madras

it will be enough to cover those things.......... but what is going to be used to pay the wages we have to pay and other expenses that we haven't been able to pay without borrowing for a few years ? we have to get our heads away from the idea that whatever comes in through transfers we can spend on transfers while we still have a fucking ridiulous wage bill. the only way we can spend like that is if any new owner has the cash/desire to cover any the shortfall.

someone needed to say it. i'd hoped it would be shearer. good on you steve,lets hope it sets things rolling.

but then if he was still registered as ours he wouldn't be registered for man utd at the same time. They may have had to pay him up until the date the registration changed hands then. which was 2nd or 3rd of july wasn't it ?

but then if he was still registered as ours he wouldn't be registered for man utd at the same time.

is that the Wikipedia rule or something? Doesn`t explain how some other players have got wiki pages and not played for the 1st team(?) diego swarfega had a page iirc.

probably the best way would be for shearer to break ranks. go public via a press conference to say he wants the job but as ech dasy passes next season becomes harder,maybe flanked by robson,moncur to say get it sorted and to ask ashley via the press what is going on.

Total bullshit really. If 15,000 fans were to take to the pitch, who exactly is going to nick them and where will they take them? Probably be more a case of starting to arrest some people at random hoping people start going "Erm, don't want to be the next person nicked and banned" and disperse. Once some people start leaving, the numbers start going down, the chance you're going to be one of the ones nicked increases, more people start leaving. Or just filming people's faces for later banning orders. That's if you get 15,000 people on the pitch at once, presumably you'd need a few people to start off and give people the confidence to join in. If those first 10 or so get swiftly nicked then others are unlikely to follow. They can’t arrest people at random, well not without leaving themselves open to claims of victimisation. Not that it matters, it was a throw away suggestion. My point was really about whether we carry on waiting for Ashley to do what ever it is he‘s doing, or if we should try and influence events. Some think we’re powerless, but there’s tens of thousands of us and were not. Correct it would be thrown out of court if they take one approach with a small group. What "Some other people did it as well but the police weren't able to arrest them" is now a valid reason for getting a case thrown out of court? Do you think the police are completely helpless if more people commit a crime at one time than they have officers to cuff them? Oh, well, we've caught you breaking into this house but your mate ran away and we don't want to victimise you. On you go. Stewards and police targeting people at random when a large group of people are doing the same thing is exactly what was happening last season with the standing in level seven. This much is true. However, everyone would be on CCTV so the police would still be obliged to catch all the criminals. We couldn’t catch them in the act so we're not going to bother isn’t a valid reason for turning a blind eye. If there was a peaceful sit in common sense would probably prevail. It wouldn’t be in the public interest to prosecute 15,000 people for sitting on a football pitch. But we’ll never know because it’ll never happen. It's a sad indictment of our society that something as inane as sitting on football pitch without permission can be a crime. Yet one man can s*** all over a football club and it’s supporters with impunity. I wonder who owns the pitch? The stadium belongs to the club, but the land it’s built on is leased by the council. it's a sad indictment of our society that when there is so much seriously wrong with our world you are wanting to protest so vehemently about a football club. what protests have you done about the lack of funding into cancer research or the plight of social services in regards to the care of children.

£25 mill and he's theirs.

i always liked villa. lots of variety in architecture and styles in the ground aswell. it's not in bloody london aswell which is a huge bonus.

