Mowen Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 In second place is Newcastle United captain Scott Parker who was a key figure in the Magpies' steady recovery during December. His side played a mammoth seven games in the month, winning four of them, with Parker notching his side's third goal in their 3-1 win against Spurs. He also ended the month with one assist and made 25 tackles in the heat of the engine-room. He only played in 3 Premiership games and we lost 2 of them, in the 4 games he didn't play we won 3 and lost 1 (away to Chelsea) More relevant than the Opta stats? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 the statistics are tricky to trust completely - but i do believe that they can serve as a pointer and that parker is a great player, and that he receives much too much stick on here. my only beef with him is that he sometimes takes too much time on the ball - but as mentioned, he is no worse than so many other players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Stats are only useful when they prove we've been the 5th best club in the last decade tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nobby peru Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 the statistics are tricky to trust completely - but i do believe that they can serve as a pointer and that parker is a great player, and that he receives much too much stick on here. my only beef with him is that he sometimes takes too much time on the ball - but as mentioned, he is no worse than so many other players! Totally agree - sky sports news end of year stats also had him with most tackles of any premier player. he's not perfect, but he's very good. last season he was outstanding and this season he's done well, coming back from illness and injury and playing through injury. can't believe there are so many people at the match ready to jump on his back any time he misplaces a pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Can I say it's the proof that he tackles too much outside his own area and leaves space for the opponent at centre? It is definitely ok to let him do the tackle work WHEN he is not the sole defensive midfielder. What I wanna point out is that his problem is positioning but not tackling, which a DMC really needs. Well, I will be fucked up here I know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Can I say it's the proof that he tackles too much outside his own area and leaves space for the opponent at centre? It is definitely ok to let him do the tackle work WHEN he is not the sole defensive midfielder. What I wanna point out is that his problem is positioning but not tackling, which a DMC really needs. Well, I will be fucked up here I know... Well you can say that, but it isn't proven by those stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Parker is a class playr we are lucky to have him! he can't be MOM every game ya knAA!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 1 win, 1 draw and 2 defeats since he came back. Hardly being pivotal to our great revival is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thompers Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Should be considered objective vindication of Parker from all the cynics. Not absolute evidence, but surely a step in the right direction. The man's not Gerrard people, but he's still class. Bleeeeeeeet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 He's shit! Apparently.... Don't think these starts are ever completely accurate in telling you how someone has played but the way some people go on about him you would think he was the worst player ever to wear the black and white shirt! :roll: He's average as an individual and his partnership with Emre is shit, would be much more accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 He's shit! Apparently.... Don't think these starts are ever completely accurate in telling you how someone has played but the way some people go on about him you would think he was the worst player ever to wear the black and white shirt! :roll: He's average as an individual and his partnership with Emre is shit, would be much more accurate. :roll: Ok! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 BTW Some outstanding posts in this thread from people who obviously place more credence on a stat' than the evidence of their own eyes and brain. Talk about people clutching at straws tbh. We play better with any centre pairing that hasn't included Parker, there's not a shadow of doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Individual statistics can never tell the full story. It's the impact that a player makes on the team's performance as a whole which counts. And there's no evidence that Parker's presence is a boost to the team, however good he looks as an individual. He's got the potential to do better, but has become too conservative. Any player's pass completion stats would look better if they only passed the ball sideways or backwards. (I exaggerate to make the point) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Statistics can be used to prove anything, 62% of all people know that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Jenas was one of our highest ranking opta stats players. I think they are irrellevant and you should judge a player by what you see on the pitch. From my judgement Parker has been good at times, poor at others, not captain material. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Parkers game amounts to tackle, turn on the ball, lose the ball. The team plays much better when he isn't in it, that is a fact. Just because some numpty at OPTA saw he made 25 tackles isn't vindication for me. He's still vastly overrated by alot of people and certainly isn't one of our most important players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Parkers game amounts to tackle, turn on the ball, lose the ball. The team plays much better when he isn't in it, that is a fact. Just because some numpty at OPTA saw he made 25 tackles isn't vindication for me. He's still vastly overrated by alot of people and certainly isn't one of our most important players. I agree, but http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,34840.20.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 He's shit! Apparently.... Don't think these starts are ever completely accurate in telling you how someone has played but the way some people go on about him you would think he was the worst player ever to wear the black and white shirt! :roll: He's average as an individual and his partnership with Emre is shit, would be much more accurate. :roll: Ok! Just pointing out yet another double standard on your part, particulary relevant following the rush of abusive and rude PM's you sent me a couple of days ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Parkers game amounts to tackle, turn on the ball, lose the ball. The team plays much better when he isn't in it, that is a fact. Just because some numpty at OPTA saw he made 25 tackles isn't vindication for me. He's still vastly overrated by alot of people and certainly isn't one of our most important players. I agree, but http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,34840.20.html Bollocks. He's not class, he's average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Parkers game amounts to tackle, turn on the ball, lose the ball. The team plays much better when he isn't in it, that is a fact. Just because some numpty at OPTA saw he made 25 tackles isn't vindication for me. He's still vastly overrated by alot of people and certainly isn't one of our most important players. I agree, but http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,34840.20.html Bollocks. He's not class, he's average. At his best he's average. His effect on the rest of the team is what really counts though, and that is poor. As you said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Parkers game amounts to tackle, turn on the ball, lose the ball. The team plays much better when he isn't in it, that is a fact. Just because some numpty at OPTA saw he made 25 tackles isn't vindication for me. He's still vastly overrated by alot of people and certainly isn't one of our most important players. I agree, but http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,34840.20.html Bollocks. He's not class, he's average. At his best he's average. His effect on the rest of the team is what really counts though, and that is poor. As you said. As you spend your whole life telling us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Parkers game amounts to tackle, turn on the ball, lose the ball. The team plays much better when he isn't in it, that is a fact. Just because some numpty at OPTA saw he made 25 tackles isn't vindication for me. He's still vastly overrated by alot of people and certainly isn't one of our most important players. I agree, but http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php/topic,34840.20.html Bollocks. He's not class, he's average. At his best he's average. His effect on the rest of the team is what really counts though, and that is poor. As you said. As you spend your whole life telling us. ....in response to others first telling us he's 'class'. Don't expect you to notice that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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