positions with Musiala for some instances yes, but he clearly played as the striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Monday at 08:24 Share Posted Monday at 08:24 11 hours ago, oldtype said: I like how we’ve concluded that Howe will never, ever play him as a striker when he was played exclusively as a striker until Wissa came back and Bruno got injured. Anything we don't like is interpreted as permanent it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elephant Posted Monday at 10:34 Share Posted Monday at 10:34 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: Came on for Wirtz and played a deeper role yesterday... I’m Finn and I watched the game yesterday. At the same time Woltemade and Sane came in, Finland switched to 5 defenders and after that it was absolutely pointless for both teams till the end. Wolte did play as number nine. There was absolutely no space there anymore but he did keep his position pretty well there. Edited Monday at 10:35 by Elephant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted Monday at 10:56 Share Posted Monday at 10:56 I still maintain that he is a good footballer, has a good touch normally and looks tidy on the ball. But, I don't think he's a good enough striker to play there, and I don't rate him higher than out and out midfielders if he were to play in a deeper role. Some of that is down to a lack of physicality and general ability to cover the ground. Seems a top guy, but just not a good fit for us in the PL I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted Monday at 11:10 Share Posted Monday at 11:10 14 hours ago, oldtype said: I like how we’ve concluded that Howe will never, ever play him as a striker when he was played exclusively as a striker until Wissa came back and Bruno got injured. I personally don’t think it was exclusively because of those two things. Woltemade just does not fit in how Howe likes to set up, and was clearly not happy with him up top. Wissa was Isak’s replacement and I argued this last summer and he’s failed miserably. Rather us try redeem some funds this summer and go get another pacy forward, clearly selling Woltemade is more realistic than Wissa for a number of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 22:51 Share Posted Monday at 22:51 11 hours ago, black_n_white said: I personally don’t think it was exclusively because of those two things. Woltemade just does not fit in how Howe likes to set up, and was clearly not happy with him up top. Wissa was Isak’s replacement and I argued this last summer and he’s failed miserably. Rather us try redeem some funds this summer and go get another pacy forward, clearly selling Woltemade is more realistic than Wissa for a number of reasons. Wissa was Wilson’s replacement was always my understanding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 02:23 Share Posted yesterday at 02:23 3 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Wissa was Wilson’s replacement was always my understanding This is correct but the plan was to integrate nick slowly and not throw him in. A lot of talk over the summer centered around us wanting to play two up top (I find that hard to believe personally). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted yesterday at 06:36 Share Posted yesterday at 06:36 7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Wissa was Wilson’s replacement was always my understanding I’m not so sure, Wissa was more like for like whereas Woltemade was an unknown quantity and completely different player to Isak. I think people go by transfer fee alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 08:00 Share Posted yesterday at 08:00 1 hour ago, black_n_white said: I’m not so sure, Wissa was more like for like whereas Woltemade was an unknown quantity and completely different player to Isak. I think people go by transfer fee alone. Wissa was replacing the experience of Wilson - we were bidding much lower numbers on him early in the window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted yesterday at 08:01 Share Posted yesterday at 08:01 Well the picture was changing. Wissa was meant to provide guaranteed PL goals while we integrated Woltemade I assume. It doesn’t necessarily map exactly onto Isak/Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted yesterday at 10:20 Share Posted yesterday at 10:20 If we want to be one of the challengers we have to get an aspirational figurehead signing upfront Isak really suited the optics behind the PIF project because he was literally one of the best not yet elite strikers around and so it gave us credibility as a serious place for signings. Bruno and Tonali also have that gravitas. It needs a Lautaro Martinez or Osimhen or that ilk to rebuild that aura. Especially because we don't have a CB like a Van Dijk type who can be considered like that. Ekitike would have been perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 10:24 Share Posted yesterday at 10:24 Genuinely think if we actually had a firm plan for him from the outset last season, based on the player he has been previously i.e. playing him as a support striker with a more mobile, hard working runner of a striker ahead of him (even if that was Osula once Wissa got injured), we'd be laughing right now as he would have fully adjusted by now and settled into that position and put in much better performances. Failure of the coaching staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted yesterday at 12:58 Share Posted yesterday at 12:58 2 hours ago, KaKa said: Genuinely think if we actually had a firm plan for him from the outset last season, based on the player he has been previously i.e. playing him as a support striker with a more mobile, hard working runner of a striker ahead of him (even if that was Osula once Wissa got injured), we'd be laughing right now as he would have fully adjusted by now and settled into that position and put in much better performances. Failure of the coaching staff. The coaching staff have absolutely failed - not disagreeing with that, but I honestly don’t see how anyone can be on board with Woltemade as a supporting striker. He’s got virtually nothing needed to play in that position in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted yesterday at 13:02 Share Posted yesterday at 13:02 Just now, Ronaldo said: The coaching staff have absolutely failed - not disagreeing with that, but I honestly don’t see how anyone can be on board with Woltemade as a supporting striker. He’s got virtually nothing needed to play in that position in the PL. You know you may well be right. But you'd hope he'd be actually played in that position like he had previously, as that is where he had success. We've barely played him there though, and so have no real idea of whether he might have been able to adjust and change some parts of his play to better make it work in a different league. Instead here we are going into his second season with no real idea, and essentially starting from scratch with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted yesterday at 21:31 Share Posted yesterday at 21:31 Canny piece going through the history of Woltemades career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted yesterday at 23:28 Share Posted yesterday at 23:28 On 01/06/2026 at 08:50, The Prophet said: Came on for Wirtz and played a deeper role yesterday... "VOLTEMADEEY" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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