Colocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Maradona? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Maradona? As crazy as it is and he is why the fk not its the way this club works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 We lose him Ashley and Llambias die FYP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 All bets are off regarding all of our best players tbh. Goes with the territory. TBF (although Ashley doesn't deserve it), the one thing Ashley hasn't shown is that he wants to sell all our players. Obviously I realise that could all change in an instant, and that no logic governs Ashley's actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 It's Ashleys blueprint isn't it? Build players up and sell them for a tidy sum. Enrique could easily rake in £8million. Any buyer raises their hand come the summer and Ashley will cash in. The same applies to any player of quality we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 It's Ashleys blueprint isn't it? Build players up and sell them for a tidy sum. Enrique could easily rake in £8million. Any buyer raises their hand come the summer and Ashley will cash in. The same applies to any player of quality we have. Well he's never demonstrated that blueprint yet, has he? I know he's a mong and a cunt of the highest order, I just don't think selling players is one of his faults. I think his blueprint is more to sign underperforming or unsettled players on the cheap. I don't think it goes so far as to deliberately plan to sell them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Fuck sake, man. This Ashley's a seller is one of my biggest pet hates, even though I fucking hate the man Build players up and sell them for a tidy sum? How often has this been done with that sole aim? We've sold players because they wanted to leave for better clubs and money and because we got relegated so they didn't want to hang around. But I'm not thinking of the exodus being Ashley's choice. I'm just thinking he's going to get a clueless manager in who, like Kinnear, doesn't 'rate' Enrique or something ridiculous. Breaks the team up. Or the players are so angry that they force a move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 He sells those that want away as does every club, the worry is our players will want away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Fuck sake, man. This Ashley's a seller is one of my biggest pet hates, even though I fucking hate the man Build players up and sell them for a tidy sum? How often has this been done with that sole aim? We've sold players because they wanted to leave for better clubs and money and because we got relegated so they didn't want to hang around. That's because we've had very few promising players to sell. Obviously someone like Bassong is an exception ... Let's see your opinion this time next year, let's see if the likes of Enrique, Carroll, Tiote and Coloccini are still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snabelkabel Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 All bets are off regarding all of our best players tbh. All bets off regarding everything at the club. Genuinely have no clue where this is going. Who knows where we'll be and who'll be here come September 1st 2011. I'm scared. 2012 is rapidly approching, maybe this is what all the doomsdaymongers is talking about. The end of newcastle as we know it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Fuck sake, man. This Ashley's a seller is one of my biggest pet hates, even though I fucking hate the man Build players up and sell them for a tidy sum? How often has this been done with that sole aim? We've sold players because they wanted to leave for better clubs and money and because we got relegated so they didn't want to hang around. That's because we've had very few promising players to sell. Obviously someone like Bassong is an exception ... Let's see your opinion this time next year, let's see if the likes of Enrique, Carroll, Tiote and Coloccini are still here. You might be right, all I'm saying that there's no actual evidence (apart from Ashley's general shitness) to believe that will happen. As Skirge says, the reason for most departures will likely be that players want out of this farce of a club after Alan Pardew takes us back down to the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 One player in 3 years is your example? Could you have seen him staying after relegation, anyway? So you're basing this 'Ashley is a seller' on the assumption we're going to lose all of our best players at the end of the season? And like I say, I can see it happening, but it won't because Ashley's purposely cashing in. It's because he's an inept cunt that the players themselves don't want to work for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 One player in 3 years is your example? Could you have seen him staying after relegation, anyway? So you're basing this 'Ashley is a seller' on the assumption we're going to lose all of our best players at the end of the season? And like I say, I can see it happening, but it won't because Ashley's purposely cashing in. It's because he's an inept cunt that the players themselves don't want to work for. Who else have we had to sell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 One player in 3 years is your example? Could you have seen him staying after relegation, anyway? So you're basing this 'Ashley is a seller' on the assumption we're going to lose all of our best players at the end of the season? And like I say, I can see it happening, but it won't because Ashley's purposely cashing in. It's because he's an inept cunt that the players themselves don't want to work for. Who else have we had to sell? Eh? Is your argument that we shouldn't be selling players we 'have to sell'? Seems a slightly different point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No my point is that we have had no saleable assets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I just love this idea that we're a selling club as we've sold one player who wanted to leave after relegation. Can't believe I'm even bothering entering into a debate about it. I'm out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No my point is that we have had no saleable assets. Well OK, that's debatable, but it's still back into the realms of speculation about the future based on no real evidence. We'll see what Ashley does, hopefully we'll appoint a decent manager, stay up and it won't come to selling players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I just love this idea that we're a selling club as we've sold one player who wanted to leave after relegation. Can't believe I'm even bothering entering into a debate about it. I'm out! We can only sell players we can find buyers for, and no one will buy players who can demand ludicrous wages, like Alan Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I just love this idea that we're a selling club as we've sold one player who wanted to leave after relegation. Can't believe I'm even bothering entering into a debate about it. I'm out! We can only sell players we can find buyers for, and no one will buy players who can demand ludicrous wages, like Alan Smith. Even so, the fact we haven't sold players can harldy be used as evidence we're a selling club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ashley has sold players like Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Duff, Beye and Martins, replacing them with the likes of Routledge, no one, no one, no one, Simpson and Best. Looks like a selling club to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ashley has sold players like Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Duff, Beye and Martins, replacing them with the likes of Routledge, no one, no one, no one, Simpson and Best. Looks like a selling club to me. They all wanted to leave what was he to do ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 £12 million for Milner is an exception to the rule. The only reason no one's happy about that is it wasn't reinvested. Given, N'Zogbia, Beye, all wanted to leave and forced our hand. Martins and Duff, were you really expecting them to stay and fight for us in the Championship? There's a difference between selling players out of necessity and selling players just because their stock is high and you can make a quick buck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Ashley has sold players like Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Duff, Beye and Martins, replacing them with the likes of Routledge, no one, no one, no one, Simpson and Best. Looks like a selling club to me. We sold those players to get save money on the wage bill when we got relegated. What's the point of buying high profile names to replace them when we were in the Championship and no idea if we were going to get promoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 No my point is that we have had no saleable assets. Well OK, that's debatable, but it's still back into the realms of speculation about the future based on no real evidence. We'll see what Ashley does, hopefully we'll appoint a decent manager, stay up and it won't come to selling players! Which players have we got that Ashley has turned down the opportunity to cash in on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Which players has Ashley taken the opportunity to cash in on, soley because their stock is high and the player didn't force his hand to move? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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