madras

did i say it was ? whos fault was it that we hocked everything we had and still made losses. do you think in that situation the banks would fall over themselves to loan us more to invest ?

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ? He always semed to produce funds from somewhere. Failing that he could always sell to a clueless fat oaf who likes a gamble. thats it though...you can't go on losing money for ever, as i've said a zillion times theres nowt wrong with debt, i just dont think the banks would've been so obliging to let us do it forever. Yet Shepherd sold the club and made a handsome profit out of the deal, which just backs up the view that Ashley is a financial dimwit as far as football is concerned. Not just that, he's a c*** for wasting money on daft bets while refusing to invest crucial funds on the squad when it would have kept us up. so basically both left us in the s****. ashleys lost financially and fred gained finacially.....both left us in the clarts. I'd rather be in the Premiership clarts though. i don't think we'd be there...alardyce as manager, no money to spend and the banks circling.. fred set the boat hurtling towards the rocks...ashley came in and kept the same course. But we’ll never know if you were right or wrong. Why can’t you judge Ashley on what has actually happened, instead of what might have happened? one post above man. following that premise can we say mckeag and forbes et al would have eventually took the gamble and we'd have made the prem anyway.......no we can't as we'd never know. the best we can do is look at what was happening and look at the financial mess fred had us in....granted as i've posted above, ashley has f***ed up to. that doesn't mean we were headed in the right direction with fred. we were heasded here both ways,ashley could have done something about it, fred got us to the position where there was little he cou;ld have done. Are you saying relegation was unavoidable? not unavoidable, it wasn't unavoidable at the start of last season either. shit it wasn't unavoidable in january.

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ? He always semed to produce funds from somewhere. Failing that he could always sell to a clueless fat oaf who likes a gamble. thats it though...you can't go on losing money for ever, as i've said a zillion times theres nowt wrong with debt, i just dont think the banks would've been so obliging to let us do it forever. Yet Shepherd sold the club and made a handsome profit out of the deal, which just backs up the view that Ashley is a financial dimwit as far as football is concerned. Not just that, he's a c*** for wasting money on daft bets while refusing to invest crucial funds on the squad when it would have kept us up. so basically both left us in the s****. ashleys lost financially and fred gained finacially.....both left us in the clarts. I'd rather be in the Premiership clarts though. i don't think we'd be there...alardyce as manager, no money to spend and the banks circling.. fred set the boat hurtling towards the rocks...ashley came in and kept the same course. But we’ll never know if you were right or wrong. Why can’t you judge Ashley on what has actually happened, instead of what might have happened? one post above man. following that premise can we say mckeag and forbes et al would have eventually took the gamble and we'd have made the prem anyway.......no we can't as we'd never know. the best we can do is look at what was happening and look at the financial mess fred had us in....granted as i've posted above, ashley has fucked up to. that doesn't mean we were headed in the right direction with fred. we were heasded here both ways,ashley could have done something about it, fred got us to the position where there was little he cou;ld have done.

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ? He always semed to produce funds from somewhere. Failing that he could always sell to a clueless fat oaf who likes a gamble. thats it though...you can't go on losing money for ever, as i've said a zillion times theres nowt wrong with debt, i just dont think the banks would've been so obliging to let us do it forever. Yet Shepherd sold the club and made a handsome profit out of the deal, which just backs up the view that Ashley is a financial dimwit as far as football is concerned. Not just that, he's a c*** for wasting money on daft bets while refusing to invest crucial funds on the squad when it would have kept us up. so basically both left us in the s****. ashleys lost financially and fred gained finacially.....both left us in the clarts. I'd rather be in the Premiership clarts though. i don't think we'd be there...alardyce as manager, no money to spend and the banks circling.. fred set the boat hurtling towards the rocks...ashley came in and kept the same course. The point is, Ashley had plenty of time, money and opportunity to protect his investment once he had got rid of Shepherd. If he failed to do that who's fault is that? he did. i've said that aswell.

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ? He always semed to produce funds from somewhere. Failing that he could always sell to a clueless fat oaf who likes a gamble. thats it though...you can't go on losing money for ever, as i've said a zillion times theres nowt wrong with debt, i just dont think the banks would've been so obliging to let us do it forever. Yet Shepherd sold the club and made a handsome profit out of the deal, which just backs up the view that Ashley is a financial dimwit as far as football is concerned. Not just that, he's a c*** for wasting money on daft bets while refusing to invest crucial funds on the squad when it would have kept us up. so basically both left us in the s****. ashleys lost financially and fred gained finacially.....both left us in the clarts. I'd rather be in the Premiership clarts though. i don't think we'd be there...alardyce as manager, no money to spend and the banks circling.. fred set the boat hurtling towards the rocks...ashley came in and kept the same course.

you see, a week or so a go, i'd have yeah yeah whatever'd it on here but newsnow'd and google news'd it for a bit....just in case like. now i just can't be arsed.

