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Carrick was actually at the club, he left after Keegan scraped the reserves. Think your wrong think he went from Wallsend to West Ham wasnt at Newcastle

Leon Knight going a tad mental on twitter accusing R+D of all sorts

http://planningapplications.newcastle.gov.uk/online-applications/files/44144EB55BC0A7C313A8B241C19A6734/pdf/document-210795.pdf More details here but seems they are happy as long as the lettering is fine

Play him through the middle though not out wide might even help jonas out

What does that say ?

So he says racism is complicated. He went to a Newcastle game as a fan and got a fantastic impression. Put it in the Guardian converter and that means Newcastle fans are all racist bastards.

New stories but same as previous if that makes any sense.

It's just like a loan really though. Exactly, you'd want your players to play as much as possible. It's a good move from us if true though Depends though, if it was loan to gain experience and then come back, yes. But it's not it's a loan to see if we like the guy and if we do we buy him for an agreed fee if not we don't. The only real difference is that after 25 games of him playing, if we like him or not we're stuck with him.

Where exactly is this rumoured btw?

It's just like a loan really though.

If you're talking about transfer funding, not a chance. The two businesses are likely ring-fenced from one another, with several liability, and any payments would be at market value (or an undervalue). Chances are that sponsors are not knocking down the door to advertise there, otherwise it would be a valuable source of revenue, given how many of our games that Sky is likely to show. I'd wager that they'll stay until a better offer comes along. You think ? It's outside the ground isn't it ? Not much in terms of your advert appearing on sky so really appeal wouldn't be that high I wouldn't think.

Don't mention the war!!

I think many of us on here agree Barton and Guthrie are our most creative CM. If he is going to play a 3 in the middle im sure most on here would agree they would rather see They are also two of the worst at giving the ball away. Listing any of those combination of midfielders shows how crap our centre midfield is.

That's not the point though is it. They are wanting us (allegedly) to commit to buying him at the end of season if we stay in the Premiership. So if he has a crap season, or is an arsehole, we would still have to fork out £5m or whatever to buy him if that clause exists. That doesn't sound like good business sense to me. Right...then let's move onto the next rising young superstar who we can pick up on a loan if this one falls through. No doubt Hughton has a queue of clubs lining up to loan us their hot prospects. What is everyone panicking for? Hindu Times makes a very good point in the NUFC Transfer Rumours thread, he said we wouldn't even have known about this deal if it wasn't for OM's Chairman coming out and telling the press everything. So for all we know the club are working behind the scenes on signing some players that we don't have a club about.

Depends if that money meant we couldn't buy any other player for the team due to high wages plus the fee.

It won't happen, I've no doubts. Wish it would though. I wouldn't say it's a possible exception of our right back either I'd say its a cert. Our right back position is awful even with Simpson back. I worry about it with Downing bombing down it on Sunday.

I know. People just haven't got this through their heads and we've been discussing it for 5 years now. The midfield has to have a reasonable level of posession and ability to support the attack, end of story. Also came from great management. A great manager always gets more out of the players. We never had fantastic defenders under KK, we just kept the ball down the other end of the field.

If he does then fair enough I'd be happier with that.

I know and I agree and with a manager who would deploy those tactics great, but I can't see it from past experience.

Which Hughton won't play away from home, he'll play 4-5-1 with a strong tackling midfield. I'm not saying he's right I'm saying that's what'll happen he's more or less said it already and did it last year. Conspicuous by their absense at Old Trafford. Ben Arfa could easily have replaced Nolan in that match for all he gave us. Please don't begin to think I'm defending any of them, if we had my way I'd have got shot of Smith, Nolan, Guthrie and Barton in a heartbeat. All am saying is this is how or manager sees the team and plays them. Away from home he will play the likes of Smith and Nolan or Barton and Nolan nearly every game. At home Guthrie will get more of a chance. If Ben Arfa came then he would be taking over from Guthrie at home. Which yes is an improvement but I just see other positions more of a problem. Scares the crap out of me how piss poor our right back is, any manager with any sense will attack that every game.

I've seen him play full games and think he's the type of player our team is crying out for. To be honest a midfielder, attacking or not, wouldn't be top of my list of players we need replacements for. That worries me more than whether Ben Arfa signs or not. He's a player who would no doubt play well at home and poor away so in a sense a luxury player which is possibly the last thing we need right now. A good central midfielder, attacking or not is number one for me on the list, Nolan will offer nothing against the top 15 teams in the league, Smith is terrible, Guthrire and Barton blow hot and cold, mostly cold and are both injury prone. All in all a terrible central midfield. A close second would be RB/Striker equally. Nolan will play most if not all games after being handed the captaincy, of this I have no doubt. I'm not saying we don't need a new midfield, we do, but we also need someone who can put the ball into the net more often and a defence that can run after someone.

Which Hughton won't play away from home, he'll play 4-5-1 with a strong tackling midfield. I'm not saying he's right I'm saying that's what'll happen he's more or less said it already and did it last year. We're going to be relying on our home games for the points to keep us up anyway! So would it not be helpful if we had a defence who could then stop teams scoring ?

Which Hughton won't play away from home, he'll play 4-5-1 with a strong tackling midfield. I'm not saying he's right I'm saying that's what'll happen he's more or less said it already and did it last year.

It's true though there has been 257 pages of arguing about a player probably 80% of the people on this thread have never seen play even once. It's crazy lol He's a young player rated at a price we could ordinarily never dream of paying that plays in a position we seriously need to fill, and through good fortune he's unsettled, cheaper, available on some sort of loan on the right terms and seems keen to come and play for us. Considering that on past form the alternative will be a final day signing of an underwhelming and over-priced player from the lower leagues who favours a position we've already got covered, I don't think it's surprising that people thing we should grab the opportunity instead of f***ing around. If the club has limited funds to spend of players which it does, and this would remove 5-8m worth of funds from the club plus add another top earner is that what the club needs right now ? And that doesn't mean to say I want the other option to be the crap final day purchases we've had of past. If I thought the club would go out and buy players of a good quality for the other more important positions then fair enough but I know after being out this "big fee" that they won't.