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Beren:

Daily mirror are one of the tabloids reportedly informed they are no longer welcome at Anfield after the headline 'Suarez the racist' https://twitter.com/#!/FLOOSIESHEENA/status/150168837369769984

Point deduction is such a big step and kind of a taboo for things that require a ruling (unlike administration guidelines or when Boro just didn't turn up for a game). I feel it's sadly very unlikely. Hopefully the fact that the circumstances here are unique and unprecedented and given how heavily manager and players have all gotten involved the League will have the balls to do what's right.

For sure, was including him. He's been the biggest embarrassment of them all. The guy is such a deluded prick it's unbearable.

Don't see how they can justifiably not do that now given how the playing staff has become so actively involved.

If you were trying to parody Liverpool fans, you couldn't do better than that. Amazing.

Then your opinion is the same as most. The vast majority just want him in the team because no one is justifiably keeping him out. The whole "OMGZ AMAZINS WORLD BEATER" is in your head.

Depends what players you have to play it. Obviously having two wingers that bring virtually nothing offensively is not going to help it work.

Caught a bit of stuff on the radio earlier and they all seemed convinced Beckham to PSG is pretty much done and that Leonardo made it happen by promising Ancelotti would be in charge.

I see. They're saying that if the game is to be completed it would be without the keeper then. Just that he isn't to face any further charges/suspensions.

I don't see that as being the case at all given how unique this situation is. The Dutch FA have pretty much said the referee's reaction was a little too hasty by overturning the red.

Wasn't there something like 30-35 minutes played? Can't find a video any more, they're all gone. Edit: Yes, 36th minute it happened. Most logical and fairest solution could be to just play the remainder of the match at later date, and in an empty ground.

AVB just now on SSN about WHL: "The crowd gets behind the team and creates total empathy"

How much more work does he need to do to deserve a chance to start and play more regularly in the team?

If you feel it makes no sense how everyone involved seems like a total moron, then you've got it spot on.

Fucking hell. There isn't an ounce of logic or humility from anyone involved in this. Shameful.

Or... We make him what he is!

Seemed like a very generous free kick too. He did what he does so often on the wing. Mince around with the ball, pass up on a chance to give it to someone in a good position over and over until he's stuck in a crowd.

Add to that he showed very little common sense and compassion in the way he handled sending him off. He figuratively kicked him when he was down.

You see that in games already as it is without the mentalists running on. A player will haul himself at another, the guy being attacked just shoves back and both get sent off. It's retarded.

Dalglish has been particularly embarrassing with close to 100% of what he's come out with this season. Senile tosser.

I'm sure he could find more than enough in the rules to back the red card up. But the way he handled it was obscene. Didn't even try to talk to the lad who just had his personal safety at risk, just waited with his card in his hand. Too many refs are just dumb jobsworths. Good on the manager for taking everyone off. Agreed there.

We were saying that about Norwich, Swansea and tonight. Edit: think I just missed a golden opportunity to use the dead horse smiley!

Nice one ref. How to keep calm and defuse a situation.

Starting to lose faith in his ability to learn from mistakes or even see them as mistakes. The whole Raylor over Santon ordeal feels like a long time ago now after all the weird selections and subs there's been since.