madras

for which team does the fellow play ? in which position on the field of association football does the gentleman play ? Cheers mate. no probs now pont that gun away from me

for which team does the fellow play ? in which position on the field of association football does the gentleman play ?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:rS1S4BWPm9BwkM:http://music.snowboard-revolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/flaming-lips-two.jpg donadoni http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:YVMMIpkVfACJZM:http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/SPORT/football/07/13/italy.coach/story.donadoni.gi.jpg wayne coyne of the flaming lips.

stuart hall should be commentating.

See above, companies with big turnovers never go bust or get into financial difficulty apparently. and Newcastle in 1991 had a big turnover did they mackems.gif They couldn't even sell shares to the value of 1.25m quid, a fact which thickmick knows only too well. :idiot2 I was quoting you mate, talking about us never going bust now mackems.gif no, you were quoting Mort when he said we were going bust, but I;m saying he was talking bollocks and was just point scoring with supporters However, we were most definitely going bust in 1991. mort said we were on the way to going bust 2007 hall said we were on the way to going bust 1991 probably both playing the same scare game

5-4 to italy with each goal celebrated by naked supermodels dancing on the screen on HD ?

See above, companies with big turnovers never go bust or get into financial difficulty apparently. and Newcastle in 1991 had a big turnover did they mackems.gif They couldn't even sell shares to the value of 1.25m quid, a fact which thickmick knows only too well. :idiot2 does that really matter ? even if we'd won the league and champions league under shepherd if it comes to a point that we are going backwards and don't look like turning it round things have to change regardless of the past.

saving themselves for the russia game (bloody hope so, i took germany/italy and germany/spain final, pre tournament both at 10-1)

left hand side .....zhirkov ?

it would be a shame but we'd have to if he wasn't going to return to what he was.

this, totally and utterly any business CAN fold, but we wouldn't. Mort was talkig utter bollocks. never mentioned mort, talking from financial facts - we were on an unsustainable path...you'll never see the reality of that 'cause ashley bailed us out lots of younger lads also don't realise the position we were in in 1991. Now THAT is close to bankrputcy, and it is a million miles away from where we were a year ago. Shame I have had to keep pointing it out so often because people don't listen. This has been done before, chez given is a financial analyst and has also told you all that with the income and turnover generated by the club it was simply just not going to happen. A few others have also agreed with this. Why do you people take no notice of such things ? Mort is talking bollocks. It was just PR. The best PR is a winning team. They should get down to the job of backing the manager and getting back into the european slots at least, as quickly as possible, and not just for the financial benefits if you want to look at that before getting results on the pitch. Trouble is, those other pesky clubs - like Man City, Villa and Spurs - are our main rivals and are all looking like they actually understand how to do it. Like at Leeds? Like Liverpool ? As well as the clubs I've mentioned, and the other trophy winning clubs, but continue cherry picking if you like The trophy winning teams show you how to do it, if you think we should go down a different route, I find that pretty astonishing. But its up to you and to be honest there's not really anything else that can be said. It's been said enough times now. Watching the top players sign for the other major clubs isn't going to get anywhere, this is kids stuff. liverpool ? whom the latest details i could find had a turnover of 119.449 mill with a wagres ratio of 57.63% for 2005/6 whist ours was turnover of 82.882mill and a wages ratio of 61.6%. can you see why they can afford to carry more debt. ?.............i take it you aren't a mortgage advisor ? The simple answer to that is : http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:x_nkvbvZ3HBF7M:http://www.manutdpics.com/image/The-Treble-Trophies_1981.jpg lots of them over decades. that isn't an answer to what i asked.........liverpool can afford more debt because they have a higher turnover and more cash to finance the debt........can you understand this ? I was going to give this a miss as I've said my piece and as I know I'm right you aren't going to change my mind, but its called speculate to accumulate. We get a bigger crowd [now] than Liverpool so how do YOU think they have a bigger turnover and how do YOU think we can match and overtake them ? As a slight aside, what do you think was the reason we started to get a bigger crowd than Liverpool ? Simple fact that you and others just don't get is that NUFC have a support big enough to enable them to take the risks necessary sometimes, not exist at the level of poxy little clubs like pompey who are on a temporary high point. I understand you do it to run the old board down as your head is in the sand so far as they are concerned but thats your problem. One day the penny will drop with people like you. I'm telling you that if the club opts out of competing for the top players, then in 5 years down the line we will be further away from them than ever. If they impose restrictions on Keegan, then anything we will do while he is here will be down to him succeeding in spite of it, through knowing what he's doing, but we won't fulfill his potential. i agree but you can't just go on doing it infinitly can you. your ethos is just to keep spending till we are successful which i'm pretty sure if other clubs done it you'd say it was reckless or foolhardy (leeds on a major scale,luton recently with smaller numbers). at some point you have to stop and alter things. how liverpool got those trophies was built on foundations laid by shankly.........not a souness,roeder or allardyce. i'd rather keegan spent 20mill this summer than either of those 3 given 60mill.