Well in your case you could threaten to stop licking his balls. Put this in bablefish and it came back as "Uuuh, I dunno I hadn't thought of that." Protest and get him to give into out demands! (Uh, what are our demands?) Stop licking Ashley's arse!!! PROTEST!! (Protest how?) Fine, do NOTHING then! Let the club drop the the confrence!!! Are you sure it wasn’t Google translate. As I said, it’d refocus attention on the situation in the media. We’ve become so used to Ashley and his crap it’s becoming acceptable. The whole issue is being (or not being) resolved on Ashley’s terms. In footballing terms, we’re letting Ashley dictate the tempo of the game. Ashley will dictate the terms no matter what though. It doesn't matter what we do, we will sell when he is ready to sell. He really couldn't give a s**** about Newcastle United and you are deluding yourself if you think he does. Invading the pitch will give the media more ammunition to call the supporters "deluded fools" and will make not a jot of difference to Ashley. He will if we let him. Only the shock jocks are still peddling the deluded fools line, the rest of the media are on the side of the supporters and they are our tool for cranking the pressure up. Ashley doesn’t care about NUFC, but his skin isn’t infinitely thick. I’ll ask you the same question Madras avoided answering. How far does the club have to fall before you would be prepared to actually do something about it? what are you on about ?. i'm prepared to do something at any stage. i'd do something now. i'd have done something last season. i'd have done something at the appointmant of sounes if someone could come up with something i thought would actually have an effect. which i don't think a pitch protest would. that is doing something for doing somethings sake....".hey look at me....it's pointless but i'm doing something" OK then. When we arrive at the Rubicon (if we haven’t already) what are you going to do? If sitting on the pitch is pointless egotism, what would be you’re master plan for saving the club from the evil clutches of lord Ashley? as i've already stated i think a boycott of the leeds game for starters would be better than your plan and a damn sight more likely to get others to join in......still dont think ashley would give a s*** though. right now i doubt theres anything we can do. would you be prepared to lose out on maybe 10mill cos someone had a sit in protest.... i wouldn't give a toss. if anything it would probably make me more spiteful. This is true, but it wouldn’t have as much impact. I’d happily go with boycotting the Leeds game. It might not be a killer blow, but it would weaken Ashley’s position. I’d like to see NUSC stop sitting on the fence and organise it as well, but that’ll never happen. The current rules of the game are being set by Ashley. He acts then supporters respond, once they’ve recovered from the shock, by which time another promise of imminent improvement has been released. Break the cycle and we might finally arrive at the end game. not when big money is concerned. like i said. if i was him i wouldn;t give a toss about any sort of protest. the thing is dragging on as he feels he can get a better price. if we put the club in a position where buyers offer less it will take longer and we will attract even more fly-by-nights.

Well in your case you could threaten to stop licking his balls. Put this in bablefish and it came back as "Uuuh, I dunno I hadn't thought of that." Protest and get him to give into out demands! (Uh, what are our demands?) Stop licking Ashley's arse!!! PROTEST!! (Protest how?) Fine, do NOTHING then! Let the club drop the the confrence!!! Are you sure it wasn’t Google translate. As I said, it’d refocus attention on the situation in the media. We’ve become so used to Ashley and his crap it’s becoming acceptable. The whole issue is being (or not being) resolved on Ashley’s terms. In footballing terms, we’re letting Ashley dictate the tempo of the game. Ashley will dictate the terms no matter what though. It doesn't matter what we do, we will sell when he is ready to sell. He really couldn't give a s**** about Newcastle United and you are deluding yourself if you think he does. Invading the pitch will give the media more ammunition to call the supporters "deluded fools" and will make not a jot of difference to Ashley. He will if we let him. Only the shock jocks are still peddling the deluded fools line, the rest of the media are on the side of the supporters and they are our tool for cranking the pressure up. Ashley doesn’t care about NUFC, but his skin isn’t infinitely thick. I’ll ask you the same question Madras avoided answering. How far does the club have to fall before you would be prepared to actually do something about it? what are you on about ?. i'm prepared to do something at any stage. i'd do something now. i'd have done something last season. i'd have done something at the appointmant of sounes if someone could come up with something i thought would actually have an effect. which i don't think a pitch protest would. that is doing something for doing somethings sake....".hey look at me....it's pointless but i'm doing something" OK then. When we arrive at the Rubicon (if we haven’t already) what are you going to do? If sitting on the pitch is pointless egotism, what would be you’re master plan for saving the club from the evil clutches of lord Ashley? as i've already stated i think a boycott of the leeds game for starters would be better than your plan and a damn sight more likely to get others to join in......still dont think ashley would give a shit though. right now i doubt theres anything we can do. would you be prepared to lose out on maybe 10mill cos someone had a sit in protest.... i wouldn't give a toss. if anything it would probably make me more spiteful.

