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Do you think he doesn't? nope. i think we have a team who panic under pressure (which could probably be down to the manager) but that he sets them out time after time after taking a lead and it's backfired the same way is just silly. We did it last year, it worked much of the time then and it hasn't this year. The only thing you're on to something with is saying it's related to confidence, otherwise you're wrong. Evidence: my eyes; common sense; watching football for a number of years (apparently way less than you, which makes the things you say all the more staggering). i've already covered last year man and i will agree that many came out last year thinking we'd just held on when I though it was quite comfortable, think thats more down to mthe fans than owt else. Again I think you're wrong then. We won 19 games last year, I can go through them and tell you how many I thought were comfortable if you like but proportionately there weren't as many as you'd think for a team finishing 5th in the league. you'll say the fulhams, the wigans, norwich etc ?

Do you think he doesn't? nope. i think we have a team who panic under pressure (which could probably be down to the manager) but that he sets them out time after time after taking a lead and it's backfired the same way is just silly. We did it last year, it worked much of the time then and it hasn't this year. The only thing you're on to something with is saying it's related to confidence, otherwise you're wrong. Evidence: my eyes; common sense; watching football for a number of years (apparently way less than you, which makes the things you say all the more staggering). i've already covered last year man and i will agree that many came out last year thinking we'd just held on when I though it was quite comfortable, think thats more down to mthe fans than owt else.

My uncle (who sort of got me in to football) is from Blackburn and it's depressed him so much. For his sake, and for the history of the club, I hope to god they can start improving. f*** Venky's. Amusing, maybe, but it's truly embarrassing management of a club. Agree completely. First got into football through admiration for Shearer who at the time was a Blackburn player. Had a soft spot for them ever since, but despised them under Hughes and Allardyce. Hope they manage to get rid of the dodgy c***s in charge. Ripping the history out of the club. this will sound harsh but...... you have your club, better if its through geographic reasons but there are many other reasons, then regardless it's your club, through thick and thin (and for the majority of fans it'll be thin)and it's like a roller coaster, take the ups and the downs.

no argument with that, but for the rest it's not so much that we like to sit deep if we are leading as the oppo so will push on and we aren't well equipped to put up with it (may be the players, may be the manager, not sure which yet)

Do you think he doesn't? nope. i think we have a team who panic under pressure (which could probably be down to the manager) but that he sets them out time after time after taking a lead and it's backfired the same way is just silly.

Not really, if you take aside the cockney nonsense that some will never like him for. Its the football Ron, nothing else, the state of the football, the lack of forward play. In two years here none of us know exactly what football he wants to play, it's just a mess, a hit and hope mess. I hate to say this but just look at Liverpool, blobface will have them playing the football he wants, Pardew ? what is it we are trying to do each game, no pattern, no teamwork, no ideas most of the time. I don't want to change manager again but for christ sake in two years, can we see anything that resembles a system. Do you know what, it's depressing watching us right now, Pardew has sucked the fun out of my football, not because of the table, it's what you get to see. I mean, say we play well and muller Fulham, everyone will be shocked at the decent play, that's how bad it's got. Hoping for some decent football, not swift attacking lovely football, just some bog standard passing that looks ok, it really has got that bad. which to be fair, in the main (not including last week) we had done since the january window. He did a bit, but is that what i need to hoy myself down a well to get a wish for. Even then it's not exactly exciting, i like nice football me I like getting to 1-0 after 5 minutes and thinking "we're going to pan this lot" - this season, even 2-0 up against Wigan at home after 20 minutes, them with ten men, I was worried all the way until Bigirimana scored about them coming back into it because we play with no attacking purpose when we've got a lead. Even in that game we only matched them 50-50 in possession. Several times this season, we've taken the lead just before half time and my missus is actually annoyed about it - "now he'll just tell them to defend it, wish we hadn't bothered". Caught up in the moment, I'll always tell her she's being utterly ridiculous, then at full time I have to tell her that she was right. I don't like telling her that under any circumstances. do you think he's spent half time saying "sit back, just hold on tp it" ? Yes. on the basis that it's got such a good past record ?

Not really, if you take aside the cockney nonsense that some will never like him for. Its the football Ron, nothing else, the state of the football, the lack of forward play. In two years here none of us know exactly what football he wants to play, it's just a mess, a hit and hope mess. I hate to say this but just look at Liverpool, blobface will have them playing the football he wants, Pardew ? what is it we are trying to do each game, no pattern, no teamwork, no ideas most of the time. I don't want to change manager again but for christ sake in two years, can we see anything that resembles a system. Do you know what, it's depressing watching us right now, Pardew has sucked the fun out of my football, not because of the table, it's what you get to see. I mean, say we play well and muller Fulham, everyone will be shocked at the decent play, that's how bad it's got. Hoping for some decent football, not swift attacking lovely football, just some bog standard passing that looks ok, it really has got that bad. which to be fair, in the main (not including last week) we had done since the january window. He did a bit, but is that what i need to hoy myself down a well to get a wish for. Even then it's not exactly exciting, i like nice football me I like getting to 1-0 after 5 minutes and thinking "we're going to pan this lot" - this season, even 2-0 up against Wigan at home after 20 minutes, them with ten men, I was worried all the way until Bigirimana scored about them coming back into it because we play with no attacking purpose when we've got a lead. Even in that game we only matched them 50-50 in possession. Several times this season, we've taken the lead just before half time and my missus is actually annoyed about it - "now he'll just tell them to defend it, wish we hadn't bothered". Caught up in the moment, I'll always tell her she's being utterly ridiculous, then at full time I have to tell her that she was right. I don't like telling her that under any circumstances. do you think he's spent half time saying "sit back, just hold on tp it" ?

