Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. You just don't seem to be able to accept positives so have to throw in a dig or sarcastic comment if others seem to be talking about anything that could potentially be good for Newcastle United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. It's commonly known as optimism. Some people have some for the first time in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. You just don't seem to be able to accept positives so have to throw in a dig or sarcastic comment if others seem to be talking about anything that could potentially be good for Newcastle United. Don't seem to be able to accept perceived positives as fact? Yup, thats one of my problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. It's commonly known as optimism. Some people have some for the first time in years. And realists are castigated. Fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 You just seem to find a negative in everything, I bet if you just found out you won the lotto your first thought would be "oh fuck my relatives will probably want some" or something along those lines. If we appointed Wenger instead of Allardyce and he found out Drogba has a secret release clause that allowed him to leave for £3m you would moan that Wenger is french so would probably treat us like the others have and Drogba isnt good enough for us because he dives. I honestly don't think you could be positive and remain positive for more than 3 posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. It's commonly known as optimism. Some people have some for the first time in years. And realists are castigated. Fantastic. I'm not castigating anyone. People are entitled to their opinions and an awful lot of people are upbeat for the first time since Bobby had us top 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. It's commonly known as optimism. Some people have some for the first time in years. And realists are castigated. Fantastic. In a roundabout way I think you're the one who is being unrealistic, in that you're so incessantly and overly negative. Why must everything to do with the club be negative in your eyes? Some of us are optimistic about things for once, none of us are saying he'll transform the entire squad, but for once a lot of us think we've actually got a future to look forward to. No-one is exaggerating what effect he could have on the club, as it stands no-one knows. But the signs are good, that's all. It's called hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. He also chooses the players he thinks he can get more out of – carefully, even to the point of psychological profiling. He's not a magician who can wave his magic clipboard at any old donkey and transform him into a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I'm just more bothered about whether the team will get better under him tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 You just seem to find a negative in everything, I bet if you just found out you won the lotto your first thought would be "oh fuck my relatives will probably want some" or something along those lines. If we appointed Wenger instead of Allardyce and he found out Drogba has a secret release clause that allowed him to leave for £3m you would moan that Wenger is french so would probably treat us like the others have and Drogba isnt good enough for us because he dives. I honestly don't think you could be positive and remain positive for more than 3 posts. Ooh, there's a challenge i'm obligated to rise to. Not, clearly. You are again making judgements of someone you know fuck all about, but you just continue if it makes you feel better. I am not comfortable joining in the hero worship and ridiculous statements, and no doubt i will continue to be accused of being negative - as opposed to honest - for it. Hey ho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. It's commonly known as optimism. Some people have some for the first time in years. And realists are castigated. Fantastic. In a roundabout way I think you're the one who is being unrealistic, in that you're so incessantly and overly negative. Why must everything to do with the club be negative in your eyes? Some of us are optimistic about things for once, none of us are saying he'll transform the entire squad, but for once a lot of us think we've actually got a future to look forward to. No-one is exaggerating what effect he could have on the club, as it stands no-one knows. But the signs are good, that's all. It's called hope. You've no idea what is positive or negative "in my eyes", other than what i have posted here. You think i am "overly" negative. Well i disagree, but i'm clearly in the wrong, because you obviously have a formal scale of allowed negativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. He also chooses the players he thinks he can get more out of carefully, even to the point of psychological profiling. He's not a magician who can wave his magic clipboard at any old donkey and transform him into a footballer. But he is someone who can get the best out of someone players so its perfectly acceptable that some people might have a little hope that he may get some of our vast number of underperforming players playing a lot better. As Melan said, NM, as usual is being over negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. But i'm still in the wrong to point out the near-hysterical hero worship. It's commonly known as