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ? He always semed to produce funds from somewhere. Failing that he could always sell to a clueless fat oaf who likes a gamble. thats it though...you can't go on losing money for ever, as i've said a zillion times theres nowt wrong with debt, i just dont think the banks would've been so obliging to let us do it forever. Yet Shepherd sold the club and made a handsome profit out of the deal, which just backs up the view that Ashley is a financial dimwit as far as football is concerned. Not just that, he's a c*** for wasting money on daft bets while refusing to invest crucial funds on the squad when it would have kept us up. so basically both left us in the shite. ashleys lost financially and fred gained finacially.....both left us in the clarts.

Who are bwin? austrian based online gambling company who sponsor real madrid. http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/sundaysun//tm_headline=austrian-firm-bwin-makes-toon-takeover-enquiry%26method=full%26objectid=24113310%26siteid=72703-name_page.html AUSTRIAN-based online gaming company Bwin are understood to have made enquiries about the purchase of Newcastle United. The public limited company, who are also major sponsors of La Liga giants Real Madrid, are spearheaded by gaming tycoons Manfred Bodner and Norbert Teufelberger. Bwin also have links globally throughout the world of sport, with Serie A side AC Milan also in their stable. The company, who were formed in 1999, are believed to be putting together a package to meet Newcastle owner Mike Ashley’s £100m asking price. The Chronicle understands that Bwin were at one stage earmarked by the current regime as sponsors of the Magpies next season when their deal with Northern Rock runs out. Story continues Continue story ADVERTISEMENT Managing director Derek Llambias has solid links within the gaming industry due to his involvement with swanky London casino 50 St James in the capital and is understood to have been in contact with Bwin. However, it is no surprise to see Bwin linked with a bid to the purchase of United, with their brand making huge strides in recent years. Not only have they secured major sponsorship deals with Real and Milan, but they also sponsor the Portuguese League. One of the bi-products of Bwin, PokerRoom.tv is advertised on US TV networks including ABC. A Bwin official told the Chronicle: "As a rule we do not comment on rumour or speculation." However, a source close to the company said: "It’s no surprise that Manfred or Norbert have been linked with this. "If they were spotted in Newcastle it’s not a big deal, because they could be there one day and on the other side of the world the next. "Their links to global sport are there for all to see." Llambias is expected to steer clear of the Magpies’ first friendly of the summer on Saturday as he focuses on the sale of the club. Toon tycoon Mike Ashley is also not expected to be present in Dublin, where the black-and- whites will be represented at boardroom level by football secretary Lee Charnley. As well as interest from Bwin, United are understood to be working with the Malaysian consortium who visited Tyneside for a second time this week. Ashley’s PR man told the Chronicle today: "It has been well documented that bids of £100m have gone in and that we are still in the hands of lawyers. "There continues to be interest in the sale of the club. "And Keith Harris at Seymour Pierce is working very hard to go through the process of selling the club." Fans cruelly had their hopes raised in the last 24 hours after an internet hoax got out of control last night. It was claimed that Hong Kong-based investors were ready to bring in Gianluca Vialli as director of football and Alan Shearer as boss, along with a string of other exciting incentives. However, this has turned out to be a complete wind- up which was first generated in cyberspace on Saturday night. That did not stop some national newspapers falling for the trick although club sources confirmed today that there is no truth in the claims whatsoever.

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ? He always semed to produce funds from somewhere. Failing that he could always sell to a clueless fat oaf who likes a gamble. thats it though...you can't go on losing money for ever, as i've said a zillion times theres nowt wrong with debt, i just dont think the banks would've been so obliging to let us do it forever.

check the betting thread. i've even splashed out. (i'm not cynical....i'm bullshit free and very honest)

Wrong from the start. There's 162 pages. 400 pages before takoever....get typing. (not you dave....we know your fingers never leave the keyboard)

anyone think theres any truth in the bwin bid ?

the auditors probably wouldn't have signed the accounts off.

ashley knows the club has to stay alive for him to get anything back.

There was merit in Ashley trying to put the club on a stable footing, obviously Shepherd's money was blown by Souness and it put the club in a bad position, but at least we were in the Premier. Ashley's blunders over Keegan, his stupid cheap option managerial oppointments and worst of all his failure to protect the club's Premiership future by investing in the squad backfired spectacularly. Shepherd wuld have acted far more decisively in the market in those crucial transfer windows and it would have kept us up. So yes, in comparison to Ashley he's a financial genius. what would shepherd have acted with ?

whats does everyone think of the rest of stupeedos post ?

He is apparently very confident that he will takeover. Well I wish he'd f***ing hurry up. the thing is fred is always very confident.......confident with abandon at times.

malaysians obviously stole that set up form the hong kong groups plans.

just put £70 on us to win the championship at just over 5/1. takeover permitting,plenty of time to lay out if necessary

there isn't a newcastle manager market on betfair

vialli now down to 3/1. anywhere running this market so i can lay it ?

why ? anything that shows the press up for what they are has to be good in the long run. especially as it was done so simply.

Bastards. I would have went to that. so would i. so we now have both games in sheffield being bastard awful to get to on public transport.

get in...i can go trick or treating.

be interesting to see him defend himself on that blackburn forum.