this, totally and utterly any business CAN fold, but we wouldn't. Mort was talkig utter bollocks. never mentioned mort, talking from financial facts - we were on an unsustainable path...you'll never see the reality of that 'cause ashley bailed us out lots of younger lads also don't realise the position we were in in 1991. Now THAT is close to bankrputcy, and it is a million miles away from where we were a year ago. Shame I have had to keep pointing it out so often because people don't listen. This has been done before, chez given is a financial analyst and has also told you all that with the income and turnover generated by the club it was simply just not going to happen. A few others have also agreed with this. Why do you people take no notice of such things ? Mort is talking bollocks. It was just PR. The best PR is a winning team. They should get down to the job of backing the manager and getting back into the european slots at least, as quickly as possible, and not just for the financial benefits if you want to look at that before getting results on the pitch. Trouble is, those other pesky clubs - like Man City, Villa and Spurs - are our main rivals and are all looking like they actually understand how to do it. Like at Leeds? Like Liverpool ? As well as the clubs I've mentioned, and the other trophy winning clubs, but continue cherry picking if you like The trophy winning teams show you how to do it, if you think we should go down a different route, I find that pretty astonishing. But its up to you and to be honest there's not really anything else that can be said. It's been said enough times now. Watching the top players sign for the other major clubs isn't going to get anywhere, this is kids stuff. liverpool ? whom the latest details i could find had a turnover of 119.449 mill with a wagres ratio of 57.63% for 2005/6 whist ours was turnover of 82.882mill and a wages ratio of 61.6%. can you see why they can afford to carry more debt. ?.............i take it you aren't a mortgage advisor ? The simple answer to that is : http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:x_nkvbvZ3HBF7M:http://www.manutdpics.com/image/The-Treble-Trophies_1981.jpg lots of them over decades. that isn't an answer to what i asked.........liverpool can afford more debt because they have a higher turnover and more cash to finance the debt........can you understand this ?

this, totally and utterly any business CAN fold, but we wouldn't. Mort was talkig utter bollocks. never mentioned mort, talking from financial facts - we were on an unsustainable path...you'll never see the reality of that 'cause ashley bailed us out lots of younger lads also don't realise the position we were in in 1991. Now THAT is close to bankrputcy, and it is a million miles away from where we were a year ago. Shame I have had to keep pointing it out so often because people don't listen. This has been done before, chez given is a financial analyst and has also told you all that with the income and turnover generated by the club it was simply just not going to happen. A few others have also agreed with this. Why do you people take no notice of such things ? Mort is talking bollocks. It was just PR. The best PR is a winning team. They should get down to the job of backing the manager and getting back into the european slots at least, as quickly as possible, and not just for the financial benefits if you want to look at that before getting results on the pitch. Trouble is, those other pesky clubs - like Man City, Villa and Spurs - are our main rivals and are all looking like they actually understand how to do it. again, never mentioned mort and have no idea what you're referring to but that's by the by i'll side with a multi billionaire who seemingly balked at the debt and wage defecit of of the of the club he bought as an indication of the financial state, you side with a dude off the internet if you like the fact you're mentioning man city as an example of anything astounds me they are our competition, and we have to actually beat our competitors ? see liams post mate, man city will end one way and it ain't good...stevie wonder and ray charles told me that they might, so might Chelsea. They might have some success first though, then re-group. The big clubs always come back. If you would prefer to spend year after year finishing outside the elite and not even having a go, then I don't agree, thats not what I want. but do you agree that you can't just go on racking up more and more debt ?

this, totally and utterly any business CAN fold, but we wouldn't. Mort was talkig utter bollocks. never mentioned mort, talking from financial facts - we were on an unsustainable path...you'll never see the reality of that 'cause ashley bailed us out lots of younger lads also don't realise the position we were in in 1991. Now THAT is close to bankrputcy, and it is a million miles away from where we were a year ago. Shame I have had to keep pointing it out so often because people don't listen. This has been done before, chez given is a financial analyst and has also told you all that with the income and turnover generated by the club it was simply just not going to happen. A few others have also agreed with this. Why do you people take no notice of such things ? Mort is talking bollocks. It was just PR. The best PR is a winning team. They should get down to the job of backing the manager and getting back into the european slots at least, as quickly as possible, and not just for the financial benefits if you want to look at that before getting results on the pitch. Trouble is, those other pesky clubs - like Man City, Villa and Spurs - are our main rivals and are all looking like they actually understand how to do it. Like at Leeds? Like Liverpool ? As well as the clubs I've mentioned, and the other trophy winning clubs, but continue cherry picking if you like The trophy winning teams show you how to do it, if you think we should go down a different route, I find that pretty astonishing. But its up to you and to be honest there's not really anything else that can be said. It's been said enough times now. Watching the top players sign for the other major clubs isn't going to get anywhere, this is kids stuff. liverpool ? whom the latest details i could find had a turnover of 119.449 mill with a wagres ratio of 57.63% for 2005/6 whist ours was turnover of 82.882mill and a wages ratio of 61.6%. can you see why they can afford to carry more debt. ?.............i take it you aren't a mortgage advisor ?