optimism. Some people have some for the first time in years. And realists are castigated. Fantastic. In a roundabout way I think you're the one who is being unrealistic, in that you're so incessantly and overly negative. Why must everything to do with the club be negative in your eyes? Some of us are optimistic about things for once, none of us are saying he'll transform the entire squad, but for once a lot of us think we've actually got a future to look forward to. No-one is exaggerating what effect he could have on the club, as it stands no-one knows. But the signs are good, that's all. It's called hope. You've no idea what is positive or negative "in my eyes", other than what i have posted here. You think i am "overly" negative. Well i disagree, but i'm clearly in the wrong, because you obviously have a formal scale of allowed negativity. It's called an opinion, or a view. Or what's appears to be the case. Etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 You just seem to find a negative in everything, I bet if you just found out you won the lotto your first thought would be "oh fuck my relatives will probably want some" or something along those lines. If we appointed Wenger instead of Allardyce and he found out Drogba has a secret release clause that allowed him to leave for £3m you would moan that Wenger is french so would probably treat us like the others have and Drogba isnt good enough for us because he dives. I honestly don't think you could be positive and remain positive for more than 3 posts. Ooh, there's a challenge i'm obligated to rise to. Not, clearly. You are again making judgements of someone you know fuck all about, but you just continue if it makes you feel better. I am not comfortable joining in the hero worship and ridiculous statements, and no doubt i will continue to be accused of being negative - as opposed to honest - for it. Hey ho. You are quite clearly, well to most people at least over negative. It would be a stupid thing to do now but I am confident if we had a poll on the forum asking people to choose one word to describe you "negative" would piss all over "realistic" in the voting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 You just seem to find a negative in everything, I bet if you just found out you won the lotto your first thought would be "oh fuck my relatives will probably want some" or something along those lines. If we appointed Wenger instead of Allardyce and he found out Drogba has a secret release clause that allowed him to leave for £3m you would moan that Wenger is french so would probably treat us like the others have and Drogba isnt good enough for us because he dives. I honestly don't think you could be positive and remain positive for more than 3 posts. Ooh, there's a challenge i'm obligated to rise to. Not, clearly. You are again making judgements of someone you know fuck all about, but you just continue if it makes you feel better. I am not comfortable joining in the hero worship and ridiculous statements, and no doubt i will continue to be accused of being negative - as opposed to honest - for it. Hey ho. You are quite clearly, well to most people at least over negative. It would be a stupid thing to do now but I am confident if we had a poll on the forum asking people to choose one word to describe you "negative" would piss all over "realistic" in the voting. I like how i get a public kicking for putting forward my honest opinion. Because it doesn't match yours, i get character-assassinated, or at least the nearest thing you can get on here. This is nearly as good as when that idiot asked to know where i lived, to come and "sort me out". Happy days....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 I agree with him on this thread, like. People are talking like Allardyce can transmute any old lump of base metal into pure, shining gold. People are probably going a bit OTT but Allardyce has proved time and time again that he can get the best out of players who are coming to the end of their careers or who have been struggling for one reason or another. Given how the majority of our team have underperformed its no suprise this subject will be brought up again and again. He also chooses the players he thinks he can get more out of carefully, even to the point of psychological profiling. He's not a magician who can wave his magic clipboard at any old donkey and transform him into a footballer. But he is someone who can get the best out of someone players so its perfectly acceptable that some people might have a little hope that he may get some of our vast number of underperforming players playing a lot better. As Melan said, NM, as usual is being over negative. And again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Don't worry I wont be trying to find out where you are to "come sort you out" I just think you are often too negative but if its what you honestly believe then fair enough you negative bastard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Don't worry I wont be trying to find out where you are to "come sort you out" I just think you are often too negative but if its what you honestly believe then fair enough you negative bastard As long as everyone has the right to post about how wrong i am, how overly negative i am, and how i would still be negative if [insert pathetic, unrealistic, not-at-all-point-proving load of shite] happens, amd i have no right to reply other than to be called all that again, then everyone