I was actually thinking "Did he just make that up?" You're right though, it would make sense to drum a footballing philosophy into players from start to finish. it's an argument often done, drum a philosophy in or get the best from what you have, if you have a young shearer on the books but he doesn't fit the philosophy what happens ? A good manager will adapt that young player, train him to blend into his vision. As that young un would have been playing the system that the 1st team play in the Underling teams, already learning. I can dream cant i ? i think you are pushing too much on what managers can do. Really, the one thing i would have thought (managers who use the same system most of the time i mean), would have all their teams playing the same way, so players can slot into the 1st team already knowing the shape, system, style etc. yes but sayyou have a barcelona playing style without the barcelona finance and have an andy carroll or shearer coming through the ranks. do you create whats best to get the best from them or keep on with the philosophy ?

I was actually thinking "Did he just make that up?" You're right though, it would make sense to drum a footballing philosophy into players from start to finish. it's an argument often done, drum a philosophy in or get the best from what you have, if you have a young shearer on the books but he doesn't fit the philosophy what happens ? A good manager will adapt that young player, train him to blend into his vision. As that young un would have been playing the system that the 1st team play in the Underling teams, already learning. I can dream cant i ? i think you are pushing too much on what managers can do.

you don't, you know you'd fuck it up with your personality and end up with ther anyway.

any chance MON making the poll ?

I was actually thinking "Did he just make that up?" You're right though, it would make sense to drum a footballing philosophy into players from start to finish. it's an argument often done, drum a philosophy in or get the best from what you have, if you have a young shearer on the books but he doesn't fit the philosophy what happens ?

CP40 is twitching in his sleep.........stick Keegan in there man.

Not really, if you take aside the cockney nonsense that some will never like him for. Its the football Ron, nothing else, the state of the football, the lack of forward play. In two years here none of us know exactly what football he wants to play, it's just a mess, a hit and hope mess. I hate to say this but just look at Liverpool, blobface will have them playing the football he wants, Pardew ? what is it we are trying to do each game, no pattern, no teamwork, no ideas most of the time. I don't want to change manager again but for christ sake in two years, can we see anything that resembles a system. Do you know what, it's depressing watching us right now, Pardew has sucked the fun out of my football, not because of the table, it's what you get to see. I mean, say we play well and muller Fulham, everyone will be shocked at the decent play, that's how bad it's got. Hoping for some decent football, not swift attacking lovely football, just some bog standard passing that looks ok, it really has got that bad. which to be fair, in the main (not including last week) we had done since the january window.

decision decisions....... perch right back, sissoko or anita in alongside cabaye anita left back, santon right jonas left back

Hitzfeld

had dejagah been a regular recently ? he's someone i know nowt of.

wolves away 2-0 up should have been three, hardly a case of sitting on a lead. (QPR,Blackburn were definite muggings mind) as for the home games we'll have to disagree as IMO most of our wins were deserved and weren't as scary as many think, just that we seemed to play below what we (the fans) think we can. for all they weren't great performances I struggle to remember games at home where we didn't get what we deserved and a lot of the panic came from us, the fans, when only having a one goal lead, the atmosphere was often a lot edgier than the game imo.

spooky you should mention those as along with gillingham that was my treble for the day...........damn you holloway.

your most sensible post in..............well, ever.

exactly how i see it. especially the bit about shitting it after taking the lead as i see it that we can't handle pressure as opposed to it being a tactic or plan to sit back after taking a lead. Sounds pretty far-fetched to me. as opposed to the manager saying "go a goal up and drop back 20yds as it's worked so well for us and just try and hold on for 70mins"

i have no recollection whatsoever of di canio at charlton.

pleased sidwells out, often has a good game here in that understated/keep it ticking over/ win loads of ball type way.

That's probably why then, if you've seen us a handful of times, it's difficult to judge over the whole season. Like I said, it's easy to make the mistake of looking at the table, and even some of the dreadful results, and extrapolate from that a season-long awfulness. Last season, now that was awful. I imagine one reason Lambert still gets such support is last year gave us a staggeringly depressing lesson into how unambitious, negative and miserable football can be. the few times i've saw villa this season they've been decent but very bramble-esque.