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Hate? Who are you talking about there like?

Aye, just as dumb as the threads that spring up whenever Fred opens his mouth, eh. Yes, I agree. Aye.

Aye, just as dumb as the threads that spring up whenever Fred opens his mouth, eh.

I think his problem was more to do with Souness, tbh. He'd spent his career at a club with a decent manager, albeit a hard manager Fergie is probably a fair bloke. Butt then signed for Bobby Robson, another top man-manager. I've no doubt at all he realised very early that Souness was a bullying shit. That's when the problems all began.

To me, there are various combinatiions in the centre of a 4-4-2 before Parker should get a kick. Butt/Emre Butt/Dyer Emre/Dyer What does Parker do, if playing in combination with any of those 3 players, that is better than those other players in their roles? Does he play the holding role with the discipline and "reading of the game" ability of Butt? Does he create and pass as well as Emre? Is he an attacking threat on a par, or better than Dyer? Imo, if he's in the centre with Emre he gets in Emre's way and stops him playing. We've seen plenty of that and I don't understand why people still believe that combintion can work. If he's in with Butt he'll be expected to create, but he has almost zero creative ability. If he's in the centre with Dyer he may do better, but it's a real problem that he lacks the ability to move the ball on quickly. This will become even more apparent if/when Owen is up front with Martins, and with Dyer also in the team making forward runs, even if Dyer is on the right. With Zog using pace on the left we'd have a lot of pacey players, Parker has got to learn to shift the ball on much faster than he does. He should watch Butt, because his passing is far more slick and creative. Parker is not an easy player to fit into a team imo, and he's not good enough to build a team around. I'd sell him, tbh. We don't need him and the money could be better allocated elsewhere in the side.

Pity you don't post that when people call for Fred's head because he's spouted some shite. The bit I'm worried about is the idea he may ever manage Newcastle. It's worrying that he doesn't have what it takes within his character to give some deserved credit to players he's previously fallen out with. That's all that's being said here really. Fundamentally, I don't give a shite what it is he actually does say.

Me and my 'yes' or 'no' questions. Aye, hypocrite, tbh.

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I've never seen the problem with someone talking a player up.....applies in other areas too. Well done, Glenn.

Quite a range.

I'm more worried that having made the mistake of making Parker the team captain, Roeder feels as though he has to select Parker week in week out when he's fully fit. Can't see how you can blame any lack of tactical knowledge by the manager for Parker's low level of ability. I think *Doncheesecake hit the nail on the head a couple of posts up, tbh. He doesn't have the ability to play the role Butt is playing. *If you ask Parker to do this for some reason he takes it upon himself to try and close down and tackle every player with the ball that enters our half.

See, I just don't agree he's regularly our best player, he just grafts and people are impressed by that. At the end of the day, he does very little and he does unbalance the team, he doesn't gel very well with other players, as you point out.

Why do we play better without him then? Do we? We've had a good run without him recently. All which started with the arsenal game in which he played well. He was easily our best at the start of the season, and very good all of last season. Michael Owen hasnt been playing in our recent run either... Yes, we do. And we did it last season too when Parker was out of the team.

Why do we play better without him then?

bluelaugh.gif Fantastic thread, this one. Some cracking comments, like Fred's head must roll etc. bluebiggrin.gif

That's more like it.

Funnily enough I was just thinking that!

On the contrary, I hardly agree with you on any football issues especially those related to the merit of Freddy Shepherd. However, if Invicta cannot back up his own illusions of my opinions, I will agree with your personal opinions (non football) on Invicta Toon. ?

I wanted him gone 18 months earlier, tbh. After we finished 3rd. I wanted Shearer out then as well.

1. Feel free 2. You obviously When did I say that a new owner will spend the cash on players and not just issue bigger dividends? If you cannot prove it, I will be inclined to agree with HTL once on his opnions of you. As a matter of fact, despite Vicky's low opinion of me, I actually believe she posts sense about football most of the time.

For some people it's hard to tell whether they were conscious or not when they post.

why should we expect them to dig into their own pockets,don't see david dein doing much of that or martin edwards before selling out. truth is some fools on here just want fat fred out regardless of who or what comes in.....i've no problem with him being ousted but i want to know what any takeover leaves us with. i struggle to understand the reasoning of the anyone but fred campaign..............as i've said before "be careful what you wish for" .i remember people thinking the same about the pirate westwood but look what happened then. No one here expects Shepherd to dig into his own pocket. And Shepherd has never done so. But he keeps bragging about him backing his manager with money. The money is not his, it is ours. Disgusting how Shepherd acts as if he is the saviour and patron of the club. Which premiership club has not backed their managers? Even Doug Ellis backs their manager, when Villa's revenue is not as high as Newcastle United! not even ours but mostly the banks Aye, the money isn't ours.

Agreed that Ramage has looked much better at CB than anywhere else he's played. Agree about Taylor as well, tbh.

why should we expect them to dig into their own pockets,don't see david dein doing much of that or martin edwards before selling out. truth is some fools on here just want fat fred out regardless of who or what comes in.....i've no problem with him being ousted but i want to know what any takeover leaves us with. i struggle to understand the reasoning of the anyone but fred campaign..............as i've said before "be careful what you wish for" .i remember people thinking the same about the pirate westwood but look what happened then. Ooops! Careful Madras, you'll get lumped in with me as the most hated person on the forum for having an opinion that goes against the kids. wow someone hates you on an internet football forum.............,must be unbearable,what you gonna use,a noose or pipe to the exhaust? They'll hope whichever is the most agonising......

why should we expect them to dig into their own pockets,don't see david dein doing much of that or martin edwards before selling out. truth is some fools on here just want fat fred out regardless of who or what comes in.....i've no problem with him being ousted but i want to know what any takeover leaves us with. i struggle to understand the reasoning of the anyone but fred campaign..............as i've said before "be careful what you wish for" .i remember people thinking the same about the pirate westwood but look what happened then. Ooops! Careful Madras, you'll get lumped in with me as the most hated person on the forum for having an opinion that goes against the kids.