is happy, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Sounds good to me, deal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Sam Allardyce - the best manager in the world, ever, and the answer to every single probelm that faces NUFC and its variety of players - even the s**** ones will be Premiership class within weeks. Your signature suggests a lot of bitterness towards our former managers. Are you Sam-bashing because you can't bear to be disappointed by yet another Big Hope? Do you even know what hope means? You don't feel any bitterness towards Souness or Roeder? Good for you, then. Sam Allardyce - the best manager in the world, ever, and the answer to every single probelm that faces NUFC and its variety of players - even the s**** ones will be Premiership class within weeks. Your signature suggests a lot of bitterness towards our former managers. Are you Sam-bashing because you can't bear to be disappointed by yet another Big Hope? Do you even know what hope means? You don't feel any bitterness towards Souness or Roeder? Good for you, then. Not really. I thought they were poor appointments in the first place. I am very happy with the appointment of Allardyce though and I will happily raise his flag right now. Who's your answer? Or are you good for carping only? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Sam Allardyce - the best manager in the world, ever, and the answer to every single probelm that faces NUFC and its variety of players - even the s**** ones will be Premiership class within weeks. Your signature suggests a lot of bitterness towards our former managers. Are you Sam-bashing because you can't bear to be disappointed by yet another Big Hope? Do you even know what hope means? You don't feel any bitterness towards Souness or Roeder? Good for you, then. Sam Allardyce - the best manager in the world, ever, and the answer to every single probelm that faces NUFC and its variety of players - even the s**** ones will be Premiership class within weeks. Your signature suggests a lot of bitterness towards our former managers. Are you Sam-bashing because you can't bear to be disappointed by yet another Big Hope? Do you even know what hope means? You don't feel any bitterness towards Souness or Roeder? Good for you, then. Not really. I thought they were poor appointments in the first place. I am very happy with the appointment of Allardyce though and I will happily raise his flag right now. Who's your answer? Or are you good for carping only? So let me get this right - i can only be reserved about a new manager if I have another name that i'd rather have?? I can't just have some reservations, no? I can't just try to add a little realism into the mass frenzy? Since when do fans have to be able to name an alternative just to be able to voice an opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 So let me get this right - i can only be reserved about a new manager if I have another name that i'd rather have?? I can't just have some reservations, no? I can't just try to add a little realism into the mass frenzy? Since when do fans have to be able to name an alternative just to be able to voice an opinion? What opinion? Opinion by definition is weighing up the pro's and con's. Since when did bitching and whining count as 'opinion'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 So let me get this right - i can only be reserved about a new manager if I have another name that i'd rather have?? I can't just have some reservations, no? I can't just try to add a little realism into the mass frenzy? Since when do fans have to be able to name an alternative just to be able to voice an opinion? What opinion? Opinion by definition is weighing up the pro's and con's. Since when did bitching and whining count as 'opinion'? bored now. you get questionned on your ridiculous policy, and you change your tack. what a shock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 You just seem to find a negative in everything, I bet if you just found out you won the lotto your first thought would be "oh fuck my relatives will probably want some" or something along those lines. If we appointed Wenger instead of Allardyce and he found out Drogba has a secret release clause that allowed him to leave for £3m you would moan that Wenger is french so would probably treat us like the others have and Drogba isnt good enough for us because he dives. I honestly don't think you could be positive and remain positive for more than 3 posts. Ooh, there's a challenge i'm obligated to rise to. Not, clearly. You are again making judgements of someone you know fuck all about, but you just continue if it makes you feel better. I am not comfortable joining in the hero worship and ridiculous statements, and no doubt i will continue to be accused of being negative - as opposed to honest - for it. Hey ho. What are you talking about man? I never said Allardyce will transform Carr into the new Danny Alves and Babayaro into the new Maldini. I only said that Allardyce's training and tactical methods will help the players to get bettter=better fitness-better training and tactical methods-better form-better performance-better team display. I can guarantee you that players like Carr and Babayaro will look better under Allardyce then they were under Roeder or Souness.That is my whole point Dont you agree with that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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