Guest alex Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Bergkamp was definitely a bit of a coward and a dirty cunt imo. Absolutely fantastic player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I dont think he was anymore of a cock than the next player, i think he looked a bit miserable on the pitch sometimes like but he was aparently the joker of the group at training and a really nice funny guy! Nope, he was a cock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I dont think he was anymore of a cock than the next player, i think he looked a bit miserable on the pitch sometimes like but he was aparently the joker of the group at training and a really nice funny guy! Sounds a bit like Shearer was supposed to be in private. While being very focused/driven on the pitch, and coming across as the model pro and very boring in interviews etc, he was apparently one of the main jokers in the squad (at the time), according to Robert Lee (in his autobiography). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Sam will ask Arsenal soon whether there is any interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I really hope we are interested, aslong as we keep Carlos Vela next season (if his work permit is granted) so he can play during cup of nations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Bergkamp was definitely a bit of a coward and a dirty cunt imo. Absolutely fantastic player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'll never forgive him for the way he disrespected a true great like O'Brien in fron of a sell out crowd. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'll be surprised if Martins goes to the African Cup of Nations to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'll be surprised if Martins goes to the African Cup of Nations to be honest. Oooo explain please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I'll be surprised if Martins goes to the African Cup of Nations to be honest. Oooo explain please? I concur. He's obviously desperate to get out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheriff John Bunnell (Ret Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Most Arsenal fans would prob rather have Owen i reckon... 4M cheaper as well... I'd rather they took him too... Keep Oba! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toon tone rudeboy Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 From what I read on the Arsenal forum, opinion is more in favor of Martins than Owen tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sheriff John Bunnell (Ret Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 July shld be another interesting month anyways.... If we were to get rid of Martins, anyone reckon we could get Anelka? How much would he cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think 9 million is being thrown about for Anelka isnt it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anders Rye Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Owen is English and fact; Arsenal don't want any English players near their team, so Martins it is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think 9 million is being thrown about for Anelka isnt it? Is that his release clause, like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samtoonarmy Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I wouldn't be too disapointed if Martins left because he misses some easy opportunities occasionally and when he is on the ball he doesn't look that comfortable. Especially for £13m I would let him go and bring in a high-profile striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Can I guess this has been 14 pages of heated debate then? If he does go to Arsenal it does beg the question, if he isnt good enough for us, cant control the ball and has shocking movement and all of this will never improve......why does Wenger (a manager I would guess 99% of this forum would have loved to have here before Allardyce was appointed) want him? Maybe he isn't as bad as some like to make out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Can I guess this has been 14 pages of heated debate then? If he does go to Arsenal it does beg the question, if he isnt good enough for us, cant control the ball and has shocking movement and all of this will never improve......why does Wenger (a manager I would guess 99% of this forum would have loved to have here before Allardyce was appointed) want him? Maybe he isn't as bad as some like to make out... Nah, we established that doesn't count because he bought Jeffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Can I guess this has been 14 pages of heated debate then? If he does go to Arsenal it does beg the question, if he isnt good enough for us, cant control the ball and has shocking movement and all of this will never improve......why does Wenger (a manager I would guess 99% of this forum would have loved to have here before Allardyce was appointed) want him? Maybe he isn't as bad as some like to make out... Nah, we established that doesn't count because he bought Jeffers. dont forget Dave the fact that the ones that do think he can come good think it can only be with wenger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 It's funny to see some people picking out individual 'easy' goals he scored. We could do this with any striker in the world. Seems Martins is getting criticised for scoring screamers and then getting criticised for scoring tap-ins! He could and should have scored more last season, and we witnessed first hand the weaknesses in his game. But he also possesses attributes unrivalled by any other player in this league (who else has that pace, strength and shooting ability?). Wenger has obviously identified this and feels that with the right coaching and the right service there's plenty more to come from Obafemi Martins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Can I guess this has been 14 pages of heated debate then? If he does go to Arsenal it does beg the question, if he isnt good enough for us, cant control the ball and has shocking movement and all of this will never improve......why does Wenger (a manager I would guess 99% of this forum would have loved to have here before Allardyce was appointed) want him? Maybe he isn't as bad as some like to make out... Nah, we established that doesn't count because he bought Jeffers. Oh right, must be the case then. I agree very much with ohmelads aswell, remember people moaning because he doesn't score enough tap ins. Yes he did miss some that he should have scored BUT he scored 17 goals, not a bad tally for someone of his age in a new league. On one hand people excuse certain strikers for poor parts of the games because "its their job to score goals" but then they rip into Oba. Doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 It's funny to see some people picking out individual 'easy' goals he scored. We could do this with any striker in the world. Seems Martins is getting criticised for scoring screamers and then getting criticised for scoring tap-ins! He could and should have scored more last season, and we witnessed first hand the weaknesses in his game. But he also possesses attributes unrivalled by any other player in this league (who else has that pace, strength and shooting ability?). Wenger has obviously identified this and feels that with the right coaching and the right service there's plenty more to come from Obafemi Martins. Exactly we aint exactly strapped for cash and needing to get him away in case he flops, he is young, can only get better working in a better team with the right coaching you can see alot of his weaker elements going and the things that make him special becomming more apparant. Give the lad a chance one season wonder he isn't and worse comes to the worse he flops and we sell him off, being written off because he didnt blast in 30 goals or score hatricks like no tommorow does not mean he is a bad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I want him to stay, but if he was to leave i would much rather like to see him go to Italy and Juventus. Would do my head in if he went to Arsenal and fulfilled his potential and developed into one of the best strikers under the guidance of Wenger. But i also believe that Wenger will end up at Real.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 YOU ARE ALL MAD!!! I would be devastated if Martins left!!! I think buying him was the only good thing Roeder did for us. Think about it, we would have been relegated without his goals, and he is only 22 and can improve so much!!! Roeder was a crap manager, and Martins had noone decent to actually play up front with, and he had no service from our midfield- yet he still scored 17 goals in his first season in the premiership!!!! yes he finished badly, but think about the game against spurs at white hart lane, where he won it for us (ok fine with given). He scores amazing goals, is really fast, is entertaining to watch when he is doing well, and can jump to about twice his height!! AND HE DOES BACKFLIPS!!! you are all to quick to criticise him for the end of the season, but it wasnt just him doing badly, everyone was!!! Think about when we were doing well!! surely we will see more of the best next season? AND MAINLY, HE WILL IMPROVE!!! DECENT MANAGER, DECENT PARTNERSHIP, DECENT MIDFIELD, EXPERIENCE, MORE CONFIDENCE!!!! considering he scored 17 goals without scoring hardly any at the start or end, we have a bloody good striker!! Martins is still improving, Owen has past his best! I would rather sell Owen for £9million than Martins for £20 million!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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