Well in your case you could threaten to stop licking his balls. Put this in bablefish and it came back as "Uuuh, I dunno I hadn't thought of that." Protest and get him to give into out demands! (Uh, what are our demands?) Stop licking Ashley's arse!!! PROTEST!! (Protest how?) Fine, do NOTHING then! Let the club drop the the confrence!!! Are you sure it wasn’t Google translate. As I said, it’d refocus attention on the situation in the media. We’ve become so used to Ashley and his crap it’s becoming acceptable. The whole issue is being (or not being) resolved on Ashley’s terms. In footballing terms, we’re letting Ashley dictate the tempo of the game. Ashley will dictate the terms no matter what though. It doesn't matter what we do, we will sell when he is ready to sell. He really couldn't give a s**** about Newcastle United and you are deluding yourself if you think he does. Invading the pitch will give the media more ammunition to call the supporters "deluded fools" and will make not a jot of difference to Ashley. He will if we let him. Only the shock jocks are still peddling the deluded fools line, the rest of the media are on the side of the supporters and they are our tool for cranking the pressure up. Ashley doesn’t care about NUFC, but his skin isn’t infinitely thick. I’ll ask you the same question Madras avoided answering. How far does the club have to fall before you would be prepared to actually do something about it? what are you on about ?. i'm prepared to do something at any stage. i'd do something now. i'd have done something last season. i'd have done something at the appointmant of sounes if someone could come up with something i thought would actually have an effect. which i don't think a pitch protest would. that is doing something for doing somethings sake....".hey look at me....it's pointless but i'm doing something"

the thread title. my dad used to ask me that.

i'm here in the west end of newcastle. if being positive could be measured on a line from here to melbourne (here being not positive at all,melbourne being certain of a good outcome) i'd be just outside athens eating souvlaki and drinking ouzo.

One person probably would get arrested, and like a one man boycott it’d achieve nothing. It’s strength in numbers that counts. A united front will see us through this nightmare. Just letting Ashley destroy our club can’t be an option. If sitting on the pitch is a non starter then let’s work on something that isn’t. At what point would you advocate mass protest, the day after the club ceases to exist? i've already stated what i think you could do. didn't you read it ?

go on fading star... you do it. you have a sit down protest on the pitch and find out what happens ? whats that ? you wont unless others do ? a bit sheep like wouldn't you say ?

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isn’t going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If he’s still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. It’s all very well knocking the OP, but at least they’re not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. An on-pitch sit in would be breaking the law, wouldn't it? Not sure, but you’d only be arrested if you refused to move when asked by policeman… this is the UK not China. Unfortunately trashing Sportsdirect stores and smearing s*** on Lambias car is definitely illegal. Shame that. you'd be arrested and possibly facing a ground exclusion order for encroaching onto the pitch regardless of wether a policeman asks you to move or not. picket the leeds game. it's only a friendly. the players don't need any support for it. No, the application of this law is all relative. A pitch invasion after promotion never results in arrests. It’s grey area really, what’s the score on refusing to leave your seat after the game? A total boycott of all pre season home games would be a start, but it would need organising. Now NUSC have secured trust status perhaps they might want to turn their attentions to the here and now. a pitch invasion in protest would result in arrests. So why aren’t home supporters arrested for invading the pitch after securing promotion? because the intent is different. tell you what. at the leeds game. once the whistle goes,run on the pitch and see what happens. That’d be right, let somebody else take a stand while you reap the benefits eh? Obviously you’re an expert on the law, so please explain how the intent is different, and how this changes the application of the law? when did i say i was an expert. http://www.motors-chelmsford.co.uk/tn/news.cfm?id=16883 You’re like stuck records Madras, constantly taking up a position then denying it later. Hiding behind word games instead of having any conviction. wtf are you on about. i said you can can get arrested for going on the pitch,espec ially so if its a protest. i'm no expert on politics or other stuff but i'll stick my two penneth in...as do you.

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isn’t going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If he’s still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. It’s all very well knocking the OP, but at least they’re not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. You don't even know what's going on behind the scenes, how is causing him grief going to help? As it stands, despite the crap written in the papers, he might actually want a quick sale as well. Everyone acting like tits isn't going to help that. Howay the situation is obvious. Ashley is pissing everybody about in the hope of squeezing a higher price than the current bids. It’s that or Keith and Derrick have been feeding us s*** for the last two months. The way things are going it’ll be relegation again this season, if the club survives that long. We have to do something. And what the **** is sitting in the middle of the pitch going to do to help? I bet Ashley s***s himself when he sees a bunch of teenagers sitting on the middle of the pitch. It makes good TV, and like all wars this one has to be fought via the media. At the end of the day it’s a choice between doing something or being s*** on for the foreseeable future. Any protest won't make a difference so ultimately the choice is between doing nothing and looking like a ****. Collectively we have the power to force Ashley’s hand, but never will while people like you insist on rolling over and asking Mike to tickle you’re tummy. No, we don't have the power to force his hand. You sound like a 13 year old. Spoken like a sheep. Baaaaaaaa so we should just follow what you want.....either way....baaaaaa.

