madras

Eh? Who? heskey,or even kevin davies, the style of players you're talking about.

If you're looking for the best example of "over-rated", it's right there. Good argument, you've got me. Buffon's vastly over-rated tbh. I would imagine that most people who claim he's the best in the world have seen him play all of twice. How often have you watched him out of interest? It wasn't an argument. Buffon has been around for donkeys years so naturally i have seen him many a time. He's commanding, has great reflexes, he's great on crosses, never seems to make a blunder... and basically has no apparent weakness. I'd like to hear which part of his game you think is overrated tbh because your opinion stumps me. The best goalkeeper i've ever seen without a doubt. The "TV saves" fool a lot of people to be honest. In my opinion he punches and parries far far too often, where a simple catch (although not looking as good) would make more sense. Don't get me wrong, I do think he's a class keeper, but I've spoken to numerous people who claim he's the best in the world, and then admit that they've hardly seen him. I think he was actually a better keeper at Parma. He is better than Given though, as he commands his box much better. I think both Cech and Reina are better keepers though. People argue that you can't say Cech is the best, because of the defence which plays in front of him. Can the same not be said about a £34m keeper in a Juve/Italy team? Best keeper I've ever seen is Schmeichel. Nobody else comes close. what does "commands his box "actually mean ? Basically organising the defence, and knowing when to come for crosses and when to stay on his line. Missed the fact that Cech's distribution is better too again that could go down to what given has had to work with.

no it works against continental defences who aren't used to a heskey type player. has he turned in many performances in the prem over the last 5 years that made you think you'd like to sign him ?

If you're looking for the best example of "over-rated", it's right there. Good argument, you've got me. Buffon's vastly over-rated tbh. I would imagine that most people who claim he's the best in the world have seen him play all of twice. How often have you watched him out of interest? It wasn't an argument. Buffon has been around for donkeys years so naturally i have seen him many a time. He's commanding, has great reflexes, he's great on crosses, never seems to make a blunder... and basically has no apparent weakness. I'd like to hear which part of his game you think is overrated tbh because your opinion stumps me. The best goalkeeper i've ever seen without a doubt. The "TV saves" fool a lot of people to be honest. In my opinion he punches and parries far far too often, where a simple catch (although not looking as good) would make more sense. Don't get me wrong, I do think he's a class keeper, but I've spoken to numerous people who claim he's the best in the world, and then admit that they've hardly seen him. I think he was actually a better keeper at Parma. He is better than Given though, as he commands his box much better. I think both Cech and Reina are better keepers though. People argue that you can't say Cech is the best, because of the defence which plays in front of him. Can the same not be said about a £34m keeper in a Juve/Italy team? Best keeper I've ever seen is Schmeichel. Nobody else comes close. what does "commands his box "actually mean ?

and unless guarded at all times would be mugged every week Of course they wouldn't, not in the home section anyway. People are not going to risk getting banned and losing their season ticket over a packet of f****** crisps. they will over a pint (seen it many a time)so they will over getting a few bags of crisps,handfull of mars bars and as many opal fruits as they can carry Slight difference between walking off with a pint and physically breaking into a vending machine. no,i mean fighting in the beer queue,surely a chucking out offence as would be stealing off the vending machine.

and unless guarded at all times would be mugged every week Of course they wouldn't, not in the home section anyway. People are not going to risk getting banned and losing their season ticket over a packet of f****** crisps. they will over a pint (seen it many a time)so they will over getting a few bags of crisps,handfull of mars bars and as many opal fruits as they can carry

and unless guarded at all times would be mugged every week

it's a football ground,why the hell have they got mirrors there in the first place ?

robbie keane returns to spurs training. paul robinson" but,but,but but...............robbie...what about me"

anyone think 10/11 is a generous price for us on monday ?

nufc.com has him being born in amsterdam si i guess they may register births,what with them being a civilised european country and all.

as yet,like martins or owen for that matter we havent played to his strengths,give him (them) the ball to feet and we'll see a different player.

he already hasn't got the pace everyone remembers him for (i never thought it would be possible to mix that many tenses in one sentence),but he has the shearer knack of getting in the right place,you don't need pace of foot for that.

can someone please direct me to a reputable source that says taylor is currently on £9000p/w and has turned down £25000p/w.

