Guest Hodgson09 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I had just read that from newsnow, very intriguing, I wonder what wages the players are on as the cheapest tickets are 3 pound. Interesting but it would never happen in England, not sucessfully anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 3-1 NYD Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Yes excellent article, thanks for posting. Was in Gelsenkirchen (twinned with Newcastle) last summer for the Argentina/Serbia game. Something to reflect on whilst I crick my neck at Vicarage Road this afternoon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Stuttgart won it in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Schadenfreude = Skadefryd in Norwegian, btw. I hold no schadenfreude over Schalke what so ever btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SLK Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Amazing article...Thanks a lot Toon Army... Wow...My respect for Schalke...I never felt close to any Bundesliga team before but after reading this, I find it now interesting to follow Schalke's news next season... Imagine if the same culture was embraced here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest killers_perm Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Fantastic article, many thanks for the posting & please keep them & your thoughts/opinions coming. Imagine if we had the cordination to manage even a slow build up of support/clapping & cheering as we approached kick off, would certainly make for an excellent start to any game - the only time I remember us managing anthying similar was the Barca match 97 when the tannoy guy decided to kill the music 10 mins before ko and just let the fans make the noise Now we have to endure his choice of crap music blasted out right up until the teams are in the tunnel - no wonder fans feel disconnected with the club ! Maybe Big Sam should add stadium announcer and dj into his backroom team of experts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 That's what fan power is about man. Genius. Amazing. The paragraph about the 19 minutes of silence followed by that goal is simply sensational. Special moments, what football's all about. Imagine the scene!! The home team scoring and is basically met by utter f****** silence. Not a whisper (according to my German mate). Just nothing. Nothing but silence. Then the clapping starts, and continues, and builds and builds until it reaches a crescendo. It reaches a moment of nearly deafening noise-level, followed by a thunderous strike that was 1 second after the 'protest' was supposed to end. Written by a perfect hollywood writer, that script was. That's the stuff of legends man. That is what football's all about. I'm in awe of the whole thing. Loved the article. Youtube has a short and not so good quality fan video of the clapping leading up to 19:04 and then the hysteria as they score. Search for: "sound of silence an end!" Mods, please remove if this is not allowed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Tell you what then. If this board is "just for the lads" then you must all be gay. You can fuck off back to the kitchen if you're making generalizations like that love... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Tell you what then. If this board is "just for the lads" then you must all be gay. You can fuck off back to the kitchen if you're making generalizations like that love... Really stupid comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Tell you what then. If this board is "just for the lads" then you must all be gay. You can f*** off back to the kitchen if you're making generalizations like that love... Really stupid comment. Only if you take it seriously, pet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Maybe Big Sam should add stadium announcer and dj into his backroom team of experts Not if it's anything like Bolton's, thanks very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 good stuff. It makes me angry/jealous how some clubs are ran and welcome fan involvement with open arms, and then I think of the clueless gobshite we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 How does the ticketing system in Germany work - in other words how can they afford to charge next to nowt and still be a regular feature in European football, not just Schalke but the others don't charge much AFAIK. Can one of our German residents (I'm looking at you Parky and Ozzie) fill me in? Income it generated totally different in German football. Sponsorship, especially shirt deals contribute far more to the general income than ticket sales (e.g. the mentioned deal with Gazprom). The article is a bit very rose tinted. Schalke have suffered a lot from the way the club is run in the past, e.g. voted absolute nutters and simpletons for president in AGMs. Their recent success is to a certain extent down to in fact reducing fan power. To call them the most popular fans in Germany is also stretching it a bit (a huge bit tbh). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 How does the ticketing system in Germany work - in other words how can they afford to charge next to nowt and still be a regular feature in European football, not just Schalke but the others don't charge much AFAIK. Can one of our German residents (I'm looking at you Parky and Ozzie) fill me in? Income it generated totally different in German football. Sponsorship, especially shirt deals contribute far more to the general income than ticket sales (e.g. the mentioned deal with Gazprom). The article is a bit very rose tinted. Schalke have suffered a lot from the way the club is run in the past, e.g. voted absolute nutters and simpletons for president in AGMs. Their recent success is to a certain extent down to in fact reducing fan power. To call them the most popular fans in Germany is also stretching it a bit (a huge bit tbh). Is exactly right. The club has been run by eejits for yonks now, and they chop and change managers almost every year, preferring a series of mediocre managers (trainers, as the Germans call them) to having the sense to chase and hire a really good manager and let him get on with the job for a few seasons. I also wouldn't say they're the *best* fans in Germany, given that a large proportion are "Asis" (the German equivalent of chav/scally etc.), but they do really worship the club (there's nothing else to live for in Gelsenkirchen), and there is always a fantastic atmosphere in the Veltins Arena. EVERY game is a complete sellout, be it Bayern, a pre-season friendly or InterToto. The Freundschaftsspiele against Nuremberg are incredible. 65,000 fans mingling in complete safety and about 10 policemen. The atmosphere is totally boss when Nuremberg are in town. In theory, I like the sports club idea, whereby the club essentially belongs to no-one and is run by the members' (i.e. fans') votes. It provides some kind of recourse against your club being taken over by the likes of Peter Risdale or, dare I say it, Freddie Shepherd. In practice, the fans often elect exactly these kind of tools (like at Real Madrid). Again and again and again. As an aside, Schalke has the rather dubious honour of being Hitler's favourite club. As the "workers' club", they were heavily supported by the Nazi regime, and six of their seven Bundesliga titles came during the Third Reich. Finally, here's a pic I took in (and of) the Nordkurve. Those are the Ultras where all the flags are. There's a guy who stands on a little platform at the front with a megaphone, co-ordinating the sining. I swear, he doesn't see a second of the match. http://momama.net/images/Auf-Schalke.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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