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isn’t going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If he’s still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. It’s all very well knocking the OP, but at least they’re not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. An on-pitch sit in would be breaking the law, wouldn't it? Not sure, but you’d only be arrested if you refused to move when asked by policeman… this is the UK not China. Unfortunately trashing Sportsdirect stores and smearing s*** on Lambias car is definitely illegal. Shame that. you'd be arrested and possibly facing a ground exclusion order for encroaching onto the pitch regardless of wether a policeman asks you to move or not. picket the leeds game. it's only a friendly. the players don't need any support for it. No, the application of this law is all relative. A pitch invasion after promotion never results in arrests. It’s grey area really, what’s the score on refusing to leave your seat after the game? A total boycott of all pre season home games would be a start, but it would need organising. Now NUSC have secured trust status perhaps they might want to turn their attentions to the here and now. a pitch invasion in protest would result in arrests. So why aren’t home supporters arrested for invading the pitch after securing promotion? because the intent is different. tell you what. at the leeds game. once the whistle goes,run on the pitch and see what happens. That’d be right, let somebody else take a stand while you reap the benefits eh? Obviously you’re an expert on the law, so please explain how the intent is different, and how this changes the application of the law? when did i say i was an expert. http://www.motors-chelmsford.co.uk/tn/news.cfm?id=16883

How long do you think it'll be before someone comes on and posts one of those texts? probably decky or yorkie

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isn’t going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If he’s still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. It’s all very well knocking the OP, but at least they’re not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. An on-pitch sit in would be breaking the law, wouldn't it? Not sure, but you’d only be arrested if you refused to move when asked by policeman… this is the UK not China. Unfortunately trashing Sportsdirect stores and smearing s*** on Lambias car is definitely illegal. Shame that. you'd be arrested and possibly facing a ground exclusion order for encroaching onto the pitch regardless of wether a policeman asks you to move or not. picket the leeds game. it's only a friendly. the players don't need any support for it. No, the application of this law is all relative. A pitch invasion after promotion never results in arrests. It’s grey area really, what’s the score on refusing to leave your seat after the game? A total boycott of all pre season home games would be a start, but it would need organising. Now NUSC have secured trust status perhaps they might want to turn their attentions to the here and now. a pitch invasion in protest would result in arrests. So why aren’t home supporters arrested for invading the pitch after securing promotion? because the intent is different. tell you what. at the leeds game. once the whistle goes,run on the pitch and see what happens.

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isn’t going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If he’s still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. It’s all very well knocking the OP, but at least they’re not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. An on-pitch sit in would be breaking the law, wouldn't it? Not sure, but you’d only be arrested if you refused to move when asked by policeman… this is the UK not China. Unfortunately trashing Sportsdirect stores and smearing s*** on Lambias car is definitely illegal. Shame that. you'd be arrested and possibly facing a ground exclusion order for encroaching onto the pitch regardless of wether a policeman asks you to move or not. picket the leeds game. it's only a friendly. the players don't need any support for it. No, the application of this law is all relative. A pitch invasion after promotion never results in arrests. It’s grey area really, what’s the score on refusing to leave your seat after the game? A total boycott of all pre season home games would be a start, but it would need organising. Now NUSC have secured trust status perhaps they might want to turn their attentions to the here and now. a pitch invasion in protest would result in arrests.

Beye's quotes just after relegation ^ are eerily similar to those just before he left Marseille: to be fair though he wasn't wanting to be away from marseilles. they received an offer and accepted it. he didn't agitate fro a move.

Something far more robust is required, two blokes with a banner isn’t going to encourage Ashley to get on with it. If he’s still in charge when we play Leeds an on-pitch sit in would be a good start. It’s all very well knocking the OP, but at least they’re not content to sit around letting Ashley take the piss. NUFC is or club, and the time to reclaim it is long overdue. Causing Ashley as much grief as possible without breaking the law was the way forward nine months ago, and it remains the way forward now. An on-pitch sit in would be breaking the law, wouldn't it? Not sure, but you’d only be arrested if you refused to move when asked by policeman… this is the UK not China. Unfortunately trashing Sportsdirect stores and smearing s*** on Lambias car is definitely illegal. Shame that. you'd be arrested and possibly facing a ground exclusion order for encroaching onto the pitch regardless of wether a policeman asks you to move or not. picket the leeds game. it's only a friendly. the players don't need any support for it.

What a w*****. oh to the contrary. if he werent already our owner mnay would say "he's the guy for us" .....renegade, two fingers up at the ruling group,goes against opinion.