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16 minutes ago, cubaricho said:


Isn’t that the rub though? This demographic of supporters are currently locked out from what it seems like is being said on here?  More seats in a new stadium with only a modest increase in STs creates much more opportunity for non-boomers to attend matches and have themselves a blast and create an atmosphere. 


I’ll also double down on this that there needs to be one of those “kop” stands behind the goal in the new Gallowgate end that has no season tickets and a flat price for every match. Safe standing. First come first served. That stand would be absolutely rocking. 

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2 hours ago, Stifler said:

Aye but the first one not only has our existing stands, it also rebuilds a classic Ashley era Gallowgate end outside of it for those who are still locked out.

 

 

 

Two Gallowgate stands!?

Why not build four Gallowgate stands on four different locations across the city. That must be good for the revenue, and that is the most important in todays football!

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45 minutes ago, duo said:

It won't bring in the corporate revenue which is what we need

 

There is not the demand, business nor the affluence in the north east to consistently fill corporate sections that there is in London or even Manchester. (assuming corporate areas of a stadium is what you mean by this)

 

 

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1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

There is not the demand, business nor the affluence in the north east to consistently fill corporate sections that there is in London or even Manchester. (assuming corporate areas of a stadium is what you mean by this)

 

 

 

It’s not people from NE who would be likely buying up the corporate sections

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Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s not people from NE who would be likely buying up the corporate sections

 

Thousands of people who aren't arsed in the ground for upwards and beyond of 500 bar ahead of actual fans. What joy.

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The comments in Edwards article are quite interesting, i’m predicting Emma Dixon is the new Dolly Potter.

 

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Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

As a native and local, I completely agree with you. Newcastle is not an add-on to a wretched football stadium and nor should it become one. I think this plan outrageous, although some of my nearest and dearest disagree with me.

 

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Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

You’re wrong there. That said, as a native of Newcastle I’m totally against SJP encroaching on Leazes Park.

 

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Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

I would help build them if this plan goes ahead.

 

ED

Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

The cost of lots of things could be deemed ‘prohibitive’; let’s pull down and pave over the lot eh?

 

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Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

His argument is not persuasive at all. Newcastle is not a football club with city attached.

 

On a positive note.

 

 

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Paul Baptist4 HRS AGO

I assume the stadium will be state of the art but do you think it’ll be a statement stadium something like Sofi stadium in the US?

 

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Luke EdwardsTELEGRAPH3 HRS AGO

From what I'm told it will be up there with the very best of the modern stadiums anywhere in the world!

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1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Thousands of people who aren't arsed in the ground for upwards and beyond of 500 bar ahead of actual fans. What joy.

Agreed.  But it happened in the ‘90s, too.  Football deserted its traditional fan base by pricing them out decades ago - why do you think the ground is full and the atmosphere is shite?  You don’t get groups of young working class lads going to the match anymore.  Priced out and ticketed out.  And anyone who thinks that the slush fund of a foreign dictatorship and a family of tax-dodging Tory billionaires are more likely to give a shit about where the matchday revenue is coming from than the local businessmen who ran the club back then needs a good shake.  

 

This is also why the ‘big six’ don’t have all ST stadiums - even though they easily could.

 

Football was sold off to the highest bidder yonks ago.

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3 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

 

On a positive note.

 

 

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Paul Baptist4 HRS AGO

I assume the stadium will be state of the art but do you think it’ll be a statement stadium something like Sofi stadium in the US?

 

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Luke EdwardsTELEGRAPH3 HRS AGO

From what I'm told it will be up there with the very best of the modern stadiums anywhere in the world!

The thing is, as shown in this thread, what makes a stadium ‘good’, at least design-wise, is subjective.

 

Spurs stadium is widely regarded within the industry to be the best of the best, yet some people in here believe it to be shite. 
 

So whatever they come up with (if that’s the route we’re going down), it’ll split opinion, at least to some degree.

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3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Agreed.  But it happened in the ‘90s, too.  Football deserted its traditional fan base by pricing them out decades ago - why do you think the ground is full and the atmosphere is shite?  You don’t get groups of young working class lads going to the match anymore.  Priced out and ticketed out.  And anyone who thinks that the slush fund of a foreign dictatorship and a family of tax-dodging Tory billionaires are more likely to give a shit about where the matchday revenue is coming from than the local businessmen who ran the club back then needs a good shake.  

