Baggio Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. I'd guess the majority was scored in cup games against average opposition. Poor excuse tbh. Excuse or fact? How many were scored in the league and how many against average teams in cup competitions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. Think how many they could get if they had a better midfield behind then than Zokora, Jenas and Steed. All are good midfielders tbh. Our problem is none of them can actually defend that well. Steed's good, and Zokora looks OK from what I've seen of him. My point about a lack of service was fairly obviously mainly about service coming from a wide area I would have thought, but never mind. Shearer scored goals throughout his Newcastle career (until the very end) and we had a wank midfield a lot of the time. Spurs's midfield doesn't do their strikeforce justice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Apart from 5/6 players spurs are such an average team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. Think how many they could get if they had a better midfield behind then than Zokora, Jenas and Steed. All are good midfielders tbh. Our problem is none of them can actually defend that well. What does Zokora do then because he doesn't seem to attack that well either. He's a box to box midfielder that attacks very well. He's shooting is beyond a joke though but to say he cant attack well is a joke tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. Think how many they could get if they had a better midfield behind then than Zokora, Jenas and Steed. All are good midfielders tbh. Our problem is none of them can actually defend that well. What does Zokora do then because he doesn't seem to attack that well either. He's a box to box midfielder that attacks very well. He's shooting is beyond a joke though but to say he cant attack well is a joke tbh. How many goals and assists did he get last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. I'd guess the majority was scored in cup games against average opposition. Poor excuse tbh. Excuse or fact? How many were scored in the league and how many against average teams in cup competitions? I think the 3 strikers got about 32 league goals last season whick is a good acheivement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. Think how many they could get if they had a better midfield behind then than Zokora, Jenas and Steed. All are good midfielders tbh. Our problem is none of them can actually defend that well. What does Zokora do then because he doesn't seem to attack that well either. He's a box to box midfielder that attacks very well. He's shooting is beyond a joke though but to say he cant attack well is a joke tbh. How many goals and assists did he get last season? no goals and dont know how many assist. As i said, his shooting is beyond abysmal but his bursting runs are a real asset to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triglett Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Also, should add that I think Spurs have missed the boat on Champions' League football with all the "new money" in the league, a lot of teams are catching up to them quickly, while the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool are pulling away. It's not just us who are being galvanised at the minute. They had to do it in the last two seasons under their current stewardship if you ask me, and they just fell short. If Levy finds them a billionaire and/or if they get the ground extended, I'll start worrying again. I know both might be in the pipeline. Joe Lewis is a billionaire. Clubs below us have spent big this season, but so have we - more than Man City IIRC. People keep on saying we 'blew our budget' on Bent, but I don't think that's the case. Yesterday news came through that we've submitted a planning application for 'the development of a world class Academy and First Team Training Centre', which I'd guess will cost a few bob. I'm sure the funds are available to strengthen further, it just seems as if the management have failed to notice that gaping hole on the left of midfield and problems in defence. Even so, it makes our strategy of investing so heavily in youth all the more commendable/sensible. Boateng, who was probably one of the best players in the Germany, and certainly the best prospect there, could prove a snip at £5m - he's ready to make an impact in the first team now, but if he develops and fulfills even half his potential in 2 or 3 years time, along with Taarabt, Bale, Kaboul and Lennon, we could even be challenging for the top spots. Even Bent is only 23, the average age of our squad. We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 All that firepower and no service. Wouldnt really say that tbh. The strikers had no problem netting 68 goals between them last season with the same midfield providing them. Think how many they could get if they had a better midfield behind then than Zokora, Jenas and Steed. All are good midfielders tbh. Our problem is none of them can actually defend that well. What does Zokora do then because he doesn't seem to attack that well either. He's a box to box midfielder that attacks very well. He's shooting is beyond a joke though but to say he cant