David Icke - Son of God

Lets fucking hope so.

Great post. i've been reading through this thread and seen some good stuff, some not so great (imo). This post is pretty much how I feel too. I think the one really good point you make is that he does seem to learn. Basing so much of our offense around counter attacks with Martins, now playing N'Zogbia instead of Duff, and hopefully won't slot Taylor straight back in there. I just don't think he should be permanent manager though, he can probably walk away a cult hero from Newcastle and go and get a decent job in the championship, probably even get somebody promoted. I want to avoid another Roeder. Plus I don't trust his ability in the transfer market, he's been out of the game way too long and this squad has needed some serious rebuilding for a few years now, I'd really like to see someone with European experience and a list of contacts he can rely on. http://www.magpieszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/08052008_kevin-keegan.jpg Ironically Joe has actually been scouting for teams all over the world during his time away from management. Keegan however was in the circus. I am not sure if this scouting all over the world is really true, I mean who is going to fork money out of there own pocket to scout for players for errrrrrrrr no one. I think scouting all over the world basically means he got the dodgy Arab channels in and stayed up watching Erdivise highlights until 4 in the morning.

But miss the vast, vast majority of their chances.

Great post. i've been reading through this thread and seen some good stuff, some not so great (imo). This post is pretty much how I feel too. I think the one really good point you make is that he does seem to learn. Basing so much of our offense around counter attacks with Martins, now playing N'Zogbia instead of Duff, and hopefully won't slot Taylor straight back in there. I just don't think he should be permanent manager though, he can probably walk away a cult hero from Newcastle and go and get a decent job in the championship, probably even get somebody promoted. I want to avoid another Roeder. Plus I don't trust his ability in the transfer market, he's been out of the game way too long and this squad has needed some serious rebuilding for a few years now, I'd really like to see someone with European experience and a list of contacts he can rely on. http://www.magpieszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/08052008_kevin-keegan.jpg

JFK isn't a long term solution but he needs to be applauded for what he has managed to achieve so far. We're very hard to beat, the defence looks solid, we seem to create a bit despite lacking a playmaker and going forward we don't look completely toothless up top. The fact he's been out of the game for so long means he's effectively learning on the job and tactically he's improving as he gets to know the players. He also seems to know what we need to bring in in the New Year too although whether we get said players is another thing completely as i'm skeptical he'll be allowed to wheel and deal without Wise going behind his back. Oh, and Pedro is clearly a fucking gonk. Has anyone actually said they want him here long term?

He's got no legs.

I know nothing about this bloke but i'm excited by his hairstyle. £8 million well spent based on that alone.

He's done what almost no manager before him did and sorted out the back four. Fair play to him for that.

Both are saying nothing we haven't alread assumed.

The Mail is about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard. I wouldn't worry too much.