this, totally and utterly any business CAN fold, but we wouldn't. Mort was talkig utter bollocks. never mentioned mort, talking from financial facts - we were on an unsustainable path...you'll never see the reality of that 'cause ashley bailed us out lots of younger lads also don't realise the position we were in in 1991. Now THAT is close to bankrputcy, and it is a million miles away from where we were a year ago. Shame I have had to keep pointing it out so often because people don't listen. This has been done before, chez given is a financial analyst and has also told you all that with the income and turnover generated by the club it was simply just not going to happen. A few others have also agreed with this. Why do you people take no notice of such things ? Mort is talking bollocks. It was just PR. The best PR is a winning team. They should get down to the job of backing the manager and getting back into the european slots at least, as quickly as possible, and not just for the financial benefits if you want to look at that before getting results on the pitch. Trouble is, those other pesky clubs - like Man City, Villa and Spurs - are our main rivals and are all looking like they actually understand how to do it. again, never mentioned mort and have no idea what you're referring to but that's by the by i'll side with a multi billionaire who seemingly balked at the debt and wage defecit of of the of the club he bought as an indication of the financial state, you side with a dude off the internet if you like the fact you're mentioning man city as an example of anything astounds me they are our competition, and we have to actually beat our competitors ? by appointing souness,roeder and allardyce

this, totally and utterly any business CAN fold, but we wouldn't. Mort was talkig utter bollocks. never mentioned mort, talking from financial facts - we were on an unsustainable path...you'll never see the reality of that 'cause ashley bailed us out lots of younger lads also don't realise the position we were in in 1991. Now THAT is close to bankrputcy, and it is a million miles away from where we were a year ago. Shame I have had to keep pointing it out so often because people don't listen. This has been done before, chez given is a financial analyst and has also told you all that with the income and turnover generated by the club it was simply just not going to happen. A few others have also agreed with this. Why do you people take no notice of such things ? Mort is talking bollocks. It was just PR. The best PR is a winning team. They should get down to the job of backing the manager and getting back into the european slots at least, as quickly as possible, and not just for the financial benefits if you want to look at that before getting results on the pitch. Trouble is, those other pesky clubs - like Man City, Villa and Spurs - are our main rivals and are all looking like they actually understand how to do it. after souness and roeder and appointing allardyce,mounting debts......could you see things improving ?

impeccable source ?

because as yet we have no idea who we are after or who we have bid for. all we have is media speculation which we know is more often than not "wide of the mark" ?

or indeed to what extent he CAN adapt.

juve ?

lennons already at spurs so he's already a demi-god

How many guesses would you like? 5

I expect NE5 to post with the same response, like he does with about 99% of people trying to challenge his opinion. well it was meant ironically

mackems.gif

when was the last time man utd bought an outfield player that age ? Hargreaves. and when was the last time the clubs that buy "trophy players" that win the trophies have a debt that only a s*** board has to service ? Answer = they all have. Still, I'm sure that supporting a club that reports a profit every year will fill the ground with supporters and will enable us all to wear our shirts with pride rather than be laughed at for playing in the San Siro and other major european grounds again......why can they service larger debt than us ? the same rerason some can afford larger mortgages (debt) than others....income ! 1.5bn quid between them proves that having a debt doesn't stop you winning trophies or you are a badly run club. End of story. And thats before Liverpool begin to finance the building of a new stadium, I mean , I'm sure they should look at us and see us as the role model as to how it should be done and learn from our mistakes did i say any debt stops you winning trophies ? having debt you cant afford fucks you though. who couldn;t afford it, with 52000 crowds and one of the biggest incomes in the country ? What a load of s****. biggest incomes but no operating profits...........near 70% on players wages....you dont see aproblem ? Well, its like this. If the club buy 2nd rate players, they will get 2nd rate crowds again. But I'll let you think about that and the repercussions of it in your own time. but we werent getting 2nd rate crowds...we were getting sell outs and still racking up debts year on year and the wages ratio went up similarly