attack well is a joke tbh. How many goals and assists did he get last season? no goals and dont know how many assist. As i said, his shooting is beyond abysmal but his bursting runs are a real asset to the team. I always thought Zokora was a DMF, He is terrible going forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Apart from 5/6 players spurs are such an average team Robbo chimbonda Dawson King Bale Kaboul Lee Zokora Jenas steed lennon Berbatov Keane Bent Defoe All above average players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Also, should add that I think Spurs have missed the boat on Champions' League football with all the "new money" in the league, a lot of teams are catching up to them quickly, while the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool are pulling away. It's not just us who are being galvanised at the minute. They had to do it in the last two seasons under their current stewardship if you ask me, and they just fell short. If Levy finds them a billionaire and/or if they get the ground extended, I'll start worrying again. I know both might be in the pipeline. Joe Lewis is a billionaire. Clubs below us have spent big this season, but so have we - more than Man City IIRC. People keep on saying we 'blew our budget' on Bent, but I don't think that's the case. Yesterday news came through that we've submitted a planning application for 'the development of a world class Academy and First Team Training Centre', which I'd guess will cost a few bob. I'm sure the funds are available to strengthen further, it just seems as if the management have failed to notice that gaping hole on the left of midfield and problems in defence. Even so, it makes our strategy of investing so heavily in youth all the more commendable/sensible. Boateng, who was probably one of the best players in the Germany, and certainly the best prospect there, could prove a snip at £5m - he's ready to make an impact in the first team now, but if he develops and fulfills even half his potential in 2 or 3 years time, along with Taarabt, Bale, Kaboul and Lennon, we could even be challenging for the top spots. Even Bent is only 23, the average age of our squad. We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. I can remember people saying the same about Viana when we bought him and look how that turned out. Buying Bent was a waste because you didnt really need him, Scoring goals wasn't really spurs weak point last season it was the defense and weak midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Apart from 5/6 players spurs are such an average team Robbo chimbonda Dawson King Bale Kaboul Lee Zokora Jenas steed lennon Berbatov Keane Bent Defoe All above average players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Apart from 5/6 players spurs are such an average team Robbo chimbonda Dawson King Bale Kaboul Lee Zokora Jenas steed lennon Berbatov Keane Bent Defoe All above average players mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Also, should add that I think Spurs have missed the boat on Champions' League football with all the "new money" in the league, a lot of teams are catching up to them quickly, while the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool are pulling away. It's not just us who are being galvanised at the minute. They had to do it in the last two seasons under their current stewardship if you ask me, and they just fell short. If Levy finds them a billionaire and/or if they get the ground extended, I'll start worrying again. I know both might be in the pipeline. Joe Lewis is a billionaire. Clubs below us have spent big this season, but so have we - more than Man City IIRC. People keep on saying we 'blew our budget' on Bent, but I don't think that's the case. Yesterday news came through that we've submitted a planning application for 'the development of a world class Academy and First Team Training Centre', which I'd guess will cost a few bob. I'm sure the funds are available to strengthen further, it just seems as if the management have failed to notice that gaping hole on the left of midfield and problems in defence. Even so, it makes our strategy of investing so heavily in youth all the more commendable/sensible. Boateng, who was probably one of the best players in the Germany, and certainly the best prospect there, could prove a snip at £5m - he's ready to make an impact in the first team now, but if he develops and fulfills even half his potential in 2 or 3 years time, along with Taarabt, Bale, Kaboul and Lennon, we could even be challenging for the top spots. Even Bent is only 23, the average age of our squad. We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. Viduka and Cacapa I'll give you as being 1-2 season signings Enrique, Barton, Smith, Rozhenal all got at least 6 seasons in them. Geremi I'd say 4 or 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Just for my curiosity, how many good players do Newcastle have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Apart from 5/6 players spurs are such an average team Robbo chimbonda Dawson King Bale Kaboul Lee Zokora Jenas steed lennon Berbatov Keane Bent Defoe All above average players mackems.gif mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Also, should