you're not going down the "hope they fail" route I hope ? At my age now, I've seen far worse than this, and even the suggestion of it is pretty sad. Sorry but that is true and how I see it. For the record, I'll say what I've always said. The more "trophy players" the club sign ie just like the other trophy winners do, the better. If Owen DOES sign, is it a sign of a change or direction or Ashley trying to paper over the cracks and get deluded people on his side ? Do you think it would be a sign of him realising he has been wrong and is prepared to attempt to match the european qualifications of his predecessors ? What do you think ? I doubt very much that Ashley is going to spend big for a few reasons: firstly, the club is still up for sale. Secondly he hasn't got the money to compete with the top 4, only City have tbh. The other option would be to borrow money against the club and spend big like Liverpool, Manu and Villa. I don't think he was ever going to do that in the first place and definitely not now the clubs for sale. He's probably going to carry on trying to buy value players and build the squad gradually on players who won't go downhill quickly. So far as I'm aware, the vast majority of players we brought to the club by the last owners fell into that category and I can quite easily list a lot of them if you wish ? If your list is going to include players bought under Sir John Hall's time as Chairman then don't bother. If you can make a list of value players bought under Shepherd's reign as chairman then by all means go ahead as that's the period we are generally considered to have spent badly in the transfer market. there are plenty of players under the chairmanship of both, but as nobody at any time had a controlling interest in the club and neither at any time was ever in a position to run the club single handed without the other, there is no point seperating them. I understand that you want to find a way to slate Shepherd here, but sadly for you, it has little basis for the reasons I've just given. You can, in the meantime, ignore the fact that Woodgate was also a record transfer at the time, and the acid test is that Ashley is unlikely to match the Champions League and european qualifications, [which is what REALLY matters], if he ever was at all. You are obviously ignoring the fact that Milner was sold to essentially finance the transfer of Colocinni while failing to back their appointed manager while making a profit in the transfer window, something that didn't happen under the Halls and shepherd, or the Halls OR Shepherd if you are determined to try and seperate the regimes. You can defend Ashley until you are blue in the face, but the penny pinching manner in which the club has been run since he came, will never match what the club has done in the last 15 years even if you live until you are 200. To get back on topic, buying players who's value is hoped to rise, is nothing new, and you're spouting rubbish if you say or imply that it is. oh and here is your list, not including the time of Dalglish and Gullit either, which adds shay given, Nobby Solano, Andy Griffin, Domi, Pistone, Goma, Glass, Hamman, Speed and Ferguson to the list, without even thinking. http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,57178.msg1598810.html#msg1598810 Those were all players bought by managers hired and fired by Shepherd, without even mentioning players bought by Souness who blew most of the money made available by Freddie on players like Boumsong, Luque, Carr and Bowyer. In fact SBR was over-ruled on buying Miguel so we could buy Carr for £3m less. Freddie sure showed his ambition with that decision that last bit can't be true? it just can't, fucking hell It is. He also wouldn't sign Carrick and went for Butt instead.

Where's the dodgy dossier, that's waht I want to know? "The Hitzfeld Dossier" Apparently HTT over stated the brilliance of the golf courses in the region. There's hell on.

What an unmitigated farce this discussion has turned into From some people on here you'd think Andrew Gilligan had just been on Radio 4 and quoted a St. James' Park insider who says Kinnear "sexed up" the press conference.

Thats what worries me though. Plenty of fans will believe the 72 hour claim whether its true or not, and if he doesn't sign in the next 3 days, are certain sections of fans going to start giving him a hard time? I agree its good of him to tell us whats going on, but the timeframe could have been left out. Just say that we had some positive talks and he's been offered a very good contract. But those few fans are fucking idiots. This is a complete non-argument. There is nothing to be discussed. It will not effect 99.9% of fans or the press in any way.

JFK is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He says fuck all and people moan about the lack of communication from the club, he says this and people moan it's going to be counter productive. I'd much rather he talked and told us what was going on, even if he does have a track record for spouting tosh. You'd have to be an idiot to think Owen is going to decide before January so I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the "72 hour" claim.

If they faked the quotes they'd be in court. It's notoriously easy to get cash out of publications for defamation in the UK. I get the feeling that Ashley is quite happy to flap his gums to his 'pals' in the press at the minute if they give him a slightly easier ride, which they will if he's happy to be a rentaquote.

Source: The Sun.

Angela Merkel was out in the Bigg Market the other night. I saw her stumbling up from Reflex singing Blaydon Races. Fact.

Call me Scrooge but he can fuck off.

Only a matter of time before he dons a flat cap and starts drinking Brown Ale in interviews.

That'd never happen. It would be like us playing Alan Smith in midfield... ...Hang on.... http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/the_limey/09/22/bungs.music/t1_allardyce_0920.jpg

Lets be honest, it's a dark day for us. I hate Roy Keane and I love seeing him fall flat on his face but now he's walked away the Mackems might get someone decent. Loads of managers would love the backing Royston had.

Sad fuckers

How bitter? Jordan's opinion is null and void because he looks like a woman. I just hope he enjoys life in the Championship.

I'll be supporting them tonight