 

This is also why the ‘big six’ don’t have all ST stadiums - even though they easily could.

 

Football was sold off to the highest bidder yonks ago.

 

The ground was at it's best in terms of atmosphere at 32-36k in the 90s though from what I've read on here. And grounds are full and atmospheres naff across the entire pyramid besides one offs or scenarios where circumstances are right. The likes of Anfield and SJP included in that. True regarding the owners btw, they couldn't give a fuck. Any PL fan who goes to the match solely for the match, doesn't buy anything in the ground and leaves after FT to go to the pub away from the ground, PL club directors/owners hate them.

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20 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

There is not the demand, business nor the affluence in the north east to consistently fill corporate sections that there is in London or even Manchester. (assuming corporate areas of a stadium is what you mean by this)

 

 

 

I've heard there are 100+ businesses on the corporate box "waiting list." Just what I've heard. From both current and ex box owners

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12 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

The comments in Edwards article are quite interesting, i’m predicting Emma Dixon is the new Dolly Potter.

 

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Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

As a native and local, I completely agree with you. Newcastle is not an add-on to a wretched football stadium and nor should it become one. I think this plan outrageous, although some of my nearest and dearest disagree with me.

 

ED

Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

You’re wrong there. That said, as a native of Newcastle I’m totally against SJP encroaching on Leazes Park.

 

ED

Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

I would help build them if this plan goes ahead.

 

ED

Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

The cost of lots of things could be deemed ‘prohibitive’; let’s pull down and pave over the lot eh?

 

ED

Emma Dixon2 HRS AGO

His argument is not persuasive at all. Newcastle is not a football club with city attached.

 

On a positive note.

 

 

PB

Paul Baptist4 HRS AGO

I assume the stadium will be state of the art but do you think it’ll be a statement stadium something like Sofi stadium in the US?

 

Reply by Luke Edwards.

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Luke EdwardsTELEGRAPH3 HRS AGO

From what I'm told it will be up there with the very best of the modern stadiums anywhere in the world!

Never ever take notice of what people who comment on newspaper articles say. They are only beaten to being the worst and thickest of humanity by those who comment on porn videos, many of them are the same people.

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39 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

East Stand still having the benches in dates that photo at between 1988-1991.

Absolutely loved the benches. Standing on them to look back at the TV replays in those prefab type boxes !

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22 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Thousands of people who aren't arsed in the ground for upwards and beyond of 500 bar ahead of actual fans. What joy.

 

Sounds a bit like what you get nowadays tbf, minus the 500 bar [emoji38]

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Its really difficult to pass comment on this without seeing the renders.

Could look amazing, really inspiring and show us what the next 100 years for the club could look like.

Alternatively it could look a generic, souless corporate bowl.

 

I think St James has been an amazing home for the past 130 odd years, like many of you I was taken by my dad at a young age and he was taken by his. My son is 5 and has already been twice.

 

That said, times change. Its the only constant after all. St James will be part if our history whatever happens next, nothing takes those memories away. 

 

I embrace the direction the club choose to go next. Whether we play in a garden shed or a 70k super stadium, I'm black and white. Forever.

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5 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

The ground was at it's best in terms of atmosphere at 32-36k in the 90s though from what I've read on here. And grounds are full and atmospheres naff across the entire pyramid besides one offs or scenarios where circumstances are right. The likes of Anfield and SJP included in that. True regarding the owners btw, they couldn't give a fuck. Any PL fan who goes to the match solely for the match, doesn't buy anything in the ground and leaves after FT to go to the pub away from the ground, PL club directors/owners hate them.

It’s the grim reality of modern football - shined up, packaged off and sold to the highest bidder.  The horse has well and truly bolted.  International tourists is who most big club owners want through the door - people who will come and spend as much money on merchandising tat and food and drink as possible.  Joe Bloggs having a few pints in the Bulls with his mates and rocking up at ten to three every week is who they wanted a few years back.  
 

It is all shite :) but I suspect unfixable at this point.  Which is why - from a deeply cynical point of view - I think the club needs to do what they’re likely going to do anyway.  

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16 minutes ago, JLC said:

Absolutely loved the benches. Standing on them to look back at the TV replays in those prefab type boxes !

 

Was hilarious. Used to annoy the hell out of the people in the boxes everyone peering in to watch the replays [emoji38]

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