add that I think Spurs have missed the boat on Champions' League football with all the "new money" in the league, a lot of teams are catching up to them quickly, while the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool are pulling away. It's not just us who are being galvanised at the minute. They had to do it in the last two seasons under their current stewardship if you ask me, and they just fell short. If Levy finds them a billionaire and/or if they get the ground extended, I'll start worrying again. I know both might be in the pipeline. Good point they will regret just missing the CL recently. I have said it all summer but Jol will get found out this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. Or N'Zogbia, Taylor, Milner, Enrique? I see what you tried to do there, but people aren't going to fall for that on a Newcastle board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Just for my curiosity, how many good players do Newcastle have? Given Cacapa Geremi Martins Dukes Owen Duff Emre All top drawer proven class Rozhenal Enrique Taylor Zogbia Milner Internationals at decent-good nationsa u21 or full level Carroll Krul Tipped to be great Thats being conservative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. Or N'Zogbia, Taylor, Milner, Enrique? I see what you tried to do there, but people aren't going to fall for that on a Newcastle board. Dont forget the premiership's top scorer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We have a great youth squad, in 5 years this could be the bulk of our side: Krul ......... .......... Taylor Enrique Milner .......... .......... N'Zogbia Carroll Martins Woooooo, also Barton will be a wise old sage then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Incredible. How bad must Spurs--Spurs fans--the media be, to get people on this board to pull for the scouse makems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. Or N'Zogbia, Taylor, Milner, Enrique? I see what you tried to do there, but people aren't going to fall for that on a Newcastle board. Dont forget the premiership's top scorer I wasn't going to include him, but seeing as he's happy to use Bent as an example, then yes Martins as well. His point doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all, I don't know why he thought noone would pick up on that on a Newcastle board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Also, should add that I think Spurs have missed the boat on Champions' League football with all the "new money" in the league, a lot of teams are catching up to them quickly, while the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Liverpool are pulling away. It's not just us who are being galvanised at the minute. They had to do it in the last two seasons under their current stewardship if you ask me, and they just fell short. If Levy finds them a billionaire and/or if they get the ground extended, I'll start worrying again. I know both might be in the pipeline. Joe Lewis is a billionaire. Clubs below us have spent big this season, but so have we - more than Man City IIRC. People keep on saying we 'blew our budget' on Bent, but I don't think that's the case. Yesterday news came through that we've submitted a planning application for 'the development of a world class Academy and First Team Training Centre', which I'd guess will cost a few bob. I'm sure the funds are available to strengthen further, it just seems as if the management have failed to notice that gaping hole on the left of midfield and problems in defence. Even so, it makes our strategy of investing so heavily in youth all the more commendable/sensible. Boateng, who was probably one of the best players in the Germany, and certainly the best prospect there, could prove a snip at £5m - he's ready to make an impact in the first team now, but if he develops and fulfills even half his potential in 2 or 3 years time, along with Taarabt, Bale, Kaboul and Lennon, we could even be challenging for the top spots. Even Bent is only 23, the average age of our squad. We certainly look in a much healthier position than NUFC in the long term - most of your new signings should only last a season or two max, and your future lies in the hands of Edgar, Huntington and Ramage. It's a pity you don't play with a top notch creative mf anymore (in the Spurs tradition) like Hoddle or Ardiles etc. With the forwards you have (a very good bunch) you could really hurt teams. The left side is a mystery to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Just for my curiosity, how many good players do Newcastle have? Given Cacapa Geremi Martins Dukes Owen Duff Emre All top drawer proven class Wait a minute, i get ridiculed for listing some "ABOVE AVERAGE" spurs players yet you have the audacity to call the players in bold "Top Drawer" mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif Rozhenal Enrique Taylor Zogbia Milner Internationals at decent-good nationsa u21 or full level Carroll Krul Tipped to be great Not even tipped to be good or tipped to make it as a premiership player. Instead you choose to use the word great mackems.gif mackems.gif Thats being conservative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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