try to keep the lad but IF he wants too much then sell. he's a good defender with good potential but given our current squad he is by no means a starter on current form.

the beardsley ?

aye and for derby i'd play smith through the middle to get in behind the forwards with invention coming from wide. I wouldn't, 'cos in 4-4-2 I'd use Smith up front. with the current squad blah blah i've put what i think in the faye thread (i think thats where i put it)

Did SA actually say that? I thought he said Smith wasnt Dyers replacement and after we bought Smith and still had Dyer SA said if Dyer is sold he will look for a replacement. I dont understand the s*** Smith is getting on here TBH. This aint aimed at you Baggio but the general tone of a few people, Smith may not be the most gifted player but that doesnt make him a s*** player. So far i wouldnt say he's been s*** or that he's been outstanding. I thought he had a good game against Bolton but average games for the rest. I'd agree Smiths best position is up front and ideally i'd prefer him to be rotated with the other strikers and not used in the midfield unless we have too. How come Smith is getting a lot of s*** yet Viduka aint? I havent been impressed with Viduka but that doesnt mean im gonna write him off. When we agreed a deal with West Ham the first time around Allardyce came out and said that his replacement would be revealed tomorrow, the next day we signed Smith, from what I remember Allardyce said the money we got from Dyer when he did finally leave would be reinvested in the team. Smith is offering nothing, he gets stuck in in midfield but so will Faye when he plays at a fraction of the price, he's been a passenger in our last few games and he hasn't really offered us anything when we attack, as a team we have been struggling to create much and when you've spent £6 million on a player to play in midfield even though he's got few qualities to offer us then the fans are going to knock him. He's also only managed 3 goals in his last 79 games which is f****** attrocius. Get the blinkers off man. He's not being played to his strengths, nor was he at manure most of the time from what I saw of them. People who have said he's a victim of his versatility have got it spot on. I think some people just don't like him, hence stuff I've read in the past making out he's a bad lad, assuming his aggressive attitude on the field spills over into his general lifestyle when in fact off the field he's a model professional. There's a negative bias against him from a lot of people, not saying you in particular, but it's pretty obvious in a number of threads and more than a bit sad. I've got no blinkers on, I've seen from his time both here and at Man Utd that he's a s**** midfielder who offers f*** all in attack apart from plenty of graft, I'm well aware that he started out as a striker and that's his best position but that isn't much good to us while he's jumping into tackles like some sort of f****** madman in midfield is it? Btw he isn't that good as a striker either, certainly not as good as either Owen, Martins or Viduka, so what have we got? £6 million spent on a player that isn't good enough to start in attack or midfield, at the same time we've sacrificed signing a creative player with pace to accommodate him, you're right people don't like him but that's because he's an average plodder rather than them disliking him as an individual. I find it funny how you were happy to knock Parker all the time yet jump to the defence of Alan Smith, even though he's like an identical clone of him in midfield. What a laugh, mate. There is no comparison between Parker and Smith. None at all. Why are you comparing a player being used out of position with a player who was consistently used in his strongest position? His best position is up front, he's better than Viduka and should start alongside Owen. The fact the manager selects him out of position is a problem but there's nowt I can do about that. If Allardyce never comes to his senses about Smith I'll see it as an asset wasted. As for people disliking him because he's an average plodder...what a load of rubbish. i think smith is only being used wide right because with no proper left back match fit (enrique) we need to put n'zogbia there meaning the best available person to play left is milner,leaving a space on the right hence smith. playing smith up front in a 3 is something worth a try,however if he plays 4-4-2 id play him as the attacking midfielder

aye and for derby i'd play smith through the middle to get in behind the forwards with invention coming from wide.

Yep. we're both wrong,teletext has quotes about it being about the wigan players harassing the ref on 2 occasions. Glad to be right for once just don't go making a habit of it

he had a bomb you know

seriously too many to work it out (first away game 3-2 win at preston billy raff getting 2 about 1981ish) and since then some seasons of getting to more than half the aways tilll sprogs came on the scene. probably slightly more defeats than wins with a good few draws aswell.

Yep. we're both wrong,teletext has quotes about it being about the wigan players harassing the ref on 2 occasions.

it's just for having 5 players booked in one match,isn't it ?

sky chose some crackers from that week they have to show every team a minimum number of times so they get them out the way early so later in the season they can pick games that look good at the time (6 pointers)